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Post by Fletch842 on Jun 12, 2022 3:17:44 GMT -5
Very disappointing way for the season to end. Go Av's, F the Rays, or Bucs, whatever POS team from Tampa it is...
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Post by TEM on Jun 12, 2022 8:02:28 GMT -5
A great run this year.
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Post by EliQB10 on Jun 12, 2022 9:07:45 GMT -5
What are everyone’s feelings about GG? I think he is a good coach overall but he was definitely outcoached by Cooper and his decision to scratch Kakko and play a hobbled Strome are questionable to say the least…Strome was the weak link on tbe ice when Stamkos scored his first goal
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Post by Rangers13 on Jun 12, 2022 9:17:45 GMT -5
What are everyone’s feelings about GG? I think he is a good coach overall but he was definitely outcoached by Cooper and his decision to scratch Kakko and play a hobbled Strome are questionable to say the least…Strome was the weak link on tbe ice when Stamkos scored his first goal We need to know what was up with the Kakko scratch. Otherwise, he took the youngest team to the Eastern Conference Finals. Can’t say he was outcoached imo.
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Post by Rangers13 on Jun 12, 2022 9:20:19 GMT -5
not touching a 36 yr old Malkin. That’s a mistake, does Perry seem like a bad add for Tampa. We are close, we need guys who can improve our 5 on 5 game. Perry makes $1 million.
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Post by EliQB10 on Jun 12, 2022 9:39:56 GMT -5
What are everyone’s feelings about GG? I think he is a good coach overall but he was definitely outcoached by Cooper and his decision to scratch Kakko and play a hobbled Strome are questionable to say the least…Strome was the weak link on tbe ice when Stamkos scored his first goal You’re right GG deserves credit for taking this kids to the ECF…add coupe more key pieces and we will be a force to be rekoned with for years
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Post by ThatGuyRich on Jun 12, 2022 9:48:27 GMT -5
I was in the middle of typing that Vatrano's goal really didn't get me excited because we've show a tendency to give up goals against this team late... LOL... couldn't even get it posted before we did just that. Goalie standing on his head all game to keep us in it ... Offense stagnant.
Offense finally does something.. and Igor can't hold onto the puck. That sums it up in a nut shell. These are the 2 best goalies in the league. That Ranger offense just can't score 5 on 5. Igor comes up even bigger in big games. I thought that Trouba (sorry if I spelled his name wrong) played a great game. I thought he was a one man gang. Tough losses against a team that has just reached Dynasty status imo. Going to 3 straight finals allows them to have that title imo. But this was a great jump forward for this Ranger team. They must find offense from somewhere. 2 scorers that can fit their scheme I would think. Don't ask me how ? Just obvious what is keeping them from reaching finals and winning the cup.
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Post by roundabout on Jun 12, 2022 11:19:30 GMT -5
I was in the middle of typing that Vatrano's goal really didn't get me excited because we've show a tendency to give up goals against this team late... LOL... couldn't even get it posted before we did just that. Goalie standing on his head all game to keep us in it ... Offense stagnant.
Offense finally does something.. and Igor can't hold onto the puck. That sums it up in a nut shell. These are the 2 best goalies in the league. That Ranger offense just can't score 5 on 5. Igor comes up even bigger in big games. I thought that Trouba (sorry if I spelled his name wrong) played a great game. I thought he was a one man gang. Tough losses against a team that has just reached Dynasty status imo. Going to 3 straight finals allows them to have that title imo. But this was a great jump forward for this Ranger team. They must find offense from somewhere. 2 scorers that can fit their scheme I would think. Don't ask me how ? Just obvious what is keeping them from reaching finals and winning the cup. Tampa is one series away from a 3peat Which I would consider a dynasty.That said It's remarkable the Islanders of the 80's won 19 straight playoff series,A record that will probably never be broken
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Post by Sarcasman on Jun 12, 2022 12:38:48 GMT -5
I don't understand the TB hate, I'm not happy they beat the Rangers but they did beat the Rangers. I have no connection to Colorado either so I honestly don't give a crap who wins but I'm sure not rooting against the Bolts. They're a damn good team.
