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Post by Eazy E on Oct 4, 2020 18:40:26 GMT -5
Thats my guy Allen, I also wanted Myles Jack in the 2nd rd the other year. How has he been, lol
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Post by SG88 on Oct 4, 2020 18:44:58 GMT -5
This is our offense around Jones 1.Very young and inexperienced O line that needs time to gell as a unit..(silver lining is that they as a unit this actually looks like its starting after today] 2.Not one major player on offense a team is losing sleep over having to completely game plan to take away without Barkley. 3.Stayton is a very talented WR but he isn't a top guy,he flourishes when we have something else...notice he disappeared after Barkley was injured...not hard to take a guy like him away with just a safety shade .. Engram is an enigma, Im about dome with him.... Tate=useless When Gettleman made the Odell trade all I heard from a bunch of arrogant condescending old school stuck in 1990 emroes was "We DoNt NeEd tO rEpLaCe wHaT wE LoSt wItH oDeLl..We NeVeR wOn WiTh gOoD rEcIeVeRs..WeCaN jUsT spread iT oUt wItH mIdDlInG aVrAgE guYs... Ignorantly forgetting that we were about to draft a young franchise qb... These emroes got exactly what they want and now want a new qb... There's an old saying that goes "Be careful what you ask for because you might just get it". The scapegoating of Beckham was lame then and even more pathetic in hindsight. You keep talent like that, especially in their prime. The Giants have not replaced that talent or production. Look at us now. We are 0-4, grasping for moral victories on a weekly basis, and are bragging about at least not being the Jets. Lol |
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Post by giantlegacy on Oct 4, 2020 18:47:46 GMT -5
This is our offense around Jones 1.Very young and inexperienced O line that needs time to gell as a unit..(silver lining is that they as a unit this actually looks like its starting after today] 2.Not one major player on offense a team is losing sleep over having to completely game plan to take away without Barkley. 3.Stayton is a very talented WR but he isn't a top guy,he flourishes when we have something else...notice he disappeared after Barkley was injured...not hard to take a guy like him away with just a safety shade .. Engram is an enigma, Im about dome with him.... Tate=useless When Gettleman made the Odell trade all I heard from a bunch of arrogant condescending old school stuck in 1990 emroes was "We DoNt NeEd tO rEpLaCe wHaT wE LoSt wItH oDeLl..We NeVeR wOn WiTh gOoD rEcIeVeRs..WeCaN jUsT spread iT oUt wItH mIdDlInG aVrAgE guYs... Ignorantly forgetting that we were about to draft a young franchise qb... These emroes got exactly what they want and now want a new qb... There's an old saying that goes "Be careful what you ask for because you might just get it". The scapegoating of Beckham was lame then and even more pathetic in hindsight. You keep talent like that, especially in their prime. The Giants have not replaced that talent or production. Look at us now. We are 0-4, grasping for moral victories on a weekly basis, and are bragging about at least not being the Jets. Lol If we got more back in the trade and replaced his skillsets I wouldn't be so down on DG about this Hate playing the hindsight game but a lot of good targets in round 2 where we were sitting in 2019 we could have plucked along with Slayton in the 5th This is George Young in the 90s all over again.... |
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Post by SG88 on Oct 4, 2020 18:51:23 GMT -5
There's an old saying that goes "Be careful what you ask for because you might just get it". The scapegoating of Beckham was lame then and even more pathetic in hindsight. You keep talent like that, especially in their prime. The Giants have not replaced that talent or production. Look at us now. We are 0-4, grasping for moral victories on a weekly basis, and are bragging about at least not being the Jets. Lol If we got more back in the trade and replaced his skillsets I wouldn't be so down on DG about this Hate playing the hindsight game but a lot of good targets in round 2 where we were sitting in 2019 we could have plucked along with Slayton in the 5th This is George Young in the 90s all over again.... DK Metcalf would look great in a Giants uniform. I actually thought that was who we were trading up for last year. |
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Post by giantsalmon on Oct 4, 2020 18:54:47 GMT -5
If we got more back in the trade and replaced his skillsets I wouldn't be so down on DG about this Hate playing the hindsight game but a lot of good targets in round 2 where we were sitting in 2019 we could have plucked along with Slayton in the 5th This is George Young in the 90s all over again.... DK Metcalf would look great in a Giants uniform. I actually thought that was who we were trading up for last year. Thats the type of WR NYG needs. Physical AND fast. |
