Let’s Keep An Eye on Toney For A Couple Weeks….

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So I know what some of your feelings are when I tell you guys about the things my son tells me, but I value his opinion and I feel he knows what he’s talking about considering he played and he pays way more attention than I would like to. But he says give it a couple more weeks and let’s see what Toney has to say. That’s right, he said eventually he will spill the beans. Everybody is looking at that Golladay meltdown and wants to know exactly what’s up. If he lies about it or shuts up about it, won’t make a difference. My son said we saw Toney’s personality during preseason. He likes to tweet. He likes to put himself out there. How he handled the media….everything. The kid loves to talk. Not saying arrogance or selfishness has anything to do with it in the least bit. But a first rounder with his personality and confidence who loves to talk during preseason….imagine what he’s going to act like when things really get bad and shit hits the fan. This kid is gonna call everybody out and he’s not going to give one damn shit. We will know shortly exactly where the problems lay on this team and frankly, I want him to say whatever the **** he wants because I want the truth. And he’s going to tell it too. I believe that we will see him compare his old coaches to the ones he has now. I believe he is going to bitch about his playing time and how many times he is targeted. Good! Let him! We don’t draft first rounders to sit the ****ing bench.

[TEM]

I do not want internal player contention to be aired into the public domain .Keep that in house. You want to kill a team take that inside the locker room and  make unneeded drama.

[Kruunch]

Great, another football scholar who played. Look, Toney so far is an unknown. If he has any resemblance of a brain in that tin can head of his. He will do his job, and not say anything. Rookies, should be seen not heard..

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Sept 17, 2021 15:46:54 GMT -5 Kruunch said:

Great, another football scholar who played. Look, Toney so far is an unknown. If he has any resemblance of a brain in that tin can head of his. He will do his job, and not say anything. Rookies, should be seen not heard..

What’s wrong with that? I didn’t say he is an expert. He knows more than me. No need for insults. Just telling you what might and very well will happen.

[Blue Hulk]

You should just have your son join the forum. Less typing for you



Nothing brings a family closer than arguing about how bad the Giants suck

[Martin]

Sept 17, 2021 15:46:54 GMT -5 Kruunch said:

Great, another football scholar who played. Look, Toney so far is an unknown. If he has any resemblance of a brain in that tin can head of his. He will do his job, and not say anything. Rookies, should be seen not heard..

  IF we lose against Atlanta the Giants will be headed into soap opera territory. The OP about how this could get ugly is true. The entertainment won't be on the field it will be social media and the talking heads. It takes 10 years to rebuild a team? Disgusting!  

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Sept 17, 2021 15:42:18 GMT -5 TEM said:

I do not want internal player contention to be aired into the public domain .Keep that in house. You want to kill a team take that inside the locker room and  make unneeded drama.

Too late…Golladay is already pissed. Think for a second. A guy comes to our team from another. Solid player. Making 72mil right? Second game of the season….ONLY THE SECOND… he’s on the sideline raising Holy Hell and starting to get in faces. This is damn sure not about money. Football players know football. Coach is coach for a reason…BUT, you can’t tell a good football player much more than what he is willing to absorb. It doesn’t look to me like Golladay wants to lose. It looks like he wants to win and shit is gonna keep hitting the fan on the sidelines whether people want it or not. It is the frustration of a good football player recognizing a faulty system. This is only the tip of the iceberg.

[TEM]

Sept 17, 2021 15:51:58 GMT -5 @usmcvet said:

Sept 17, 2021 15:46:54 GMT -5 Kruunch said:

Great, another football scholar who played. Look, Toney so far is an unknown. If he has any resemblance of a brain in that tin can head of his. He will do his job, and not say anything. Rookies, should be seen not heard..

What’s wrong with that? I didn’t say he is an expert. He knows more than me. No need for insults. Just telling you what might and very well will happen.

If he has a need to run his mouth about internal team activities . I like Toney and I think he will be a good player. He needs to be removed from the team. No one is above the team. By doing what you believe he will makes him think he comes before the team. 

Me I do not think he will do as you say.

[Kruunch]

Sept 17, 2021 15:51:58 GMT -5 @usmcvet said:

Sept 17, 2021 15:46:54 GMT -5 Kruunch said:

Great, another football scholar who played. Look, Toney so far is an unknown. If he has any resemblance of a brain in that tin can head of his. He will do his job, and not say anything. Rookies, should be seen not heard..

What’s wrong with that? I didn’t say he is an expert. He knows more than me. No need for insults. Just telling you what might and very well will happen.

His opinion is no different then the guy who just sold me my beer. It’s all opinions based off what you saw. I never understood the part why fans have to emphasize they played the sport, so they understand what they’re seeing. It’s lame..

