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Post by vbgiantsfan on Oct 11, 2020 19:12:32 GMT -5
I thought he played well outside of the fumble. TD to Slayton called back. Fumbles still a huge problem. Offensive line did not pass block well, looked like Thomas had a rough game - he did catch a ball in the endzone though. Yeah, we need to start making threads about Thomas. He singlehandedly makes Jones a worse QB. He needs to be benched. I don't care if he's a rookie. If you suck you suck. Teams just collapse the pocket every play from the left side.
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Post by bigbluebandit on Oct 11, 2020 19:17:05 GMT -5
He’s not the guy .. no touchdowns in 3 games , and gave up 7 because he can’t hold the damn ball when he gets hit .. this is not going to go away .. dalton who was sitting on the bench comes in throwing dimes and we need Danny boy to step up and he melts like butter .. People like you are the reason QBs and Coaches get replaced too early. Yes, a guy who is in Year 2, who has had a below average line which has a retread RT at C, a rookie LT, journeyman RT and a young LG who looks lost at time. We have 1 good lineman. We also have 3 slot receivers vying for our #1 spot... Not to mention, a new head coach, offensive coordinator and QB Coach. 2, in 2 years. Yeah HOW DARE HE not perform like Pat Mahomes who has a great line, multiple good running backs and a 4th WR who is as good as our #1. I mean clearly Jones sucks.
You guys that have obviously never played organized football don't understand how hard it is to orchestrate an offense at ANY level. Let alone an NFL offense you have months of experience in where you have a rotating door at RB, WR and OL.
The guy is running for his life every play because noone is getting separation at the same time the pocket is being pushed into him.
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Post by GMenNY21 on Oct 11, 2020 19:17:18 GMT -5
Unless a miracle happens .The way things r looking, the Thomas and Jones picks will be the nail in the coffin for Getty. Still early but Jones doesn’t inspire confidence in his ability. Even when he gets time in the pocket he stares down his first read and struggles through progressions. The turnover issue looks like it’s here to stay so what is the upside here? His accuracy isn't all what been made out to be either.
He did throw a couple nice deep balls today but he’s so inconsistent and I’m not sure he’s talented enough to overlook his many flaws.
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Post by McCherry on Oct 11, 2020 19:18:10 GMT -5
Unacceptable offensive performance against a team that's giving up over 400 yds per game. On our final drive we're throwing screen passes and losing yardage. Unbelievable.
I've defended him, but Andrew Thomas is a huge problem.
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Post by vbgiantsfan on Oct 11, 2020 19:20:56 GMT -5
Unacceptable offensive performance against a team that's giving up over 400 yds per game. On our final drive we're throwing screen passes and losing yardage. Unbelievable. I've defended him, but Andrew Thomas is a huge problem. Sadly, both Jones and Thomas look like terrible draft picks so far. That's a huge indictment on Gettleman, considering the draft position and importance of those 2 players to the team. This tandem has been a disaster.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 11, 2020 19:21:47 GMT -5
Zero touchdowns in 3 straight games. That’s acceptable in ‘74. He had an opportunity to shut the naysayers up, and he fell short. And Dalton, who probably had a few beers in him put the Cowboys in position to win. Isn’t it 4 games. He scored two against the Steelers week 1 and never again www.espn.com/nfl/player/_/id/3917792/daniel-jones
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Post by Deleted on Oct 11, 2020 19:22:29 GMT -5
You have to start keeping track of turnovers on this weekly thread. I dont see the killer instict. I dont see any instinct actually. Zero TDs in 3 straight games When did he score after Week 1???
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Post by McCherry on Oct 11, 2020 19:22:48 GMT -5
Unacceptable offensive performance against a team that's giving up over 400 yds per game. On our final drive we're throwing screen passes and losing yardage. Unbelievable. I've defended him, but Andrew Thomas is a huge problem. Sadly, both Jones and Thomas look like terrible draft picks so far. That's a huge indictment on Gettleman, considering the draft position and importance of those 2 players to the team. This tandem has been a disaster. I don't have a problem with how Jones played today. If the refs didn't go after us, we'd all be calling him a hero.
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Post by giantlegacy on Oct 11, 2020 19:24:08 GMT -5
He’s not the guy .. no touchdowns in 3 games , and gave up 7 because he can’t hold the damn ball when he gets hit .. this is not going to go away .. dalton who was sitting on the bench comes in throwing dimes and we need Danny boy to step up and he melts like butter .. People like you are the reason QBs and Coaches get replaced too early. Yes, a guy who is in Year 2, who has had a below average line which has a retread RT at C, a rookie LT, journeyman RT and a young LG who looks lost at time. We have 1 good lineman. We also have 3 slot receivers vying for our #1 spot... Not to mention, a new head coach, offensive coordinator and QB Coach. 2, in 2 years. Yeah HOW DARE HE not perform like Pat Mahomes who has a great line, multiple good running backs and a 4th WR who is as good as our #1. I mean clearly Jones sucks.
