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Post by Deleted on May 3, 2021 7:09:57 GMT -5
he was handed pretty much nothing, it does take time to rebuild a roster, but let’s not consider that all, right? I would like to add something if I may . The Giants as of right now have 10 picks for next years draft .A draft I might add far more rich with talent according to the talking heads. Hopefully, we won't have to waste them trading up for a QB |
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Post by Deleted on May 3, 2021 7:09:59 GMT -5
he was handed pretty much nothing, it does take time to rebuild a roster, but let’s not consider that all, right? I would like to add something if I may . The Giants as of right now have 10 picks for next years draft .A draft I might add far more rich with talent according to the talking heads. This waiting for next year needs to stop at some point but I see it's currently still alive and well.. |
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Post by Deleted on May 3, 2021 7:10:51 GMT -5
I would like to add something if I may . The Giants as of right now have 10 picks for next years draft .A draft I might add far more rich with talent according to the talking heads. This waiting for next year needs to stop at some point but I see it's currently still alive and well.. Lol....you are so precious. It's like you didn't even pay attention this off season and draft. They did a TON for THIS season. Do you just bitch to bitch? |
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Post by Fletch842 on May 3, 2021 7:23:22 GMT -5
I would like to add something if I may . The Giants as of right now have 10 picks for next years draft .A draft I might add far more rich with talent according to the talking heads. Hopefully, we won't have to waste them trading up for a QB I'm with you, but at least if we have to, we have the ammo for it |
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Post by Deleted on May 3, 2021 7:27:57 GMT -5
This waiting for next year needs to stop at some point but I see it's currently still alive and well.. Lol....you are so precious. It's like you didn't even pay attention this off season and draft. They did a TON for THIS season. Do you just bitch to bitch? Why can't you just let something go? You don't always have to be a jerk.. You follow me around and bash a lot of my responses because you don't like them while preaching that fans who aren't happy about the team should stop "raining on the parade" of those of you who think some magical things are going to happen this season.. I've stopped responding to you and your bullshit but you can't seem to do the same thing. I mean really get some class and just allow everyone to have an opinion without your nasty little remarks.. For the record my comment is very true that some of the praise being given about this draft is about next season due to them gathering draft picks for some imaginary better draft that is coming.. This is like GOT except it's not the winter that is coming it's the draft.. I'm not interested in next years "awesome" draft but about this year putting a solid team on the field.. I think they messed up trusting this oline personnel and it will be a few months we can see how true that is.. |
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Post by Deleted on May 3, 2021 7:31:48 GMT -5
This waiting for next year needs to stop at some point but I see it's currently still alive and well.. Not the point. There are a few who seem to point out the negative of DG all the time I just wanted to point out a positive that while doing a good job in this years draft all so put the Giants in a good position for next years draft. You are the only one who's now looking forward to this made up "awesome" draft in 2022 while making this draft seem much better because of gathering the extra picks.. I would rather they used the capital for this years team which is currently in need of some better talent.. But hey if things don't work out again they have a lot of picks for next year!! Yeah team.. |
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Post by Deleted on May 3, 2021 7:35:27 GMT -5
Lol....you are so precious. It's like you didn't even pay attention this off season and draft. They did a TON for THIS season. Do you just bitch to bitch? Why can't you just let something go? You don't always have to be a jerk.. You follow me around and bash a lot of my responses because you don't like them while preaching that fans who aren't happy about the team should stop "raining on the parade" of those of you who think some magical things are going to happen this season.. I've stopped responding to you and your bullshit but you can't seem to do the same thing. I mean really get some class and just allow everyone to have an opinion without your nasty little remarks.. For the record my comment is very true that some of the praise being given about this draft is about next season due to them gathering draft picks for some imaginary better draft that is coming.. This is like GOT except it's not the winter that is coming it's the draft.. I'm not interested in next years "awesome" draft but about this year putting a solid team on the field.. I think they messed up trusting this oline personnel and it will be a few months we can see how true that is.. Lol...I don't follow you around. You're not that interesting. But when I come accross one of your sillier posts I respond to it. I didn't realize a little ball busting would hurt you so. I guess you could put me on ignore since I say such mean things to you. Good Lord you are a sensitive one for being such a big mouth on here. The point you are missing is that they not only did do some great things for next season, but the also did some great things for this season. It is possible and acceptable to compliment BOTH. It's been a long time since we could be happy for an entire offseason. So, your statement was silly. If you want relief from me commenting on your posts, put me on ignore or stop saying silly things. I haven't crossed any lines with the mods. Is this what it looks like to stop responding to me? |
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Post by Deleted on May 3, 2021 7:37:08 GMT -5
Not the point. There are a few who seem to point out the negative of DG all the time I just wanted to point out a positive that while doing a good job in this years draft all so put the Giants in a good position for next years draft. You are the only one who's now looking forward to this made up "awesome" draft in 2022 while making this draft seem much better because of gathering the extra picks.. I would rather they used the capital for this years team which is currently in need of some better talent.. But hey if things don't work out again they have a lot of picks for next year!! Yeah team.. Right. Next seasons picks is the ONLY thing they accomplished. It's just silly to insist that. They did great things for BOTH seasons. You whine just to hear yourself whine |
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Post by BlueReign on May 3, 2021 7:43:04 GMT -5
Gettleman had a great offseason, a few in a row in fact. At this point, I think he's had adequate time to clean up what Reese and co. left behind and it's time to start seeing these good offeseasons translate into wins.