[TEM]

Sept 17, 2021 15:57:30 GMT -5 @usmcvet said:

Sept 17, 2021 15:42:18 GMT -5 TEM said:

I do not want internal player contention to be aired into the public domain .Keep that in house. You want to kill a team take that inside the locker room and  make unneeded drama.

Too late…Golladay is already pissed. Think for a second. A guy comes to our team from another. Solid player. Making 72mil right? Second game of the season….ONLY THE SECOND… he’s on the sideline raising Holy He’ll and starting to get in faces. This is damn sure not about money. Football players know football. Coach is coach for a reason…BUT, you can’t tell a good football player much more than what he is willing to absorb. It doesn’t look to me like Golladay wants to lose. It looks like he wants to win and shit is gonna keep hitting the fan on the sidelines whether people want it or not. It is the frustration of a good football player recognizing a faulty system. This is only the tip of the iceberg.

What did he say? Did he let the world hear his grievance today?  Tell us his gripe. Getting pissed on the sideline during the game is one thing . Bringing it out on social media is a completely different  animal.

[Kruunch]

Sept 17, 2021 16:00:55 GMT -5 TEM said:

Sept 17, 2021 15:57:30 GMT -5 @usmcvet said:

Too late…Golladay is already pissed. Think for a second. A guy comes to our team from another. Solid player. Making 72mil right? Second game of the season….ONLY THE SECOND… he’s on the sideline raising Holy He’ll and starting to get in faces. This is damn sure not about money. Football players know football. Coach is coach for a reason…BUT, you can’t tell a good football player much more than what he is willing to absorb. It doesn’t look to me like Golladay wants to lose. It looks like he wants to win and shit is gonna keep hitting the fan on the sidelines whether people want it or not. It is the frustration of a good football player recognizing a faulty system. This is only the tip of the iceberg.

What did he say? Did he let the world hear his grievance today?  Tell us his gripe. Getting pissed on the sideline during the game is one thing . Bringing it out on social media is a completely different  animal.

You’re wasting your time. Bypass the middle man, go to the source. What does his son think about Toney? 

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Sept 17, 2021 15:57:59 GMT -5 TEM said:

Sept 17, 2021 15:51:58 GMT -5 @usmcvet said:

What’s wrong with that? I didn’t say he is an expert. He knows more than me. No need for insults. Just telling you what might and very well will happen.

If he has a need to run his mouth about internal team activities . I like Toney and I think he will be a good player. He needs to be removed from the team. No one is above the team. By doing what you believe he will makes him think he comes before the team. 

Me I do not think he will do as you say.

Kids are kids…what do kids do when they get angry? They bitch. It’s nature. And we aren’t talking about selfishness or arrogance with this kid right now. We are talking about confidence. It’s been how many seasons now? How many losses? I don’t look at this like we have 2 losses. I’m pissed and I’m ok with it being aired out. It’s time.

[Sarcasman]

Sept 17, 2021 15:57:30 GMT -5 @usmcvet said:

Sept 17, 2021 15:42:18 GMT -5 TEM said:

I do not want internal player contention to be aired into the public domain .Keep that in house. You want to kill a team take that inside the locker room and  make unneeded drama.

Too late…Golladay is already pissed. Think for a second. A guy comes to our team from another. Solid player. Making 72mil right? Second game of the season….ONLY THE SECOND… he’s on the sideline raising Holy He’ll and starting to get in faces. This is damn sure not about money. Football players know football. Coach is coach for a reason…BUT, you can’t tell a good football player much more than what he is willing to absorb. It doesn’t look to me like Golladay wants to lose. It looks like he wants to win and shit is gonna keep hitting the fan on the sidelines whether people want it or not. It is the frustration of a good football player recognizing a faulty system. This is only the tip of the iceberg.

Golloday needs to grow up a little, that's all.  The last thing any team needs is a loudmouth under performer.  Catch the balls thrown your way, run your routes properly and lead by example.  Until you can do that, no one is interested in listening to you whine.  So far he just seems like Shockey without the couple of good seasons.

[snyder55]

after reading some of Toney's responses to the media i have to question his intelligence level, he talks like he played too many games without a helmet on...

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Sept 17, 2021 16:04:36 GMT -5 Sarcasman said:

Sept 17, 2021 15:57:30 GMT -5 @usmcvet said:

Too late…Golladay is already pissed. Think for a second. A guy comes to our team from another. Solid player. Making 72mil right? Second game of the season….ONLY THE SECOND… he’s on the sideline raising Holy He’ll and starting to get in faces. This is damn sure not about money. Football players know football. Coach is coach for a reason…BUT, you can’t tell a good football player much more than what he is willing to absorb. It doesn’t look to me like Golladay wants to lose. It looks like he wants to win and shit is gonna keep hitting the fan on the sidelines whether people want it or not. It is the frustration of a good football player recognizing a faulty system. This is only the tip of the iceberg.