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Post by giantlegacy on Oct 4, 2020 18:57:03 GMT -5
If we got more back in the trade and replaced his skillsets I wouldn't be so down on DG about this Hate playing the hindsight game but a lot of good targets in round 2 where we were sitting in 2019 we could have plucked along with Slayton in the 5th This is George Young in the 90s all over again.... DK Metcalf would look great in a Giants uniform. I actually thought that was who we were trading up for last year. I was absolutely wrong about him because he was a looks like Tarzan plays like Jane player at ole miss... He legit is the perfect receiver for Garretts offense... I'm drifting on the get rid of Gettleman train because I don't trust him to fix this situation...except I fear Abrams gets the promotion and Chris Mara is the puppet master who wants 1970s gpober ball back here |
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Post by giantlegacy on Oct 4, 2020 18:58:13 GMT -5
DK Metcalf would look great in a Giants uniform. I actually thought that was who we were trading up for last year. Thats the type of WR NYG needs. Physical AND fast. Any kind od dynamic downfield playmaker ...... Physical is nice,but something opposite Slayton to get defenses away from their shallow shell..... |
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Post by tuckrule on Oct 4, 2020 19:02:18 GMT -5
This is our offense around Jones 1.Very young and inexperienced O line that needs time to gell as a unit..(silver lining is that they as a unit this actually looks like its starting after today] 2.Not one major player on offense a team is losing sleep over having to completely game plan to take away without Barkley. 3.Stayton is a very talented WR but he isn't a top guy,he flourishes when we have something else...notice he disappeared after Barkley was injured...not hard to take a guy like him away with just a safety shade .. Engram is an enigma, Im about dome with him.... Tate=useless When Gettleman made the Odell trade all I heard from a bunch of arrogant condescending old school stuck in 1990 emroes was "We DoNt NeEd tO rEpLaCe wHaT wE LoSt wItH oDeLl..We NeVeR wOn WiTh gOoD rEcIeVeRs..WeCaN jUsT spread iT oUt wItH mIdDlInG aVrAgE guYs... Ignorantly forgetting that we were about to draft a young franchise qb... These emroes got exactly what they want and now want a new qb... There's an old saying that goes "Be careful what you ask for because you might just get it". The scapegoating of Beckham was lame then and even more pathetic in hindsight. You keep talent like that, especially in their prime. The Giants have not replaced that talent or production. Look at us now. We are 0-4, grasping for moral victories on a weekly basis, and are bragging about at least not being the Jets. Lol What has Beckham done since leaveing here, besides his game today? Every player has a good game once in a while. He has done NOTHING. He is a shell of himself and to top it all off he still hasn't learned to keep his big mouth shut and play football. He is not a superstar anymore. HMMM I wonder why? Not saying Eli had anything to do with his stardom, but, every receiver that has left the NY Giants has failed badly. Every one, Hmm, Thats interesting because Eli is/was such a bad QB. There is no way Eli made his receivers look much better than they actually were? Hell Eli was keeping them from prospering and achieving all they could have been, wasn't he? At least that is what some on this message board have been saying for years. This is really confusing to me, can one of you guys that knows more than I the FO please elaborate on this for me? I'm really confused? |
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Post by giantsalmon on Oct 4, 2020 19:02:31 GMT -5
Thats the type of WR NYG needs. Physical AND fast. Any kind od dynamic downfield playmaker ...... Physical is nice,but something opposite Slayton to get defenses away from their shallow shell..... I love Slayton, he was a value pick but I never saw him as a number 1. He will start burning Ds again when he has a stud across the field from him. |
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Post by giantlegacy on Oct 4, 2020 19:04:21 GMT -5