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Post by Rangers13 on Jun 12, 2022 14:55:12 GMT -5
We should be happy and debating who the #2 Center will be next season. Will Nils be promoted, Cullye, etc? Instead, we have this cloud of Kakko uncertainty.
Still incredibly young and we have a cloud which reminds me of the Kravtsov cloud, Lias cloud and how TDA was handled.
Smh
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Post by ovidius on Jun 13, 2022 16:56:24 GMT -5
I don't understand the TB hate, I'm not happy they beat the Rangers but they did beat the Rangers. I have no connection to Colorado either so I honestly don't give a crap who wins but I'm sure not rooting against the Bolts. They're a damn good team. Off the top of my head: Beat us twice in the ECF, and despite my frustration with how my team played I dislike the team that beats us no matter who it is and hope they lose Two of our captains went there, Callahan and McDonugh Other ex-players have gone there as well Valid reasons? Maybe, maybe not but I literally have no dislike for Colorado at all, unlike Tampa. I generally want western teams to beat eastern ones in the Stanley Cup.
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Post by Sarcasman on Jun 13, 2022 17:48:01 GMT -5
I don't understand the TB hate, I'm not happy they beat the Rangers but they did beat the Rangers. I have no connection to Colorado either so I honestly don't give a crap who wins but I'm sure not rooting against the Bolts. They're a damn good team. Off the top of my head: Beat us twice in the ECF, and despite my frustration with how my team played I dislike the team that beats us no matter who it is and hope they lose Two of our captains went there, Callahan and McDonugh Other ex-players have gone there as well Valid reasons? Maybe, maybe not but I literally have no dislike for Colorado at all, unlike Tampa. I generally want western teams to beat eastern ones in the Stanley Cup. Fair enough!
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Post by Fletch842 on Jun 14, 2022 5:28:57 GMT -5
I don't understand the TB hate, I'm not happy they beat the Rangers but they did beat the Rangers. I have no connection to Colorado either so I honestly don't give a crap who wins but I'm sure not rooting against the Bolts. They're a damn good team. Off the top of my head: Beat us twice in the ECF, and despite my frustration with how my team played I dislike the team that beats us no matter who it is and hope they lose Two of our captains went there, Callahan and McDonugh Other ex-players have gone there as well Valid reasons? Maybe, maybe not but I literally have no dislike for Colorado at all, unlike Tampa. I generally want western teams to beat eastern ones in the Stanley Cup. Besides, what part of being a fan requires a valid reason anyway? I agree with everything you said!!
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Post by Rangers13 on Jun 14, 2022 7:25:14 GMT -5
That Kakko move is going to loom. GG did all the right things until he made a high risk gamble and it blew up. Basically went into a game 6 without two top six forwards. I know he wants to be more physical yet the team is what it is. Go down with who brought you there.
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Post by Rangers13 on Jun 14, 2022 9:24:12 GMT -5
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Post by giantlegacy on Jun 14, 2022 11:28:58 GMT -5
I don't understand the TB hate, I'm not happy they beat the Rangers but they did beat the Rangers. I have no connection to Colorado either so I honestly don't give a crap who wins but I'm sure not rooting against the Bolts. They're a damn good team. Envy? It's actually strange this team gets the hate it does and even when it was kinda irrelevant. There has always been a resentment about hockey down here by a bunch of condescending fans and media from northern cities...even as recently as 2016 when it was in discussions to move teams a holes wanted both Florida teams moved to a northern city. Contrary to a very loud ignorant minority Tampa for some reason latched on to this team,maybe because the Bucs were terrible in 92 and no baseball (and let's be honest,Tampa is a Florida Gator first town for football) They had upwards of 30K when they played in their first playoff series in 97 when they played games at the thunderdome. As long as I've lived here this is the only team that never had an attendance problem... He'll the rumors of the Lightning not allowing opposite teams fans from coming started in 2011 in that out of nowhere run when local Boston fans were shocked that they couldn't get tickets to the ECFs that year He'll the only time we see a major presence of opposing teams fans are in tbe