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Post by Deleted on Oct 5, 2020 15:06:06 GMT -5
I have played organized football. Acting like everyone who has played is some beacon of knowledge is comical. And some people have never played and know an immense amount. Fake News. I dont think the OP is saying that at all. I think what the OP is saying is if you haven't walked in a players shoes, then you really have no business critisizing that player. There is a difference in actually playing a position in organized football and getting your ass handed to you and knowing how that feels then someone that has no idea about playing the game and just talking shit like they do know. There is no better insight than actual experience and that is what I think the OP is stressing. But than again i could be totally off base so who knows You're 100% correct. |
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Post by tuckrule on Oct 5, 2020 15:09:35 GMT -5
I dont think the OP is saying that at all. I think what the OP is saying is if you haven't walked in a players shoes, then you really have no business critisizing that player. There is a difference in actually playing a position in organized football and getting your ass handed to you and knowing how that feels then someone that has no idea about playing the game and just talking shit like they do know. There is no better insight than actual experience and that is what I think the OP is stressing. But than again i could be totally off base so who knows You're 100% correct.  |
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Post by giantlegacy on Oct 5, 2020 15:14:21 GMT -5
His point is well taken. Only those that have played at least the high school level really know the ins and outs and some that played in college (like myself) have a more informed view and realities of what happens on the field and within a team. Anyone has the right to give an opinion on the Giants and their reasons for that opinion, but it is a fact that those with actual experience understand the game, politics, and reality of a team’s current status and future prospects......and right now both are heading down......and fast.
Understanding the game is great, but there's something to be said for someone's communication skills and personality on a message board as well.
Who's actually going to listen to a knowledgeable prick?
As someone who can admit to being a little abrasive this post isn't going to win him new fans...shame because he actually has good points |
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Post by giantlegacy on Oct 5, 2020 15:15:10 GMT -5
Yes...we played organized football in the afternoon, invented blues music in the evening...celebrated all night eating waffles...did tell him his metabolism would eventually slow up and to watch the whipped cream toppings...I'm not to blame for the fat Elvis.  Elvis...knows more about football then Gunner I didn't know Waffle House existed badk then 10/10 post btw |
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Post by jmike on Oct 5, 2020 15:48:58 GMT -5
Understanding the game is great, but there's something to be said for someone's communication skills and personality on a message board as well.
Who's actually going to listen to a knowledgeable prick?
As someone who can admit to being a little abrasive this post isn't going to win him new fans...shame because he actually has good points People need to worry more about the point being made than their like or dislike of the poster. He does make some good points and some bad ones as well, like everyone else around here. |
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Post by Roosevelt on Oct 5, 2020 16:01:50 GMT -5
Understanding the game is great, but there's something to be said for someone's communication skills and personality on a message board as well.
Who's actually going to listen to a knowledgeable prick?
As someone who can admit to being a little abrasive this post isn't going to win him new fans...shame because he actually has good points
I don't think anyone doubts that there aren't things that can be learned from guys that have played the game, but that's just a part of the experience here. There's also camaraderie, humor, sharing memories and more.
To make a blanket statement like that is pretty shallow as far as I'm concerned. No one is interested in being talked down to.
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Post by jmike on Oct 5, 2020 16:03:02 GMT -5
As someone who can admit to being a little abrasive this post isn't going to win him new fans...shame because he actually has good points
I don't think anyone doubts that there aren't things that can be learned from guys that have played the game, but that's just a part of the experience here. There's also camaraderie, humor, sharing memories and more.
To make a blanket statement like that is pretty shallow as far as I'm concerned. No one is interested in being talked down to.
Don't say no one....people have their kinks, doncha know. |
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Post by DandyDon on Oct 5, 2020 16:09:55 GMT -5
I did play for a couple of years in high school but learned most of what I know from playing tackle football on the city street in front of my house wearing only (poorly made and fitted) helmets. I played in the "before foam" era....just leather and canvas straps inside. I didn't play organized football, but I did stay in a Holiday inn Express... |
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Post by Roosevelt on Oct 5, 2020 16:13:07 GMT -5
I don't think anyone doubts that there aren't things that can be learned from guys that have played the game, but that's just a part of the experience here. There's also camaraderie, humor, sharing memories and more.
To make a blanket statement like that is pretty shallow as far as I'm concerned. No one is interested in being talked down to.
Don't say no one....people have their kinks, doncha know.
Well I'm speaking about all the rest because they're good enough, they're smart enough, and gosh darn it, we like them. |
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Post by TCHOF on Oct 5, 2020 16:13:55 GMT -5
The OP has himself demonstrated numerous times on this MB that alleged prior football experience does not necessarily translate into smart football ideas/evaluations.
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Post by FundamentallySoundJones on Oct 5, 2020 16:27:47 GMT -5
I played , i had a letter in academics and football/sports . LB/TE I coached the defensive side of the ball for taxi and pee wee programs. I also have 2 successful madden franchises.
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Post by keyofgmen on Oct 5, 2020 17:08:22 GMT -5
So this certainly disqualifies all players on the current Giants team from posting...