There's an old saying that goes "Be careful what you ask for because you might just get it". The scapegoating of Beckham was lame then and even more pathetic in hindsight. You keep talent like that, especially in their prime. The Giants have not replaced that talent or production. Look at us now. We are 0-4, grasping for moral victories on a weekly basis, and are bragging about at least not being the Jets. Lol What has Beckham done since leaveing here, besides his game today? Every player has a good game once in a while. He has done NOTHING. He is a shell of himself and to top it all off he still hasn't learned to keep his big mouth shut and play football. He is not a superstar anymore. HMMM I wonder why? Not saying Eli had anything to do with his stardom, but, every receiver that has left the NY Giants has failed badly. Every one, Hmm, Thats interesting because Eli is/was such a bad QB. There is no way Eli made his receivers look much better than they actually were? Hell Eli was keeping them from prospering and achieving all they could have been, wasn't he? At least that is what some on this message board have been saying for years. This is really confusing to me, can one of you guys that knows more than I the FO please elaborate on this for me? I'm really confused? Beckham has returned to being a dynamic threat this year and its helped Mayfield and the offense be really good My issue wasn't so much the trade but not replacing talent for talent in 2 years since .... |
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Post by SG88 on Oct 4, 2020 19:07:53 GMT -5
What has Beckham done since leaveing here, besides his game today? Every player has a good game once in a while. He has done NOTHING. He is a shell of himself and to top it all off he still hasn't learned to keep his big mouth shut and play football. He is not a superstar anymore. HMMM I wonder why? Not saying Eli had anything to do with his stardom, but, every receiver that has left the NY Giants has failed badly. Every one, Hmm, Thats interesting because Eli is/was such a bad QB. There is no way Eli made his receivers look much better than they actually were? Hell Eli was keeping them from prospering and achieving all they could have been, wasn't he? At least that is what some on this message board have been saying for years. This is really confusing to me, can one of you guys that knows more than I the FO please elaborate on this for me? I'm really confused? Beckham has returned to being a dynamic threat this year and its helped Mayfield and the offense be really good My issue wasn't so much the trade but not replacing talent for talent in 2 years since .... That is exactly the point. No one has replaced his production and we don't have anyone capable of replacing it. Even this year with WR being a glaring need in the draft, they passed on all of them |
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Post by jaxnygmen on Oct 4, 2020 19:14:59 GMT -5
There's an old saying that goes "Be careful what you ask for because you might just get it". The scapegoating of Beckham was lame then and even more pathetic in hindsight. You keep talent like that, especially in their prime. The Giants have not replaced that talent or production. Look at us now. We are 0-4, grasping for moral victories on a weekly basis, and are bragging about at least not being the Jets. Lol What has Beckham done since leaveing here, besides his game today? Every player has a good game once in a while. He has done NOTHING. He is a shell of himself and to top it all off he still hasn't learned to keep his big mouth shut and play football. He is not a superstar anymore. HMMM I wonder why? Not saying Eli had anything to do with his stardom, but, every receiver that has left the NY Giants has failed badly. Every one, Hmm, Thats interesting because Eli is/was such a bad QB. There is no way Eli made his receivers look much better than they actually were? Hell Eli was keeping them from prospering and achieving all they could have been, wasn't he? At least that is what some on this message board have been saying for years. This is really confusing to me, can one of you guys that knows more than I the FO please elaborate on this for me? I'm really confused? Ed McCaffrey was probably the last Giants WR who left and did well. 1995-2000 he was putting up some pretty good numbers at Denver. Beckam was talented but he was also a huge headache. We need a player like a Julio Jones or a Larry Fitzgerald type. Players who just let there play do the talking. |
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Post by McCherry on Oct 4, 2020 19:18:38 GMT -5
Beckham has returned to being a dynamic threat this year and its helped Mayfield and the offense be really good My issue wasn't so much the trade but not replacing talent for talent in 2 years since .... That is exactly the point. No one has replaced his production and we don't have anyone capable of replacing it. Even this year with WR being a glaring need in the draft, they passed on all of them Slayton could if he lives up to the potential he showed last year. This offense clearly misses Shepard who is still our best overall WR. |
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Oct 4, 2020 19:21:16 GMT -5
only slayton i see runs a nice route and can get separation. engram dogs it, golden taint is a mouse. Why did you never say that when Eli had shit to work with? Eli was his white whale back then and he went by Harpooni. He was constantly throwing barbs at Eli he he he. |
