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Post by McCherry on Mar 28, 2021 10:40:12 GMT -5
Well, they sign because of the money, so I would say every player. I think the free agents liked what Judge has to say, but if the money isn't there, it's not happening. From a a personal aspect its not usually going to be about the GM. Its will be about the team and the HC mostly. Location is a huge part of it. These players have families too with their lives to consider. Players even sometimes take less money to place somewhere that checks all these marks. Not significantly less though.
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Post by GameTime on Mar 28, 2021 10:42:00 GMT -5
From a a personal aspect its not usually going to be about the GM. Its will be about the team and the HC mostly. Location is a huge part of it. These players have families too with their lives to consider. Players even sometimes take less money to place somewhere that checks all these marks. Not significantly less though. There are many factors. Age of the player and what they want as the outcome etc. As you said family too.
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Post by McCherry on Mar 28, 2021 10:44:36 GMT -5
True, he needed John Mara's money. Well, he needed Kevin Abrams to actually structure every deal. Considering, he's not a big believer in backloading deals which he said is as many words but a few weeks ago. New players want to play here because they believe in Judge and what he preaches, that has been a constant that they all have mentioned. Not to mention, having current players vouch for him is what is selling players to joining the team, we just spent $200MM in new contracts while having presumably "no" cap space. Every single team has space if they want to make it. DG showed his ability to assess talent prior to Judge. It wasn't pretty. We should all be thankful for Judge and the change he's created. He's doing it in an organization that exhibits cronyism to its fullest extent. Quite the feat Mr Judge. Well doneHe's a 6-10 coach. It's the money they came for.
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Post by Sarcasman on Mar 28, 2021 10:51:39 GMT -5
so who are last season 10 losses on? Judge or Dave who's team is it? Oh wait.....I used the dreaded word "team". look it up and see what it means. Clearly those loses were on Dave. Our 6 wins last year were due to Judge though lol.
I feel like a freak since I like both Judge and Gettleman. Is something wrong with me that I like and support both the HC and GM of my favorite team?
Yes. You are clearly part of the deranged 90% majority.
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Post by thetruth on Mar 28, 2021 10:53:24 GMT -5
Well, he needed Kevin Abrams to actually structure every deal. Considering, he's not a big believer in backloading deals which he said is as many words but a few weeks ago. New players want to play here because they believe in Judge and what he preaches, that has been a constant that they all have mentioned. Not to mention, having current players vouch for him is what is selling players to joining the team, we just spent $200MM in new contracts while having presumably "no" cap space. Every single team has space if they want to make it. DG showed his ability to assess talent prior to Judge. It wasn't pretty. We should all be thankful for Judge and the change he's created. He's doing it in an organization that exhibits cronyism to its fullest extent. Quite the feat Mr Judge. Well doneHe's a 6-10 coach. It's the money they came for. Dave Gettlemens first 3 seasons have as many W's as JR's 3 worst. Such a great fact. If it weren't for Judge and his plan FA's wouldn't sniff this org. A losing culture established by Gettlemen and his "miscalculations" Every team has cap space. The players have to want it. Difference between the Soldiers and Omamehs to the Gollodays and Adoree's is Judge.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 28, 2021 11:02:06 GMT -5
He's a 6-10 coach. It's the money they came for. Dave Gettlemens first 3 seasons have as many W's as JR's 3 worst. Such a great fact. If it weren't for Judge and his plan FA's wouldn't sniff this org. A losing culture established by Gettlemen and his "miscalculations" Every team has cap space. The players have to want it. Difference between the Soldiers and Omamehs to the Gollodays and Adoree's is Judge. This makes no sense. Solder was the best available OT in his free agent class. Golladay was the best available WR in his class. Omameh was a top 5 Guard in his free agent class. Adoree Jackson was a top 5 player at his position in this year's free agency. The common denominator is Dave Gettleman
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Post by McCherry on Mar 28, 2021 11:03:09 GMT -5
He's a 6-10 coach. It's the money they came for. Dave Gettlemens first 3 seasons have as many W's as JR's 3 worst. Such a great fact. If it weren't for Judge and his plan FA's wouldn't sniff this org. A losing culture established by Gettlemen and his "miscalculations" Every team has cap space. The players have to want it. Difference between the Soldiers and Omamehs to the Gollodays and Adoree's is Judge. Yeah, more money than any other team offered. The Giants have always landed top free agents, even under McAdoo.
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Post by Sarcasman on Mar 28, 2021 11:20:24 GMT -5
At the end of the day your company may have the best manager in the state, but if the head of HR doesn't like your resume you will never be offered an interview Think about it. Rosie a few weeks encouraged the lurkers to join the site. Who wants to join this nincompoop show? It is comical in a bazar way. The manager of the site wants new members and one of his mods posts the same ridiculously themed thread over and over and over again. It is really funny. Yeah, Rosie.....you’re doing an absolutely awful job of hosting a site where every poster thinks and feels exactly the same way.