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Post by JoeBigBlue on Oct 5, 2020 17:54:03 GMT -5
I did play for a couple of years in high school but learned most of what I know from playing tackle football on the city street in front of my house wearing only (poorly made and fitted) helmets. I played in the "before foam" era....just leather and canvas straps inside. I didn't play organized football, but I did stay in a Holiday inn Express... I've done that not once but twice. So don't ever question my opinion on it lol.... |
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Post by Roosevelt on Oct 5, 2020 18:39:31 GMT -5
I played , i had a letter in academics and football/sports . LB/TE I coached the defensive side of the ball for taxi and pee wee programs. I also have 2 successful madden franchises.
That makes you the perfect example for this discussion. One can tell you have knowledge of the game when you choose to share it, but that is not your persona as a poster.
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Post by Jomo on Oct 5, 2020 18:52:40 GMT -5
I didn't play organized football, but I did stay in a Holiday inn Express... I've done that not once but twice. So don't ever question my opinion on it lol.... Played tackle on a city street in Newark? |
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Post by JoeBigBlue on Oct 5, 2020 19:25:07 GMT -5
I've done that not once but twice. So don't ever question my opinion on it lol.... Played tackle on a city street in Newark? Worse: stayed at a Holiday Inn Express. |
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Post by Roosevelt on Oct 5, 2020 19:37:42 GMT -5
So, you think you're better than me?
Ok....
How many of you posers have played football with a pro football player?
Of which, how many played with a Giant?
And of those, how many played with a HOF'er?
I win.
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Post by Roswell on Oct 5, 2020 19:48:39 GMT -5
I own a football.
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Post by vbgiantsfan on Oct 5, 2020 19:48:47 GMT -5
... there should be an asterisk beside your username so the people who have seen the chaos from a field level view can interrupt your opinions from a bird’s eye view. That’s all. Nice appeal to authority fallacy. If you can't make and defend your points in a cogent and persuasive way, I don't care how much football you played. No logical fallacy is going to give you any more credibility than anyone else on this board. |
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Oct 5, 2020 19:49:45 GMT -5
I did play for a couple of years in high school but learned most of what I know from playing tackle football on the city street in front of my house wearing only (poorly made and fitted) helmets. I played in the "before foam" era....just leather and canvas straps inside. LOL thats what I did and played in the same thing in pop warner, high school we had the new helmets with gel or water or what ever that shit was, in the military we had air thought they were the greatest thing the evaluation of the helmet lol. |
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Post by Roosevelt on Oct 5, 2020 19:52:50 GMT -5
The Nerf with the tail doesn't exactly count buddy. |
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Post by Jomo on Oct 5, 2020 19:53:31 GMT -5
Played tackle on a city street in Newark? Worse: stayed at a Holiday Inn Express. ROTFL |
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Oct 5, 2020 19:54:46 GMT -5
As someone who can admit to being a little abrasive this post isn't going to win him new fans...shame because he actually has good points People need to worry more about the point being made than their like or dislike of the poster. He does make some good points and some bad ones as well, like everyone else around here. If your talking ball and especially more modern I'm down last time I wore a helmet was in 1981 so football has changed about 5 times since then. |
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Post by Kruunch on Oct 5, 2020 19:55:39 GMT -5
I did play for a couple of years in high school but learned most of what I know from playing tackle football on the city street in front of my house wearing only (poorly made and fitted) helmets. I played in the "before foam" era....just leather and canvas straps inside. LOL thats what I did and played in the same thing in pop warner, high school we had the new helmets with gel or water or what ever that shit was, in the military we had air thought they were the greatest thing the evaluation of the helmet lol. I knew it. So, you played for Pop Warner? You truly are old. Let me ask you, those leather helmets. Are they comfortable? I’ve seen them in a museum, and was curious. |
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Oct 5, 2020 19:58:49 GMT -5
LOL thats what I did and played in the same thing in pop warner, high school we had the new helmets with gel or water or what ever that shit was, in the military we had air thought they were the greatest thing the evaluation of the helmet lol. I knew it. So, you played for Pop Warner? You truly are old. Let me ask you, those leather helmets. Are they comfortable? I’ve seen them in a museum, and was curious. LOL comfy actually. We had the suspension helmets with the canvas straps when you got hit it was like having your head inside a bell lol. |
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Post by Morehead State on Oct 5, 2020 19:59:04 GMT -5
... there should be an asterisk beside your username so the people who have seen the chaos from a field level view can interrupt your opinions from a bird’s eye view. That’s all. This isn't a message board of former players. It's for Giants fans.
There should be an asterisk next to the names of arrogant douche bags who think they are better than everyone else because they played Pop Warner football.
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Oct 5, 2020 20:04:12 GMT -5
... there should be an asterisk beside your username so the people who have seen the chaos from a field level view can interrupt your opinions from a bird’s eye view. That’s all. This isn't a message board of former players. It's for Giants fans.
There should be an asterisk next to the names of arrogant douche bags who think they are better than everyone else because they played Pop Warner football.
Easy making fun of pop warner now, some of the most complex offenses and defenses have come from that league  |
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Post by Roswell on Oct 5, 2020 20:05:31 GMT -5
The Nerf with the tail doesn't exactly count buddy. Says who? |
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Post by Roosevelt on Oct 5, 2020 20:08:48 GMT -5
The Nerf with the tail doesn't exactly count buddy. Says who?
Well let me ask you. Does it say "Duke" on it?
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Post by Roswell on Oct 5, 2020 20:16:14 GMT -5
Well let me ask you. Does it say "Duke" on it?
I’m still laughing from Morehead going completely off 15 minutes ago. Jeez. And no, it doesn’t say Duke. I think it says Toys R Us. |
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