Golloday needs to grow up a little, that's all.  The last thing any team needs is a loudmouth under performer.  Catch the balls thrown your way, run your routes properly and lead by example.  Until you can do that, no one is interested in listening to you whine.  So far he just seems like Shockey without the couple of good seasons.

You guys are all missing the point. He wasn’t an underperformer where he was at before. All of a sudden…..

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Sept 17, 2021 16:06:10 GMT -5 snyder55 said:

after reading some of Toney's responses to the media i have to question his intelligence level, he talks like he played too many games without a helmet on...

We know this already, not the point.

[TEM]

Sept 17, 2021 16:03:53 GMT -5 @usmcvet said:

Sept 17, 2021 15:57:59 GMT -5 TEM said:

If he has a need to run his mouth about internal team activities . I like Toney and I think he will be a good player. He needs to be removed from the team. No one is above the team. By doing what you believe he will makes him think he comes before the team. 

Me I do not think he will do as you say.

Kids are kids…what do kids do when they get angry? They bitch. It’s nature. And we aren’t talking about selfishness or arrogance with this kid right now. We are talking about confidence. It’s been how many seasons now? How many losses? I don’t look at this like we have 2 losses. I’m pissed and I’m ok with it being aired out. It’s time.

You are making a completely different point than I am 


I will make my point a bit more simple.  You do not defecate where you eat. Any player that does needs to be removed from the table. 

[ThatGuyRich]

Sept 17, 2021 15:55:55 GMT -5 Blue Hulk said:

You should just have your son join the forum. Less typing for you



Nothing brings a family closer than arguing about how bad the Giants suck

My family does this all the time. It does unite us. And then wait to the next week when we all scream at the TV again. When were all together it's like sitting in a rowdy section at Giant Stadium. Or whatever the hell the name of it is now.

[TEM]

Sept 17, 2021 16:06:55 GMT -5 @usmcvet said:

Sept 17, 2021 16:04:36 GMT -5 Sarcasman said:

Golloday needs to grow up a little, that's all.  The last thing any team needs is a loudmouth under performer.  Catch the balls thrown your way, run your routes properly and lead by example.  Until you can do that, no one is interested in listening to you whine.  So far he just seems like Shockey without the couple of good seasons.

You guys are all missing the point. He wasn’t an underperformer where he was at before. All of a sudden…..

So who's fault is him dropping the ball?  Did you not watch the game?  They were on his hands.

[Deleted]

Sept 17, 2021 16:07:40 GMT -5 TEM said:

Sept 17, 2021 16:03:53 GMT -5 @usmcvet said:

Kids are kids…what do kids do when they get angry? They bitch. It’s nature. And we aren’t talking about selfishness or arrogance with this kid right now. We are talking about confidence. It’s been how many seasons now? How many losses? I don’t look at this like we have 2 losses. I’m pissed and I’m ok with it being aired out. It’s time.

You are making a completely different point than I am 


I will make my point a bit more simple.  You do not defecate where you eat. Any player that does needs to be removed from the table. 

I get that. I’m on to you. But we need to hear these guys. Even if it isn’t Toney and it’s Golladay instead, let it rip. We sit here on this board speculating every day like average fans. These guys deal with the incompetence of this management every single ****ing day. Like I said, I see good football players on this team, something isn’t right and it’s time to blow it up.

[Sarcasman]

Sept 17, 2021 16:06:10 GMT -5 snyder55 said:

after reading some of Toney's responses to the media i have to question his intelligence level, he talks like he played too many games without a helmet on...

Or even any games at a professional level at all.  

[Deleted]

Sept 17, 2021 16:09:54 GMT -5 TEM said:

Sept 17, 2021 16:06:55 GMT -5 @usmcvet said:

You guys are all missing the point. He wasn’t an underperformer where he was at before. All of a sudden…..

So who's fault is him dropping the ball?  Did you not watch the game?  They were on his hands.

Not an excuse…but I will say Judge had no business taking the whole preseason away from some of these guys. Golladay looks just fine to me.

[bluebuddha]

Sept 17, 2021 16:04:36 GMT -5 Sarcasman said:

Sept 17, 2021 15:57:30 GMT -5 @usmcvet said:

Too late…Golladay is already pissed. Think for a second. A guy comes to our team from another. Solid player. Making 72mil right? Second game of the season….ONLY THE SECOND… he’s on the sideline raising Holy He’ll and starting to get in faces. This is damn sure not about money. Football players know football. Coach is coach for a reason…BUT, you can’t tell a good football player much more than what he is willing to absorb. It doesn’t look to me like Golladay wants to lose. It looks like he wants to win and shit is gonna keep hitting the fan on the sidelines whether people want it or not. It is the frustration of a good football player recognizing a faulty system. This is only the tip of the iceberg.