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Post by Deleted on May 3, 2021 7:45:48 GMT -5
Gettleman had a great offseason, a few in a row in fact. At this point, I think he's had adequate time to clean up what Reese and co. left behind and it's time to start seeing these good offeseasons translate into wins. Agreed. |
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Post by Deleted on May 3, 2021 7:46:06 GMT -5
Why can't you just let something go? You don't always have to be a jerk.. You follow me around and bash a lot of my responses because you don't like them while preaching that fans who aren't happy about the team should stop "raining on the parade" of those of you who think some magical things are going to happen this season.. I've stopped responding to you and your bullshit but you can't seem to do the same thing. I mean really get some class and just allow everyone to have an opinion without your nasty little remarks.. For the record my comment is very true that some of the praise being given about this draft is about next season due to them gathering draft picks for some imaginary better draft that is coming.. This is like GOT except it's not the winter that is coming it's the draft.. I'm not interested in next years "awesome" draft but about this year putting a solid team on the field.. I think they messed up trusting this oline personnel and it will be a few months we can see how true that is.. Lol...I don't follow you around. You're not that interesting. But when I come accross one of your sillier posts I respond to it. I didn't realize a little ball busting would hurt you so. I guess you could put me on ignore since I say such mean things to you. Good Lord you are a sensitive one for being such a big mouth on here. The point you are missing is that they not only did do some great things for next season, but the also dod some grwat things for this season. It is possible and acceptable to compliment BOTH. It's been a long time since we cpuld be happy for an entire offseason. So, your statement was silly. So if you want relief from me commenting on your posts, put me on ignore or stop saying silly things. I haven't crossed any lines with the mods. Is this what it looks like to stop responding to me? So you don't have any class.. I also didn't know that the mods are the ones who determine this declaration so good luck with that.. Either way thanks for the confirmation and by all means please continue making your nasty remarks to all the fans out here who aren't following your rainbow to another losing season.. What a "*****".. lol |
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Post by Deleted on May 3, 2021 7:46:57 GMT -5
Lol...I don't follow you around. You're not that interesting. But when I come accross one of your sillier posts I respond to it. I didn't realize a little ball busting would hurt you so. I guess you could put me on ignore since I say such mean things to you. Good Lord you are a sensitive one for being such a big mouth on here. The point you are missing is that they not only did do some great things for next season, but the also dod some grwat things for this season. It is possible and acceptable to compliment BOTH. It's been a long time since we cpuld be happy for an entire offseason. So, your statement was silly. So if you want relief from me commenting on your posts, put me on ignore or stop saying silly things. I haven't crossed any lines with the mods. Is this what it looks like to stop responding to me? So you don't have any class.. I also didn't know that the mods are the ones who determine this declaration so good luck with that.. Either way thanks for the confirmation and by all means please continue making your nasty remarks to all the fans out here who aren't following your rainbow to another losing season.. What a "*****".. lol Waaa. So, it's confusing to you that the mods set the rules on the board? You're really not very good at interneting. |
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Post by BlueReign on May 3, 2021 7:47:42 GMT -5
Gettleman had a great offseason, a few in a row in fact. At this point, I think he's had adequate time to clean up what Reese and co. left behind and it's time to start seeing these good offeseasons translate into wins. Agreed. I always felt that DG got a bad rap because of how bad the Giants have been since 2011. A lot of his moves were viewed through the lens of Reese's failures and people began conflating their tenures. |
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on May 3, 2021 7:49:06 GMT -5
Probably, but if the team starts 1-3 again, it's going to be Joe Judge's ass on the crosshairs. If we lose this year after going crazy in free agency...Joe ass SHOULD be in the crosshairs.
We mortgaged our future to win THIS year....and we better had.
