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Post by FundamentallySoundJones on Oct 4, 2020 17:57:06 GMT -5
only slayton i see runs a nice route and can get separation. engram dogs it, golden taint is a mouse.
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Post by allnygin on Oct 4, 2020 17:57:52 GMT -5
only slayton i see runs a nice route and can get separation. engram dogs it, golden taint is a mouse. Why did you never say that when Eli had shit to work with?
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Post by JoeyCush on Oct 4, 2020 17:57:58 GMT -5
its a bit of everything.
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Post by FundamentallySoundJones on Oct 4, 2020 17:59:20 GMT -5
only slayton i see runs a nice route and can get separation. engram dogs it, golden taint is a mouse. Why did you never say that when Eli had shit to work with? because he was a vet with a star wr most of the time , however i did say jerry failed to get him a RT
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Post by DJones19 on Oct 4, 2020 18:02:08 GMT -5
Jones seems more like a rookie this year than last. Receiver play isn't helping.
I think the system may have a lot to do with it. Jones and Shurmur seemed to really hit it off but our brilliant ownership thought needed to change that. Looked like Garrett started to add more Shurmur to the playbook this week with some success...we move the ball when Jones uses his legs.
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Post by JoeBigBlue on Oct 4, 2020 18:02:09 GMT -5
Slayton is the only NFL WR on this team....Tate is washed up and mailing it in.
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Post by FundamentallySoundJones on Oct 4, 2020 18:03:23 GMT -5
Jones seems more like a rookie this year than last. Receiver play isn't helping. I think the system may have a lot to do with it. Jones and Shurmur seemed to really hit it off but our brilliant ownership thought needed to change that. Looked like Garrett started to add more Shurmur to the playbook this week with some success...we move the ball when Jones uses his legs. i agree he misses shumurs offense and especially in the red zone. maybe they could have kept pat as the OC. and got garrett to HC? idk., but he certainly misses it.
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Post by gmen21 on Oct 4, 2020 18:03:41 GMT -5
The entire offense is abysmal! Facts: Jones is not playing well at all. That being said he has zero talent around him. Literally no playmakers. Also, the O-line has mostly sucked.
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Post by gmen21 on Oct 4, 2020 18:05:00 GMT -5
Slayton is the only NFL WR on this team....Tate is washed up and mailing it in. Slayton is just ok to me. But yes, he’s the only NFL caliber WR on this team.
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Post by FundamentallySoundJones on Oct 4, 2020 18:05:06 GMT -5
The entire offense is abysmal! Facts: Jones is not playing well at all. That being said he has zero talent around him. Literally no playmakers. Also, the O-line has mostly sucked. he has almost no run game, unless he does it himself. come on what do fans expect from him? i did see some flashes of a decent offense during that 3rd qtr, maybe build off that.
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Post by JoeBigBlue on Oct 4, 2020 18:05:08 GMT -5
The entire offense is abysmal! Facts: Jones is not playing well at all. That being said he has zero talent around him. Literally no playmakers. Also, the O-line has mostly sucked. Gano is the answer!...LOL
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Post by McCherry on Oct 4, 2020 18:05:47 GMT -5
Wide receivers were shit today. Jones practically earned every yard by himself.
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Post by NAVY2323(ret) on Oct 4, 2020 18:05:50 GMT -5
Except that the pick that iced the game, despite being a good play by the DB, was a bad throw and he had at least 10 yards to run. Managed not to be the guy we were afraid he was turning into until it mattered most.
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Post by gmen21 on Oct 4, 2020 18:06:53 GMT -5
The entire offense is abysmal! Facts: Jones is not playing well at all. That being said he has zero talent around him. Literally no playmakers. Also, the O-line has mostly sucked. he has almost no run game, unless he does it himself. come on what do fans expect for him? i did see some flashes of a decent offense during that 3rd qtr, maybe build off that. I don’t want to give Jones a free pass, but you’re right he has no talent what-so-ever around him. None!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2020 18:07:31 GMT -5
Tate forgets how to catch a pass. Put him in the retirement home. I like Slayton. My son on the other hand, says I’m misguided and misinformed. He yelled at me today. He said...man, all I hear from you is Slayton, Slayton,Slayton! I’ve been watching him the last couple weeks and he is comparable to a damn practice squad WR! I told him that Jones can’t hit him cause he’s covered. He told me he don’t give a shit, either way he’s your playmaker...you got to find a way to get Slayton the ball 10 times a game at least cause Tate ain’t doing shit.
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Post by FundamentallySoundJones on Oct 4, 2020 18:08:36 GMT -5
Wide receivers were shit today. Jones practically earned every yard by himself. agreed when was the last time our QB was the leading rusher 4 weeks into a season? fans need to cut him some slack.
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Post by Kruunch on Oct 4, 2020 18:10:21 GMT -5
Classic blame everyone else excuse. We did that for 15 years with Eli, let’s give it a rest..
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Post by jaxnygmen on Oct 4, 2020 18:13:06 GMT -5
only slayton i see runs a nice route and can get separation. engram dogs it, golden taint is a mouse. Jones plays a roll in the issues because he locks completely on one WR and he holds on to the ball to long. He is not instinctual or quick thinking. He is not a franchise QB. These this can not be coached out of him. Granted the Cupboard is bare but Jones is not the answer either.
