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Post by Morehead State on Mar 29, 2021 16:42:15 GMT -5
Well it seems very confusing as to which games we should count. Which games does the NFL count?
It's like garbage time stats. It's hard to define but you know it when you see it kinda. Not sure I share your view that there is any ambiguity at all.
I'm pretty sure each win counts the same in the NFL.
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Post by Sarcasman on Mar 29, 2021 16:48:47 GMT -5
It's like garbage time stats. It's hard to define but you know it when you see it kinda. Not sure I share your view that there is any ambiguity at all.
I'm pretty sure each win counts the same in the NFL.
I could have told you that. But you raised the premise not me.
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Post by Morehead State on Mar 29, 2021 16:49:52 GMT -5
Not sure I share your view that there is any ambiguity at all.
I'm pretty sure each win counts the same in the NFL.
I could have told you that. But you raised the premise not me. I'm confused. (again)
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Post by Deleted on Mar 29, 2021 16:51:38 GMT -5
Not being competitive against those 3 good teams shouldn't be undervalued just like a few wins over bad teams shouldn't be overvalued.. It's cool and all that you are all in with your sunshine and rainbows evaluation of this team but to tell everyone else they should be like that doesn't seems realistic.. You guys can be as negative as you want. But if I were you, I'd check your signature. I'm not negative in fact I'm very positive even when it come to the Giants. I'm positive they suck and it's all Getty's fault..
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Post by DandyDon on Mar 29, 2021 17:04:05 GMT -5
Well at 33 1/3 (about 2 seconds per rotation) and with the average album side being about 20 minutes.....I would say 600. There is only 1 groove. It is continuous. But only one. Actually 2. One on each side.
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Post by Morehead State on Mar 29, 2021 17:19:07 GMT -5
There is only 1 groove. It is continuous. But only one. Actually 2. One on each side. You're late with that one.
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Post by TEM on Mar 30, 2021 5:24:53 GMT -5
It does become moronic when you claim it is fact. "Many folks agree with me that is opinion." Eliedaman was warned repeatedly and was banned for exactly what you are doing. Don't give me that BS. For someone to claim to be as smart as you do. For have a lot of distain for people you never met. First it was Eli. Now you can't bash him anymore . You needed a new victim to bash. Who is it when Gettleman gone? Who is the next Giant to bash under false pretense. Who is the next Giant you feel is beneath you? I claim it as my strongly held opinion.
And I love Eli Manning and always will. I just understood his limits on the field.
If that is true when facts are post . You fail to acknowledge them? You go right to your narrative . I Have see yo call people out with facts when that tout nonsense as fact. I just do not get you logic on this. Why not just say this is why the GM should not be in his tole instead of saying he isn't.
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Post by TEM on Mar 30, 2021 5:26:48 GMT -5
You do remember why you banned ELIDa Manning. It was his content. He never went after anyone. You threatened to ban him for it Then you did. Because you do not moderate the validity of the content. I can start 20 to 30 BS threads a day . How about these 2 threads for starters. "Why is a Football brown" and "The unsung hero. The white line painter of the field" I should be able create 30 of these types of threads a day without having a problem? With no warning or threats of being banned. Correct? If he can be purposeful in setting an agenda. So I can assume all members can . My agenda will be and I will lay it out on the line. Everything about football and nothing that pertains to to the game, FO, coaches, players. Is that what you want a board full of individuals with an agenda? How about I wait until the season starts to begin my little agenda endeavor? It sound ridiculous doesn't it?
Yes it is ridiculous.
When we all moved over to this board, I acquired some "rules" which were adapted from an other sports message board. They may not be perfect but I think they cover most of the issues we tend to face. As an example, your hypothetical could be in violation of two of our "rules."
5. No obsessive posting If you come to this board day after day, making the same basic comments over and over, that is being obsessive . Be sure to understand that no one is saying that specific topics are off limits, but we are saying is obsessing over something, whether it's a player, a coach, a draft pick, the owner, etc. will not be tolerated.
11. Do not attempt to dominate this board A successful message board community involves give and take. If one poster contributes too much to the point of disrupting the community, he or she may lose their posting privileges.
As for Morehead's belief, and yes we all understand it is his belief and not verified as factual; I think it's an interesting topic and worthy of discussion. It's a discussion that has now expanded beyond our site and I will be looking to get this answered from people who actually know.
You do know my post was rhetorical?
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Post by Roosevelt on Mar 30, 2021 6:54:20 GMT -5
Yes it is ridiculous.
When we all moved over to this board, I acquired some "rules" which were adapted from an other sports message board. They may not be perfect but I think they cover most of the issues we tend to face. As an example, your hypothetical could be in violation of two of our "rules."
5. No obsessive posting If you come to this board day after day, making the same basic comments over and over, that is being obsessive . Be sure to understand that no one is saying that specific topics are off limits, but we are saying is obsessing over something, whether it's a player, a coach, a draft pick, the owner, etc. will not be tolerated.
11. Do not attempt to dominate this board A successful message board community involves give and take. If one poster contributes too much to the point of disrupting the community, he or she may lose their posting privileges.