Your right him and Gettlemen will be on the fryer. But they learned from there mistakes in structuring contracts from the last time there is a 2 years period where the cap might be tight it might only be next year if they get all the way back to normal. |
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Post by Deleted on May 3, 2021 7:51:36 GMT -5
I always felt that DG got a bad rap because of how bad the Giants have been since 2011. A lot of his moves were viewed through the lens of Reese's failures and people began conflating their tenures. We all hate losing and it's been going on for so long people get impatient and ignore reality. They want immediate results despite the dumpster fire Dave inherited. So every mistake he makes gets amplified and every good thing he does is shit on. Fans are dumb. That's why we aren't in charge of anything |
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Post by BlueReign on May 3, 2021 7:58:07 GMT -5
I always felt that DG got a bad rap because of how bad the Giants have been since 2011. A lot of his moves were viewed through the lens of Reese's failures and people began conflating their tenures. We all hate losing and it's been going on for so long people get impatient and ignore reality. They want immediate results despite the dumpster fire Dave inherited. So every mistake he makes gets amplified and every good thing he does is shit on. Fans are dumb. That's why we aren't in charge of anything Bingo! |
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on May 3, 2021 7:59:20 GMT -5
I always felt that DG got a bad rap because of how bad the Giants have been since 2011. A lot of his moves were viewed through the lens of Reese's failures and people began conflating their tenures. I felt the same way the wheels started falling off mid 2012 that means probably the talent procurement issues probably started somewhere in the neighborhood of 2009 / 2010.It has been a long time since they were highly productive in both the draft and free agency. DGs first year he was working with what was left to him, the second year they had to finish up the tear down of the old infrastructure and keep rebuilding year 3 was a good team building year and this offseason seems as good or better and they are set up for the 2022 draft, if they are not turning the corner this year then it might be time for change, the draft picks have to produce and this free agent class needs to keep up with last years. This is not going to be easy the NFC east should be a dog fight with Dallas getting healthy Washington added talent and the Giants have added |
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on May 3, 2021 8:05:54 GMT -5
I always felt that DG got a bad rap because of how bad the Giants have been since 2011. A lot of his moves were viewed through the lens of Reese's failures and people began conflating their tenures. We all hate losing and it's been going on for so long people get impatient and ignore reality. They want immediate results despite the dumpster fire Dave inherited. So every mistake he makes gets amplified and every good thing he does is shit on. Fans are dumb. That's why we aren't in charge of anything As Dave said we put a lot of work into this it isn't a hobby, like we fans do with the draft guide and all that BS, making trades are not simple a good trade sometimes is good for both teams like the Bears coming up for Fields with us yes on the Johnson Chart they over paid, think they or their fans will care if Fields is the Arron Rodgers or Russel Wilson of the future. And the Giants should be happy they added an extra first and an extra 4th in next years highly regarded draft and a 5th this year. |
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Post by Deleted on May 3, 2021 8:08:07 GMT -5
We all hate losing and it's been going on for so long people get impatient and ignore reality. They want immediate results despite the dumpster fire Dave inherited. So every mistake he makes gets amplified and every good thing he does is shit on. Fans are dumb. That's why we aren't in charge of anything As Dave said we put a lot of work into this it isn't a hobby, like we fans do with the draft guide and all that BS, making trades are not simple a good trade sometimes is good for both teams like the Bears coming up for Fields with us yes on the Johnson Chart they over paid, think they or their fans will care if Fields is the Arron Rodgers or Russel Wilson of the future. And the Giants should be happy they added an extra first and an extra 4th in next years highly regarded draft and a 5th this year. Careful. Someone is going to be upset with your optimism about the future. |
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on May 3, 2021 8:20:35 GMT -5
As Dave said we put a lot of work into this it isn't a hobby, like we fans do with the draft guide and all that BS, making trades are not simple a good trade sometimes is good for both teams like the Bears coming up for Fields with us yes on the Johnson Chart they over paid, think they or their fans will care if Fields is the Arron Rodgers or Russel Wilson of the future. And the Giants should be happy they added an extra first and an extra 4th in next years highly regarded draft and a 5th this year. Careful. Someone is going to be upset with your optimism about the future. Those are the folks that put their dislike for the man before the team, The more years of mismanagement the more years of rehab and repair it will take fixing franchise isn't like flip the switch new guy it's all good lol. Lets keep talking common sense it's kind of fun . |
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Post by Deleted on May 3, 2021 8:22:12 GMT -5
Careful. Someone is going to be upset with your optimism about the future. Those are the folks that put their dislike for the man before the team, The more years of mismanagement the more years of rehab and repair it will take fixing franchise isn't like flip the switch new guy it's all good lol. Lets keep talking common sense it's kind of fun . I'll kick things off. "Another fan that's ok with losing" |
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on May 3, 2021 8:27:35 GMT -5
Those are the folks that put their dislike for the man before the team, The more years of mismanagement the more years of rehab and repair it will take fixing franchise isn't like flip the switch new guy it's all good lol. Lets keep talking common sense it's kind of fun . I'll kick things off. "Another fan that's ok with losing" lol nice |
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Post by IrishMike on May 3, 2021 13:44:08 GMT -5
Again....15-33 suggests you're wrong. 15-33 suggests that we stink/stunk. It's your opinion that keeping Eli instead of drafting Josh Rosen is the reason why. Do you honestly think if we drafted Josh Rosen instead of Barkley we would be better off? I think we would be looking for a new QB. |
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Post by SemperFi on May 4, 2021 14:00:46 GMT -5
Of course I claim otherwise, as has many more on this board who have pointed out to you that DG inherited a dog and pony show, that included one last hurrah by Mara for Eli. This, "we can still win" pipe dream, lost us a year of rebuilding. But of course you find it convenient to rigidly ignore that. I say our record has been 15-33 and you say....... "Of course I claim otherwise".