You guys that have obviously never played organized football don't understand how hard it is to orchestrate an offense at ANY level. Let alone an NFL offense you have months of experience in where you have a rotating door at RB, WR and OL.
The guy is running for his life every play because noone is getting separation at the same time the pocket is being pushed into him.
Logic
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Post by Deleted on Oct 11, 2020 19:24:19 GMT -5
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Post by thetruth on Oct 11, 2020 19:28:12 GMT -5
Daniel Jones has a turnover in 17 of 18 career games.
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Post by vbgiantsfan on Oct 11, 2020 19:29:35 GMT -5
He’s not the guy .. no touchdowns in 3 games , and gave up 7 because he can’t hold the damn ball when he gets hit .. this is not going to go away .. dalton who was sitting on the bench comes in throwing dimes and we need Danny boy to step up and he melts like butter .. People like you are the reason QBs and Coaches get replaced too early. Yes, a guy who is in Year 2, who has had a below average line which has a retread RT at C, a rookie LT, journeyman RT and a young LG who looks lost at time. We have 1 good lineman. We also have 3 slot receivers vying for our #1 spot... Not to mention, a new head coach, offensive coordinator and QB Coach. 2, in 2 years. Yeah HOW DARE HE not perform like Pat Mahomes who has a great line, multiple good running backs and a 4th WR who is as good as our #1. I mean clearly Jones sucks.
You guys that have obviously never played organized football don't understand how hard it is to orchestrate an offense at ANY level. Let alone an NFL offense you have months of experience in where you have a rotating door at RB, WR and OL.
The guy is running for his life every play because noone is getting separation at the same time the pocket is being pushed into him.
Sorry bro. In the modern day NFL, if you can't throw TDs, you are not long for the QB position. I assume you never saw Jones in college. This is literally who Daniel Jones is. He wasn't a top prospect for a reason. He was over drafted. He doesn't make the team better. He is a cog in a wheel. That's not franchise QB material, that's backup QB material. No one is looking for Mahomes, but what we are being delivered is worse than Dave Brown. "You guys...never played organized football.." blah blah blah. Same old apologist crap. Doesn't take a QB coach to see a good and bad product on the field. Right now Jones is delivering a bad product.
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Post by DJones19 on Oct 11, 2020 19:29:54 GMT -5
Zero touchdowns in 3 straight games. That’s acceptable in ‘74. He had an opportunity to shut the naysayers up, and he fell short. And Dalton, who probably had a few beers in him put the Cowboys in position to win. Isn’t it 4 games. He scored two against the Steelers week 1 and never again www.espn.com/nfl/player/_/id/3917792/daniel-jonesAnd Jones set an NFL record as a rookie for 4+ TD games. ...before his coach was ran out of town.
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Post by thetruth on Oct 11, 2020 19:32:32 GMT -5
And Jones set an NFL record as a rookie for 4+ TD games. ...before his roach was ran out of town. All the Shurmur hate this fanbase had, when in reality it was a talent problem all along. If you were looking hard enough. Shurmur was great for Jones.
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Post by TheAnalyst on Oct 11, 2020 19:35:39 GMT -5
Daniel Jones has a turnover in 17 of 18 career games. And I bet half are multi turnover games
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Post by allnygin on Oct 11, 2020 19:37:12 GMT -5
He’s not the guy .. no touchdowns in 3 games , and gave up 7 because he can’t hold the damn ball when he gets hit .. this is not going to go away .. dalton who was sitting on the bench comes in throwing dimes and we need Danny boy to step up and he melts like butter .. People like you are the reason QBs and Coaches get replaced too early. Yes, a guy who is in Year 2, who has had a below average line which has a retread RT at C, a rookie LT, journeyman RT and a young LG who looks lost at time. We have 1 good lineman. We also have 3 slot receivers vying for our #1 spot... Not to mention, a new head coach, offensive coordinator and QB Coach. 2, in 2 years. Yeah HOW DARE HE not perform like Pat Mahomes who has a great line, multiple good running backs and a 4th WR who is as good as our #1. I mean clearly Jones sucks.
You guys that have obviously never played organized football don't understand how hard it is to orchestrate an offense at ANY level. Let alone an NFL offense you have months of experience in where you have a rotating door at RB, WR and OL.
The guy is running for his life every play because noone is getting separation at the same time the pocket is being pushed into him.
Hell i'd take trent dilfer at this point. I'm not picky.