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Oct 4, 2020 19:23:31 GMT -5
There's an old saying that goes "Be careful what you ask for because you might just get it". The scapegoating of Beckham was lame then and even more pathetic in hindsight. You keep talent like that, especially in their prime. The Giants have not replaced that talent or production. Look at us now. We are 0-4, grasping for moral victories on a weekly basis, and are bragging about at least not being the Jets. Lol If we got more back in the trade and replaced his skillsets I wouldn't be so down on DG about this Hate playing the hindsight game but a lot of good targets in round 2 where we were sitting in 2019 we could have plucked along with Slayton in the 5th This is George Young in the 90s all over again.... They are a solid draft away from having solid young roster of course if Jones gets himself right and the OL builds and D build on this performance. |
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Oct 4, 2020 19:26:13 GMT -5
There's an old saying that goes "Be careful what you ask for because you might just get it". The scapegoating of Beckham was lame then and even more pathetic in hindsight. You keep talent like that, especially in their prime. The Giants have not replaced that talent or production. Look at us now. We are 0-4, grasping for moral victories on a weekly basis, and are bragging about at least not being the Jets. Lol If we got more back in the trade and replaced his skillsets I wouldn't be so down on DG about this Hate playing the hindsight game but a lot of good targets in round 2 where we were sitting in 2019 we could have plucked along with Slayton in the 5th This is George Young in the 90s all over again.... |
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Post by giantlegacy on Oct 4, 2020 19:33:32 GMT -5
If we got more back in the trade and replaced his skillsets I wouldn't be so down on DG about this Hate playing the hindsight game but a lot of good targets in round 2 where we were sitting in 2019 we could have plucked along with Slayton in the 5th This is George Young in the 90s all over again.... And FA(and I speak as someone that hates paying pass catchers but the exception could be Gallup..) |
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Post by thetruth on Oct 4, 2020 19:36:15 GMT -5
only slayton i see runs a nice route and can get separation. engram dogs it, golden taint is a mouse.  |
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Oct 4, 2020 19:40:26 GMT -5
There is gonna be more this draft coming all shapes and sizes. And FA(and I speak as someone that hates paying pass catchers but the exception could be Gallup..) He would be a nice piece the Giants were supposed to be in good shape but the cap might go down. I would say sign him and draft one or draft 2. |
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Post by giantlegacy on Oct 4, 2020 19:44:03 GMT -5
And FA(and I speak as someone that hates paying pass catchers but the exception could be Gallup..) He would be a nice piece the Giants were supposed to be in good shape but the cap might go down. I would say sign him and draft one or draft 2. It might be a buyers market if the cap goes down..a lot of recievers hitting the market as well He catches my eye because he knows our system as well and its an instant upgrade at a dire need so it makes BPA a lot easier On another note Im about to want to Jetson Engram...... |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2020 20:02:49 GMT -5
only slayton i see runs a nice route and can get separation. engram dogs it, golden taint is a mouse. Would be nice to have a Rookie Like Brandon Aiyuk or CeeDee Lamb for DJ to throw to |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2020 20:08:13 GMT -5
This is our offense around Jones 1.Very young and inexperienced O line that needs time to gell as a unit..(silver lining is that they as a unit this actually looks like its starting after today] 2.Not one major player on offense a team is losing sleep over having to completely game plan to take away without Barkley. 3.Stayton is a very talented WR but he isn't a top guy,he flourishes when we have something else...notice he disappeared after Barkley was injured...not hard to take a guy like him away with just a safety shade .. Engram is an enigma, Im about dome with him.... Tate=useless When Gettleman made the Odell trade all I heard from a bunch of arrogant condescending old school stuck in 1990 emroes was "We DoNt NeEd tO rEpLaCe wHaT wE LoSt wItH oDeLl..We NeVeR wOn WiTh gOoD rEcIeVeRs..WeCaN jUsT spread iT oUt wItH mIdDlInG aVrAgE guYs... Ignorantly forgetting that we were about to draft a young franchise qb... These emroes got exactly what they want and now want a new qb... There's an old saying that goes "Be careful what you ask for because you might just get it". The scapegoating of Beckham was lame then and even more pathetic in hindsight. You keep talent like that, especially in their prime. The Giants have not replaced that talent or production. Look at us now. We are 0-4, grasping for moral victories on a weekly basis, and are bragging about at least not being the Jets. Lol Don’t forget we got basically nothing for a WR that was at the top of his game. A first round pick and Peppers? Gettleman doesn’t value WR’s. Odell and Steve Smith gone. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2020 20:12:14 GMT -5