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Post by Morehead State on Mar 28, 2021 11:35:37 GMT -5
Dave Gettlemens first 3 seasons have as many W's as JR's 3 worst. Such a great fact. If it weren't for Judge and his plan FA's wouldn't sniff this org. A losing culture established by Gettlemen and his "miscalculations" Every team has cap space. The players have to want it. Difference between the Soldiers and Omamehs to the Gollodays and Adoree's is Judge. This makes no sense. Solder was the best available OT in his free agent class. Golladay was the best available WR in his class. Omameh was a top 5 Guard in his free agent class. Adoree Jackson was a top 5 player at his position in this year's free agency. The common denominator is Dave Gettleman Yet he's 15-33. Isn't the point of all of this to win football games?
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Post by Morehead State on Mar 28, 2021 11:36:50 GMT -5
Think about it. Rosie a few weeks encouraged the lurkers to join the site. Who wants to join this nincompoop show? It is comical in a bazar way. The manager of the site wants new members and one of his mods posts the same ridiculously themed thread over and over and over again. It is really funny. Yeah, Rosie.....you’re doing an absolutely awful job of hosting a site where every poster thinks and feels exactly the same way. I assume TEM is talking about you with your ridiculous posts.
I've always said you were a bad seed.
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Post by dvision on Mar 28, 2021 12:35:31 GMT -5
Well, he needed Kevin Abrams to actually structure every deal. Considering, he's not a big believer in backloading deals which he said is as many words but a few weeks ago. New players want to play here because they believe in Judge and what he preaches, that has been a constant that they all have mentioned. Not to mention, having current players vouch for him is what is selling players to joining the team, we just spent $200MM in new contracts while having presumably "no" cap space. Every single team has space if they want to make it. DG showed his ability to assess talent prior to Judge. It wasn't pretty. We should all be thankful for Judge and the change he's created. He's doing it in an organization that exhibits cronyism to its fullest extent. Quite the feat Mr Judge. Well doneHe's a 6-10 coach. It's the money they came for. Can it not be both? Rudolph claimed to have 10+ offers.
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Post by TEM on Mar 28, 2021 12:40:52 GMT -5
Think about it. Rosie a few weeks encouraged the lurkers to join the site. Who wants to join this nincompoop show? It is comical in a bazar way. The manager of the site wants new members and one of his mods posts the same ridiculously themed thread over and over and over again. It is really funny. Yeah, Rosie.....you’re doing an absolutely awful job of hosting a site where every poster thinks and feels exactly the same way. Sounds like I hit a nerve with someone. For one thing this nothing to do with Rosie. Where you got that from is beyond me. For a moderator (you) to be so pro "Everyone is entitled to their opinion". Unless you disagree with it . Then it is not entitled. Interesting.
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Post by McCherry on Mar 28, 2021 12:41:29 GMT -5
He's a 6-10 coach. It's the money they came for. Can it not be both? Rudolph claimed to have 10+ offers. It can, but you can't do it without the money. You can do it without the good coach. You think free agents were blown away by McAdoo's vision in 2016?
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Post by TEM on Mar 28, 2021 12:44:31 GMT -5
Yeah, Rosie.....you’re doing an absolutely awful job of hosting a site where every poster thinks and feels exactly the same way. I assume TEM is talking about you with your ridiculous posts.
I've always said you were a bad seed.
You got that wrong.
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Post by McCherry on Mar 28, 2021 12:44:36 GMT -5
This makes no sense. Solder was the best available OT in his free agent class. Golladay was the best available WR in his class. Omameh was a top 5 Guard in his free agent class. Adoree Jackson was a top 5 player at his position in this year's free agency. The common denominator is Dave Gettleman Yet he's 15-33. Isn't the point of all of this to win football games? Judge is 6-10. You can't assign the record completely on Dave while excusing the coach as some kind of genius.
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Post by TEM on Mar 28, 2021 12:55:40 GMT -5
Yet he's 15-33. Isn't the point of all of this to win football games? Judge is 6-10. You can't assign the record completely on Dave while excusing the coach as some kind of genius. If you go by his standards . He claimed Judge built last years team also. So it should be Dave at 9-22 30 percent win total Judge is 6-10. That is 31% By his logic the GM lost all of his power because of 1% And I am chastised for comparing the board to a nincompoop show. Can't make the S### up.
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Post by Roswell on Mar 28, 2021 13:15:37 GMT -5
He's a 6-10 coach. It's the money they came for. Dave Gettlemens first 3 seasons have as many W's as JR's 3 worst. Such a great fact. If it weren't for Judge and his plan FA's wouldn't sniff this org. A losing culture established by Gettlemen and his "miscalculations" Every team has cap space. The players have to want it. Difference between the Soldiers and Omamehs to the Gollodays and Adoree's is Judge. Yes. More facts in a vacuum. Reese inherited a very good team with a franchise QB in place. DG inherited a complete mess, in large part due to a horrendous final 5 years complements of Reese.