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Post by giantlegacy on Oct 11, 2020 19:38:01 GMT -5
And Jones set an NFL record as a rookie for 4+ TD games. ...before his coach was ran out of town. But But **** CONTINUITY The same instant gratification emroes now act surprised Jones has regressed. Shurmer wasn't the long term answer but maybe get an OC in that had a similar system Look at Cleveland playing Shurmur ball with tbe guy Shurmur wanted as OC?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 11, 2020 19:40:28 GMT -5
He’s not the guy .. no touchdowns in 3 games , and gave up 7 because he can’t hold the damn ball when he gets hit .. this is not going to go away .. dalton who was sitting on the bench comes in throwing dimes and we need Danny boy to step up and he melts like butter .. No Touchdowns in 4 Games you mean
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Post by allnygin on Oct 11, 2020 19:40:38 GMT -5
The organization allowing Shumur and Gettlemen to draft Jones and then get rid of the guy who drafted him, his system and all of that is not on the fan base, thats on Mara.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 11, 2020 19:42:13 GMT -5
He’s terrible, but we’ll Get a couple of meaningless wins and lose out on Lawrence Maybe if he ever gets a line and another wide receiver or 2 he wouldn't be playing so bad,,Ya think? I admittedly state that I have never been in the NFL but even I can see how he stares down receivers and holds the ball too long
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Post by GMenNY21 on Oct 11, 2020 19:47:15 GMT -5
So we got a limited west coast style qb who can't play in a vertical system with the 6th overall pick in the draft. Nice. What a bang-up job by gettleman
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Post by Deleted on Oct 11, 2020 19:48:40 GMT -5
And Jones set an NFL record as a rookie for 4+ TD games. ...before his coach was ran out of town. And we Won the Suoerbowl in 2012. We have to focus on the now, not the past
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Post by martyr on Oct 11, 2020 19:52:15 GMT -5
Be prepared to rip that band aid off. Jones might not be the guy. The way I see it he’s got this season to prove he’s the guy and if not so be it.
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Post by thetruth on Oct 11, 2020 19:53:16 GMT -5
Daniel Jones has a turnover in 17 of 18 career games. And I bet half are multi turnover games Well, you sure as heck dont earn 32 turnovers in those 17 games without doubling up a few here and there. He does have 28 TDs in the same time. So thats great but we're not going to be a winning team if he keeps turning the ball over at a higher rate than TDs. Not going to happen.
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Post by hadenough on Oct 11, 2020 19:54:15 GMT -5
Not good enough...just like every one of his games. Becoming a bad trend.
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Post by allnygin on Oct 11, 2020 20:00:13 GMT -5
The only thing I care about is, what the new GM and Judge decide going into next season.
If they think Jones is the guy and I'm Mara I let that happen. If they both don't feel he is the guy and I'm Mara I let them get their guy. Im hoping Jones gets his shit together, so we don't have to spend another pick on a QB.
Right now, drafting Penei Sewell or a Pass rusher or a trade back with the first round in the draft, a WR in the second, and FA sounds really great right now. If jones is playing like he is now, at end of the season. I really could care less what they do with him, bc it's not enough despite the shitty circumstances, its jsut simply not good enough.
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Post by TCHOF on Oct 11, 2020 20:14:19 GMT -5
He’s terrible, but we’ll Get a couple of meaningless wins and lose out on Lawrence Maybe if he ever gets a line and another wide receiver or 2 he wouldn't be playing so bad,,Ya think? We’re going to do this again? Another QB who needs everything around him to be perfect to win a game?
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Post by roundabout on Oct 11, 2020 20:17:59 GMT -5
Maybe if he ever gets a line and another wide receiver or 2 he wouldn't be playing so bad,,Ya think? We’re going to do this again? Another QB who needs everything around him to be perfect to win a game? No....But putting an average team around him..Is that asking too much?
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Post by giantlegacy on Oct 11, 2020 20:19:32 GMT -5
Maybe if he ever gets a line and another wide receiver or 2 he wouldn't be playing so bad,,Ya think? We’re going to do this again? Another QB who needs everything around him to be perfect to win a game? Well Fams wanted to run the coach that basically hand picked Jones out of town They got their wish The fans didn't want us to take any recievers because true Giants football never won with good recievers They got their wish The fans screamed "**** continuity" ..in year when there was no onfield OTAs where work is done...and no preseason They got their wish Now the fans scream "Jones Sucks..he is a bust" The fans got their wish The fans have become bigger morons than the people who run this team and keep getting their wishes
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Post by Kruunch on Oct 11, 2020 20:20:39 GMT -5
We’re going to do this again? Another QB who needs everything around him to be perfect to win a game? No....But putting an average team around him..Is that asking too much? Well, he is an average quarterback..
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