He would be a nice piece the Giants were supposed to be in good shape but the cap might go down. I would say sign him and draft one or draft 2. It might be a buyers market if the cap goes down..a lot of recievers hitting the market as well He catches my eye because he knows our system as well and its an instant upgrade at a dire need so it makes BPA a lot easier On another note Im about to want to Jetson Engram...... Look we are probably going to have a low pick. Maybe trade back a few spots of someone wants Fields bad enough (who knows. It may be us). and grab Rousseau. Then the best WR in round 2 |
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Post by jaymas on Oct 4, 2020 20:16:22 GMT -5
Outside of our glaring lack of outside weapons, the level of offensive ineptitude is worrisome. As good of a fit as Jones was for the Shurmur west coast system, I actually thought it was an even better fit with Garrett. But what I see is a more skittish QB than last year who just doesn't look very comfortable. Is the system change hurting too much? Is it not the fit it needs to be? Is Jones just having a bad year so far with the ups and downs that come with being a young QB? Tough to watch the offense right now.
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Oct 4, 2020 20:17:24 GMT -5
He would be a nice piece the Giants were supposed to be in good shape but the cap might go down. I would say sign him and draft one or draft 2. It might be a buyers market if the cap goes down..a lot of recievers hitting the market as well He catches my eye because he knows our system as well and its an instant upgrade at a dire need so it makes BPA a lot easier On another note Im about to want to Jetson Engram...... He should be Dynamic it is all there but the head and hands I watch guys Gesecki and think EE has everything they have but really he doesn't just another athlete first football player second. |
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Oct 4, 2020 20:21:57 GMT -5
Outside of our glaring lack of outside weapons, the level of offensive ineptitude is worrisome. As good of a fit as Jones was for the Shurmur west coast system, I actually thought it was an even better fit with Garrett. But what I see is a more skittish QB than last year who just doesn't look very comfortable. Is the system change hurting too much? Is it not the fit it needs to be? Is Jones just having a bad year so far with the ups and downs that come with being a young QB? Tough to watch the offense right now. It's a vertical offense and we have one vertical threat in Slayton who has caught a bad case of dropsy, an OL that is just getting comfortable vertical routes like KGs offense need decent pass pro, he had that the second half but every throw has to be a tight window throw no separation we shall see. |
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Post by krappdetector on Oct 4, 2020 20:44:40 GMT -5
Building from the base up.. 2018 Quenton Nelson, and C / CB 2019 Josh Allen and Dexter Lawrence 2020 Tua Tagovailoa, and WR Oh yeah, a couple RBs in rounds 3-5 any year. |
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Post by krappdetector on Oct 4, 2020 20:51:29 GMT -5
Outside of our glaring lack of outside weapons, the level of offensive ineptitude is worrisome. As good of a fit as Jones was for the Shurmur west coast system, I actually thought it was an even better fit with Garrett. But what I see is a more skittish QB than last year who just doesn't look very comfortable. Is the system change hurting too much? Is it not the fit it needs to be? Is Jones just having a bad year so far with the ups and downs that come with being a young QB? Tough to watch the offense right now. Absolutely. He was so conditioned in the off season to hold onto the ball he now won't get rid of it! |
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Post by gumby on Oct 4, 2020 22:42:31 GMT -5
The entire offense is abysmal! Facts: Jones is not playing well at all. That being said he has zero talent around him. Literally no playmakers. Also, the O-line has mostly sucked. He's gonna get David Carr'd at this rate. |
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Post by GameTime on Oct 4, 2020 23:17:47 GMT -5
WRs and TEs stink.
Jones keeps giving it away despite playing tough. The kid is his own worst enemy.
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