As for Morehead's belief, and yes we all understand it is his belief and not verified as factual; I think it's an interesting topic and worthy of discussion. It's a discussion that has now expanded beyond our site and I will be looking to get this answered from people who actually know.
You do know my post was rhetorical? I think it fell short.
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Post by TEM on Mar 30, 2021 7:25:57 GMT -5
You do know my post was rhetorical? I think it fell short. I came up with the most extreme example of is going on. That does not change why Elidamanning was baned. It was the same pretence.
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Post by Morehead State on Mar 30, 2021 8:41:22 GMT -5
I claim it as my strongly held opinion.
And I love Eli Manning and always will. I just understood his limits on the field.
If that is true when facts are post . You fail to acknowledge them? You go right to your narrative . I Have see yo call people out with facts when that tout nonsense as fact. I just do not get you logic on this. Why not just say this is why the GM should not be in his tole instead of saying he isn't. Examples?
(I'm enjoying this exploration into my personal deficiencies...You have no idea how many you're missing)
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Post by Roosevelt on Mar 30, 2021 8:44:57 GMT -5
I came up with the most extreme example of is going on. That does not change why Elidamanning was baned. It was the same pretence.
I hope you're not trying to equate the contributions of Morehead and that kid who adored Eli.
MS has brought up a topic that has Giants fans talking and after all, that is the purpose of this site. Of course if you do not care for a topic, no one is forcing you to participate in it.
While you and I have been on the same side of this argument of final say; I believe there have been things said by John Mara and action taken by the Giants that lead me to question Judge's power when it comes to personnel.
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Post by TEM on Mar 30, 2021 8:57:53 GMT -5
I came up with the most extreme example of is going on. That does not change why Elidamanning was baned. It was the same pretence.
I hope you're not trying to equate the contributions of Morehead and that kid who adored Eli.
MS has brought up a topic that has Giants fans talking and after all, that is the purpose of this site. Of course if you do not care for a topic, no one is forcing you to participate in it.
While you and I have been on the same side of this argument of final say; I believe there have been things said by John Mara and action taken by the Giants that lead me to question Judge's power when it comes to personnel.
I absolutely am . Why should it matter? What is your point? Is content filtering based upon who presents the post or thread? Most are on the same side as we are. It was the same the board member that was removed from the site.
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Post by snyder55 on Mar 30, 2021 9:02:04 GMT -5
you Googled that answer... No. I figured it out. It's actually not hard. How close am I?
on the last day of your life you're going to wish you had back the time you wasted on things like this:)
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Post by redbeardxxv on Mar 31, 2021 13:36:23 GMT -5
So you now admit that Joe is running this team and not Dave?
I'd say that is a very positive step for you.
Nowhere in that story does it say anything close to that. In fact, it clearly defines Judges' role as the coach who simply "signed off" on the players that Gettleman and the font office recruited. Do I think the players like him? Sure, but it was the money that brought them here. That's the front office's job. Joe has zero say in that. I see your point, but it can't just be the money. I really believe the players we brought in saw what was being build and wanted to be part of it. The money helps, sure, but if I'm a player with a fat bank account to begin with, and I'm given the choice between a winning team and a losing one, obviously, you take the winner. Kyle Rudolf has a net worth of 16 million. He had interest from multiple teams. He chose to come here because the culture has changed. He probably could have gone elsewhere for at least the same $$, if not more.
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Post by Morehead State on Mar 31, 2021 13:56:51 GMT -5
I hope you're not trying to equate the contributions of Morehead and that kid who adored Eli.
MS has brought up a topic that has Giants fans talking and after all, that is the purpose of this site. Of course if you do not care for a topic, no one is forcing you to participate in it.
While you and I have been on the same side of this argument of final say; I believe there have been things said by John Mara and action taken by the Giants that lead me to question Judge's power when it comes to personnel.
I absolutely am . Why should it matter? What is your point? Is content filtering based upon who presents the post or thread? Most are on the same side as we are. It was the same the board member that was removed from the site. It should matter because EliDaManning was a personal attack machine. He belittled anyone who disagreed with him. Just like his brother Dark Saint. (they actually WERE brothers)
Now I have a strongly held view of the power structure on our team. I also cited all the reasons why I believe it. You are certainly free to disagree. I have no problem with folks who do.
It seems you might have a problem with people who disagree with you. At least in this case. Instead of examining my many shortcomings, perhaps a bit of self exploration might be a more productive use of your time.
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Post by TEM on Mar 31, 2021 14:09:30 GMT -5
I absolutely am . Why should it matter? What is your point? Is content filtering based upon who presents the post or thread? Most are on the same side as we are. It was the same the board member that was removed from the site. It should matter because EliDaManning was a personal attack machine. He belittled anyone who disagreed with him. Just like his brother Dark Saint. (they actually WERE brothers)
Now I have a strongly held view of the power structure on our team. I also cited all the reasons why I believe it. You are certainly free to disagree. I have no problem with folks who do.
It seems you might have a problem with people who disagree with you. At least in this case. Instead of examining my many shortcomings, perhaps a bit of self exploration might be a more productive use of your time.