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Post by Morehead State on Mar 28, 2021 13:35:06 GMT -5
Yeah, Rosie.....you’re doing an absolutely awful job of hosting a site where every poster thinks and feels exactly the same way. Sounds like I hit a nerve with someone. For one thing this nothing to do with Rosie. Where you got that from is beyond me. For a moderator (you) to be so pro "Everyone is entitled to their opinion". Unless you disagree with it . Then it is not entitled. Interesting. Wait...You really WERE talking about Sarc?
Hahahaha!!!!!!
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Post by Morehead State on Mar 28, 2021 13:36:03 GMT -5
Yet he's 15-33. Isn't the point of all of this to win football games? Judge is 6-10. You can't assign the record completely on Dave while excusing the coach as some kind of genius. Well he did have to coach a team with Dave's crappy players.......
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Post by Speedman on Mar 28, 2021 13:36:05 GMT -5
Yet he's 15-33. Isn't the point of all of this to win football games? Judge is 6-10. You can't assign the record completely on Dave while excusing the coach as some kind of genius. Why would you bring logic into the conversation?
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Post by Morehead State on Mar 28, 2021 13:37:05 GMT -5
Judge is 6-10. You can't assign the record completely on Dave while excusing the coach as some kind of genius. Why would you bring logic into the conversation? Right...That's the big problem with this team....Joe Judge.
Good one.
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Post by Speedman on Mar 28, 2021 13:40:09 GMT -5
Why would you bring logic into the conversation? Right...That's the big problem with this team....Joe Judge.
Good one.
Last year Joe’s players were brought in the same as this year. I know that you would like to have it both ways to make DG look bad but it doesn’t work that way.
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Post by TEM on Mar 28, 2021 13:50:25 GMT -5
Sounds like I hit a nerve with someone. For one thing this nothing to do with Rosie. Where you got that from is beyond me. For a moderator (you) to be so pro "Everyone is entitled to their opinion". Unless you disagree with it . Then it is not entitled. Interesting. Wait...You really WERE talking about Sarc?
Hahahaha!!!!!!
No it was not about him. In fact my new sig is dedicated to the direction one the mods is pushing the site to.
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Post by McCherry on Mar 28, 2021 13:50:42 GMT -5
Judge is 6-10. You can't assign the record completely on Dave while excusing the coach as some kind of genius. Well he did have to coach a team with Dave's crappy players....... The players were good enough to outplay 9 opponents but Judge lost 3 of them. And Daniel Jones was a rising star before Judge came along.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 28, 2021 15:00:57 GMT -5
I want to see more from Judge before we give him more credit than he deserves, I haven't seen enough yet so I'll hold my opinion...
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Post by Sarcasman on Mar 28, 2021 15:33:46 GMT -5
Yeah, Rosie.....you’re doing an absolutely awful job of hosting a site where every poster thinks and feels exactly the same way. Sounds like I hit a nerve with someone. For one thing this nothing to do with Rosie. Where you got that from is beyond me. For a moderator (you) to be so pro "Everyone is entitled to their opinion". Unless you disagree with it . Then it is not entitled. Interesting. lol, hardly; lighten up Francis, it was a joke. No poster here is prohibited from airing their opinions as long as they remain civil to their fellow posters.
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Post by TEM on Mar 28, 2021 16:02:18 GMT -5
Sounds like I hit a nerve with someone. For one thing this nothing to do with Rosie. Where you got that from is beyond me. For a moderator (you) to be so pro "Everyone is entitled to their opinion". Unless you disagree with it . Then it is not entitled. Interesting. lol, hardly; lighten up Francis, it was a joke. No poster here is prohibited from airing their opinions as long as they remain civil to their fellow posters. I think I was light. I could have come back numerous ways. This is the way I see it. You can all sit back and let the mod make this place look like as I the say nincompoop show I find it funny because of the post you commented on. It is up to you 4 mods on how giants fans perceive the validity of the content of the site. There is a big difference between posting an opinion and posting facts that are false. I IMO: At some point the intelligent will get board with it and move to a site where the content will be more inline with reality.
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Post by Rangers13 on Mar 28, 2021 16:09:06 GMT -5
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Post by TEM on Mar 28, 2021 16:24:52 GMT -5
If he did not have faith in him. We would have moved on from him. I have faith in him also but, he still needs to have that A-ha moment when the game is on the line and the spotlight does not phase him.
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Post by Morehead State on Mar 28, 2021 17:28:54 GMT -5
Right...That's the big problem with this team....Joe Judge.
Good one.
Last year Joe’s players were brought in the same as this year. I know that you would like to have it both ways to make DG look bad but it doesn’t work that way. As I said, if Joe is 15-33 after three years....fire his ass.
You get more that one season. Three seasons is a trend.
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