Golloday needs to grow up a little, that's all.  The last thing any team needs is a loudmouth under performer.  Catch the balls thrown your way, run your routes properly and lead by example.  Until you can do that, no one is interested in listening to you whine.  So far he just seems like Shockey without the couple of good seasons.

I agree. My only question is why does every WR on our team have the case of the drops outside of Shepard. Slayton, Engram now Golloday. Are the coaches doing something different here? It's an uncanny coincidence the new guy has drops also.

[Sarcasman]

Sept 17, 2021 16:06:55 GMT -5 @usmcvet said:

Sept 17, 2021 16:04:36 GMT -5 Sarcasman said:

Golloday needs to grow up a little, that's all.  The last thing any team needs is a loudmouth under performer.  Catch the balls thrown your way, run your routes properly and lead by example.  Until you can do that, no one is interested in listening to you whine.  So far he just seems like Shockey without the couple of good seasons.

You guys are all missing the point. He wasn’t an underperformer where he was at before. All of a sudden…..

 
Golloday was a star somewhere?  What league was that?  I'm not missing the point, I'm just rejecting it.

Stripes are earned not given and while I understand Hall of Fame whining is now considered as good as actually accomplishing things on the field, I'll stick with my belief that Golloday thus far has earned nothing.  He stopped an easy twenty years pass when the Giants needed it.   You wanna be a leader?  Lead by example, talk is cheap.

[Kruunch]

Let’s not keep an eye on him too long. He might pull a hammy. Or worse, make another song.

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Sept 17, 2021 16:13:41 GMT -5 bluebuddha said:

Sept 17, 2021 16:04:36 GMT -5 Sarcasman said:

Golloday needs to grow up a little, that's all.  The last thing any team needs is a loudmouth under performer.  Catch the balls thrown your way, run your routes properly and lead by example.  Until you can do that, no one is interested in listening to you whine.  So far he just seems like Shockey without the couple of good seasons.

I agree. My only question is why does every WR on our team have the case of the drops outside of Shepard. Slayton, Engram now Golloday. Are the coaches doing something different here? It's an uncanny coincidence the new guy has drops also.

Now you’re cooking with gas.

[Deleted]

Na

[Deleted]

Sept 17, 2021 16:16:09 GMT -5 Sarcasman said:

Sept 17, 2021 16:06:55 GMT -5 @usmcvet said:

You guys are all missing the point. He wasn’t an underperformer where he was at before. All of a sudden…..

 
Golloday was a star somewhere?  What league was that?  I'm not missing the point, I'm just rejecting it.

Stripes are earned not given and while I understand Hall of Fame whining is now considered as good as actually accomplishing things on the field, I'll stick with my belief that Golloday thus far has earned nothing.  He stopped an easy twenty years pass when the Giants needed it.   You wanna be a leader?  Lead by example, talk is cheap.

He was a good WR in Detroit. Are you just dismissing it because of injury or what? He’s not hollering on the sideline for no reason. He’s not mad because there’s no ice for the Gatorade.

[Sarcasman]

Sept 17, 2021 16:10:56 GMT -5 @usmcvet said:

Sept 17, 2021 16:07:40 GMT -5 TEM said:

You are making a completely different point than I am 


I will make my point a bit more simple.  You do not defecate where you eat. Any player that does needs to be removed from the table. 

I get that. I’m on to you. But we need to hear these guys. Even if it isn’t Toney and it’s Golladay instead, let it rip. We sit here on this board speculating every day like average fans. These guys deal with the incompetence of this management every single ****ing day. Like I said, I see good football players on this team, something isn’t right and it’s time to blow it up.

That's interesting.  And here I thought management was dealing with the incompetence of the players every single day.  I didn't see any coaches give up TDs on two plays, drop wide open TDs that hit them in the hands, drop long passes that hit them right in the hands or get caught holding on a long TD run.  

Every single one of those colossal failures was made by a player.

[Sarcasman]

Sept 17, 2021 16:21:59 GMT -5 @usmcvet said:

Sept 17, 2021 16:16:09 GMT -5 Sarcasman said:

 
Golloday was a star somewhere?  What league was that?  I'm not missing the point, I'm just rejecting it.

Stripes are earned not given and while I understand Hall of Fame whining is now considered as good as actually accomplishing things on the field, I'll stick with my belief that Golloday thus far has earned nothing.  He stopped an easy twenty years pass when the Giants needed it.   You wanna be a leader?  Lead by example, talk is cheap.

He was a good WR in Detroit. Are you just dismissing it because of injury or what? He’s not hollering on the sideline for no reason. He’s not mad because there’s no ice for the Gatorade.

He was good, I agree with that.  I could not care less what he was hollering on the sideline about.  I can only hope he was venting his frustration at his own mistakes that were costing the team.  But I don't think so that would take a level of maturity that I do not believe he possesses yet.