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Post by Martin on Oct 4, 2020 18:15:51 GMT -5
only slayton i see runs a nice route and can get separation. engram dogs it, golden taint is a mouse. Jones plays a roll in the issues because he locks completely on one WR and he holds on to the ball to long. He is not instinctual or quick thinking. He is not a franchise QB. These this can not be coached out of him. Granted the Cupboard is bare but Jones is not the answer either. unfortunately i agree
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Post by FundamentallySoundJones on Oct 4, 2020 18:15:54 GMT -5
Classic blame everyone else excuse. We did that for 15 years with Eli, let’s give it a rest.. Im not saying he played great like ppl told me all the time. im just saying give him a chance to improve. new system , receivers dogging it , ect.
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Post by McCherry on Oct 4, 2020 18:16:30 GMT -5
Tate forgets how to catch a pass. Put him in the retirement home. I like Slayton. My son on the other hand, says I’m misguided and misinformed. He yelled at me today. He said...man, all I hear from you is Slayton, Slayton,Slayton! I’ve been watching him the last couple weeks and he is comparable to a damn practice squad WR! I told him that Jones can’t hit him cause he’s covered. He told me he don’t give a shit, either way he’s your playmaker...you got to find a way to get Slayton the ball 10 times a game at least cause Tate ain’t doing shit. Your son does have a point. Slayton needs to step up. And Garrett needs to find a way to help make this happen.
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Post by Kruunch on Oct 4, 2020 18:19:02 GMT -5
Classic blame everyone else excuse. We did that for 15 years with Eli, let’s give it a rest.. I not saying he played great like ppl told me all the time. im just saying give him a chance to improve. new system , receivers dogging it , ect. Two straight games with no touch downs. Not one.. Sure, let’s give him a chance. I mean, he needs great players around him to succeed at this level. Totally contradicts why we drafted him 6th overall.
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Post by FundamentallySoundJones on Oct 4, 2020 18:21:05 GMT -5
I not saying he played great like ppl told me all the time. im just saying give him a chance to improve. new system , receivers dogging it , ect. Two straight games with no touch downs. Not one.. Sure, let’s give him a chance. I mean, he needs great players around him to succeed at this level. Totally contradicts why we drafted him 6th overall. He has shown us flashes, that escape was a thing of beauty. his runs were fantastic. give him some time.
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Post by giantlegacy on Oct 4, 2020 18:23:30 GMT -5
This is our offense around Jones 1.Very young and inexperienced O line that needs time to gell as a unit..(silver lining is that they as a unit this actually looks like its starting after today] 2.Not one major player on offense a team is losing sleep over having to completely game plan to take away without Barkley. 3.Stayton is a very talented WR but he isn't a top guy,he flourishes when we have something else...notice he disappeared after Barkley was injured...not hard to take a guy like him away with just a safety shade ..
Engram is an enigma, Im about dome with him....
Tate=useless
When Gettleman made the Odell trade all I heard from a bunch of arrogant condescending old school stuck in 1990 emroes was "We DoNt NeEd tO rEpLaCe wHaT wE LoSt wItH oDeLl..We NeVeR wOn WiTh gOoD rEcIeVeRs..WeCaN jUsT spread iT oUt wItH mIdDlInG aVrAgE guYs...
Ignorantly forgetting that we were about to draft a young franchise qb...
These emroes got exactly what they want and now want a new qb...
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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2020 18:28:40 GMT -5
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Post by allnygin on Oct 4, 2020 18:29:31 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2020 18:32:10 GMT -5
This is our offense around Jones 1.Very young and inexperienced O line that needs time to gell as a unit..(silver lining is that they as a unit this actually looks like its starting after today] 2.Not one major player on offense a team is losing sleep over having to completely game plan to take away without Barkley. 3.Stayton is a very talented WR but he isn't a top guy,he flourishes when we have something else...notice he disappeared after Barkley was injured...not hard to take a guy like him away with just a safety shade .. Engram is an enigma, Im about dome with him.... Tate=useless When Gettleman made the Odell trade all I heard from a bunch of arrogant condescending old school stuck in 1990 emroes was "We DoNt NeEd tO rEpLaCe wHaT wE LoSt wItH oDeLl..We NeVeR wOn WiTh gOoD rEcIeVeRs..WeCaN jUsT spread iT oUt wItH mIdDlInG aVrAgE guYs... Ignorantly forgetting that we were about to draft a young franchise qb... These emroes got exactly what they want and now want a new qb... It’s fair to say that Dave doesn’t care about WR’s. He got rid of Steve Smith then Odell. He drafted a RB in Carolina 1st Round and NY first round. Getting back to Odell. He would greatly help out the run game and Jones. The defense would have to respect him and wouldn’t be able to crowd the box. Look I am no coordinator but even I can see we basically run every 1st down and then pass 2nd and 3rd
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Post by lt56 on Oct 4, 2020 18:33:06 GMT -5
Naw he staring down receivers also
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Post by giantlegacy on Oct 4, 2020 18:33:17 GMT -5
Two straight games with no touch downs. Not one.. Sure, let’s give him a chance. I mean, he needs great players around him to succeed at this level. Totally contradicts why we drafted him 6th overall. He has shown us flashes, that escape was a thing of beauty. his runs were fantastic. give him some time. Something to remember watching Mayfield the past 3 weeks Remember how badly he regressed last year? Ironically playing Shurmur ball with the OC Shurmur was expecting to have here... Revamped O line.. The game Looks like its in slow motion for him Let's see what the rest of the year holds...
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Post by TCHOF on Oct 4, 2020 18:34:13 GMT -5
Jones seems more like a rookie this year than last. Receiver play isn't helping. I think the system may have a lot to do with it. Jones and Shurmur seemed to really hit it off but our brilliant ownership thought needed to change that. Looked like Garrett started to add more Shurmur to the playbook this week with some success...we move the ball when Jones uses his legs. You wanted to keep Shurmur?
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