I would love to see this argument.
Please. You have the floor.
I see that parsing a paragraph not your strong point. There was more to my argument than the quote. However, I will add that many skilled people more knowledgable than either of us have given DG high marks for his overall performance to date. To insist otherwise is just dumb. |
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Post by TCHOF on May 4, 2021 14:12:15 GMT -5
I say our record has been 15-33 and you say....... "Of course I claim otherwise".
I would love to see this argument.
Please. You have the floor.
I see that parsing a paragraph not your strong point. There was more to my argument than the quote. However, I will add that many skilled people more knowledgable than either of us have given DG high marks for his overall performance to date. To insist otherwise is just dumb. Who has given him high marks on his overall performance to date? |
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Post by SemperFi on May 4, 2021 14:12:22 GMT -5
Not the point. There are a few who seem to point out the negative of DG all the time I just wanted to point out a positive that while doing a good job in this years draft all so put the Giants in a good position for next years draft. You are the only one who's now looking forward to this made up "awesome" draft in 2022 while making this draft seem much better because of gathering the extra picks.. I would rather they used the capital for this years team which is currently in need of some better talent.. But hey if things don't work out again they have a lot of picks for next year!! Yeah team.. Nope...don't assume. I'm looking froward to next year's draft as much as this season, bud! Next year we have a shot at winning it all if the cards fall right for us. You have every right to be negative but just be ready to take the shit! |
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Post by Deleted on May 4, 2021 14:23:54 GMT -5
You are the only one who's now looking forward to this made up "awesome" draft in 2022 while making this draft seem much better because of gathering the extra picks.. I would rather they used the capital for this years team which is currently in need of some better talent.. But hey if things don't work out again they have a lot of picks for next year!! Yeah team.. Nope...don't assume. I'm looking froward to next year's draft as much as this season, bud! Next year we have a shot at winning it all if the cards fall right for us. You have every right to be negative but just be ready to take the shit! Not concerned at all.. |
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Post by ocgiant on May 4, 2021 14:47:55 GMT -5
Safe to say there is now much more expectation for a winning season especially the fans this season
A big part of it hinges on how well DJ performs with all the improvements
Garrett needs to be creative and smart with the play calling now with this upgraded talent, it really should be exciting to watch
To me, the OL still is a question mark do the youngsters step up? Does Solder become more productive again? Fulton & Harrisson add vet experience and some depth both 29 years old. It looks like Hernandez is working hard this offseason. Still not sure it is enough? The HC and GM think so.
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Post by GameTime on May 4, 2021 15:18:54 GMT -5
Safe to say there is now much more expectation for a winning season especially the fans this season A big part of it hinges on how well DJ performs with all the improvements Garrett needs to be creative and smart with the play calling now with this upgraded talent, it really should be exciting to watch To me, the OL still is a question mark do the youngsters step up? Does Solder become more productive again? Fulton & Harrisson add vet experience and some depth both 29 years old. It looks like Hernandez is working hard this offseason. Still not sure it is enough? The HC and GM think so. this |
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Post by snyder55 on May 4, 2021 15:41:48 GMT -5
How? By having the worst record by any GM in our history?
Nobody cares about Pat Shurmer's record anymore... It's Joe Judge's QB, it's his offensive line, receivers and defense. There’s no more crying "Dave" if they can't figure out how to put the ball in the end zone with Golloday, Toney, Barkley, Rudolph etc. We all love Joe so far, but you'll see how fast that love affair ends after a 1-3 start. I think this team has the talent to win enough games to play respectable football and be competitive on Sunday and thats really all I ask, playoffs and SBs are just ice cream on the cake... |
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