. I have no problem with those that disagree with me. That way I can explain to them why they are incorrect.😃
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Post by Sarcasman on Mar 31, 2021 14:16:22 GMT -5
I absolutely am . Why should it matter? What is your point? Is content filtering based upon who presents the post or thread? Most are on the same side as we are. It was the same the board member that was removed from the site. It should matter because EliDaManning was a personal attack machine. He belittled anyone who disagreed with him. Just like his brother Dark Saint. (they actually WERE brothers)
Now I have a strongly held view of the power structure on our team. I also cited all the reasons why I believe it. You are certainly free to disagree. I have no problem with folks who do.
It seems you might have a problem with people who disagree with you. At least in this case. Instead of examining my many shortcomings, perhaps a bit of self exploration might be a more productive use of your time.
Did we really used have a poster named EliDaManning? I need to pay more attention.
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Post by Morehead State on Mar 31, 2021 14:53:19 GMT -5
It should matter because EliDaManning was a personal attack machine. He belittled anyone who disagreed with him. Just like his brother Dark Saint. (they actually WERE brothers)
Now I have a strongly held view of the power structure on our team. I also cited all the reasons why I believe it. You are certainly free to disagree. I have no problem with folks who do.
It seems you might have a problem with people who disagree with you. At least in this case. Instead of examining my many shortcomings, perhaps a bit of self exploration might be a more productive use of your time.
Did we really used have a poster named EliDaManning? I need to pay more attention. He was one of the 420 posse from the old boards.
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Post by thetruth on Mar 31, 2021 15:11:17 GMT -5
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Post by GameTime on Mar 31, 2021 15:13:20 GMT -5
Maybe Joe and Dave already talked about it
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Post by thetruth on Mar 31, 2021 15:15:33 GMT -5
Maybe Joe and Dave already talked about it The Judge experience is different than any other coach we've had, he's calling the shots. The OP of this thread was bang on in their assessment, even when I didn't agree with him Judge is whats making the Giants relevant again, im excited to see where he takes us
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Post by GameTime on Mar 31, 2021 15:30:02 GMT -5
Maybe Joe and Dave already talked about it The Judge experience is different than any other coach we've had, he's calling the shots. The OP of this thread was bang on in their assessment, even when I didn't agree with him Judge is whats making the Giants relevant again, im excited to see where he takes us of course he has a huge a part. he is the HC.
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Post by snyder55 on Mar 31, 2021 15:36:25 GMT -5
I want Judge to be successful here, as he goes so goes the team, but I think he gets a lot of credit and praise for having accomplished nothing so far and I'm waiting for that to change....
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Post by thetruth on Mar 31, 2021 15:38:44 GMT -5
I want Judge to be successful here, as he goes so goes the team, but I think he gets a lot of credit and praise for having accomplished nothing so far and I'm waiting for that to change.... Absolutely, lets see if this is our year. I think when it comes down to it, ask yourself. Who is the most important person in our organization. Who determines the success of NY Giants above his peers? To me, its Joe Judge, and its not close
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Post by snyder55 on Mar 31, 2021 15:41:41 GMT -5
I want Judge to be successful here, as he goes so goes the team, but I think he gets a lot of credit and praise for having accomplished nothing so far and I'm waiting for that to change.... Absolutely, lets see if this is our year. I think when it comes down to it, ask yourself. Who is the most important person in our organization. Who determines the success of NY Giants above his peers? To me, its Joe Judge, and its not close I think Judge has as much to prove as any player does...
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Post by thetruth on Mar 31, 2021 15:42:51 GMT -5
Absolutely, lets see if this is our year. I think when it comes down to it, ask yourself. Who is the most important person in our organization. Who determines the success of NY Giants above his peers? To me, its Joe Judge, and its not close I think Judge has as much to prove as any player does... Absolutely correct. Him and Daniel Jones
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Post by snyder55 on Mar 31, 2021 15:47:10 GMT -5
I think Judge has as much to prove as any player does... Absolutely correct. Him and Daniel Jones since Judge is the HC of my favorite team I wish him all the luck in the world, but you know what they say, "nice guys always finish last" and I hope thats wrong when it comes to Judge..
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Post by Sarcasman on Mar 31, 2021 15:53:38 GMT -5
Maybe Joe and Dave already talked about it Maybe Morehead is Scout Kelley. I can't imagine that there is any material barrier to entry
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Post by McCherry on Mar 31, 2021 18:30:56 GMT -5
Nowhere in that story does it say anything close to that. In fact, it clearly defines Judges' role as the coach who simply "signed off" on the players that Gettleman and the font office recruited. Do I think the players like him? Sure, but it was the money that brought them here. That's the front office's job. Joe has zero say in that. I see your point, but it can't just be the money. I really believe the players we brought in saw what was being build and wanted to be part of it. The money helps, sure, but if I'm a player with a fat bank account to begin with, and I'm given the choice between a winning team and a losing one, obviously, you take the winner. Kyle Rudolf has a net worth of 16 million. He had interest from multiple teams. He chose to come here because the culture has changed. He probably could have gone elsewhere for at least the same $$, if not more. You might have a point with Rudolph, he clearly wanted to be here. But the offer has to be at least competitive.
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