winter when we get all the Canadian snow birds (except the past 3 years pandemic issues )because Habs fans are loaded and offer 2 to 3 times the actual cost of tickets t9 season ticket holders (He'll if you have a season plan that includes 2 Habs games you could make up a lot of the cost of your plan just with their games),and Rangers fans (see above) He'll the only playoff series I can remember where there was a ton of opponents fans was 2015 with Rangers fans (season ticket holders get first dibs of course then the general public..seems the Rangers fans down here literally got all the general fans tix that time ) Even when we had a low point between 2006 and 2011 that arena was packed.. So don't let the negative signal to noise ratio from fans that are butthurt Rangers fans still outnumber their own fans on the island even with a new arena or fans in crap northern towns Other than that I can't explain this misplaced resentment... Tampa is literally already in dynasty mode with 3 straight cup finals appeances,4 in 8 years with this group. An alltime great goalie and at least 3 other HOFers.. Now with the finals approaching Tampa somehow has rebuilt their 3rd line that was dominant the previous 2 years ... Getting Paul and Hagel at the trading deadline instead of what other teams did getting firepower to me reminds me of when the Rangers traded Gartner for Matteau,Noonan ..... Players that know how to play playoff hockey Interesting that I've been complaining about Kilorn being MIA scoring After Point's injury Cooper moves him back to the 3rd line....still doing all the other 3rd line things he did on the top lines... Actually they have a bunch of players that play smart fundamentally sound system hockey they have been mixing and matching all over their back 3 lines since Point's injury...so while they lost a major sniper for now they actually now can play 4 lines of players that are smart system players while getting chances with the Stamkos/Kucherov line being the deadly one When Point comes back they now go back to having 2 good top lines as Stamkos goes back to the 2nd line with Colton and Kilorn The major advantage Tampa has is Vasi.. Colorado even with their starting goalie was allowing a lot of goals in the playoffs... The way I see it keep your opponent under 3 goals you win 85% of the time, Vasi has let in (except games one and 2 last series)only 1 goal 70% of the time.. And even going back to the Oilers teams,those teams didn't start winning until they shored up their defense after getting schooled badly by the Islanders in 83... Colorado,just like the Rangers,needs a dose of what it's like to play against a sound team that cuts off the neutral zone and plays defense first/counter attack/forecheck .. It's going to be fun
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Post by giantlegacy on Jun 14, 2022 11:33:20 GMT -5
As far as the Rangers go.....
They need another Goodrow or 2..... They have the firepower,obviously the goalie... They can get deeper at defense as well.... Gallant is a very good coach despite the Kakka folly...
One thing Gallant needs to do... This is now twice a Gallant c9ached team lost late in the playoffs to a team that plays a 1-3-1 neutral zone system (while Tampa plays some sort of hybrid system Trots is trap deciple and Washington choked out Vegas that year)
Tampa was a maj0r run and gun team until 2020 2019 the Blue Jackets surprised them with a 1-3-1 system themselves..
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Post by Rangers13 on Jun 15, 2022 9:34:09 GMT -5
Tampa Lightning used a 1-1-3. Both defenses prevent odd man rushes and drop four in the box with hockey 101 defensive rotation based on where the puck is. The Tampa transition game off turnovers resulted in several key goals.
Meanwhile, Columbus played a 1-2-2 system when the defeated the Lightning years ago.
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Post by NAVY2323(ret) on Jun 16, 2022 9:03:08 GMT -5
If that was Colorado’s “rust” game Tampa wasted a golden opportunity.
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Post by giantlegacy on Jun 16, 2022 9:29:15 GMT -5
Turnovers kill
Not impressed by their goalie at all,his lateral movement and anticipation isn't near the same league as Igor.
Still not bad after being badly outplayed in the 1st.. Again turnovers will kill
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Post by Roswell on Jun 17, 2022 14:26:56 GMT -5
Turnovers kill Not impressed by their goalie at all,his lateral movement and anticipation isn't near the same league as Igor. Still not bad after being badly outplayed in the 1st.. Again turnovers will kill Avs goalie is fair at best but Avs have something that the Rangers don't. Their elite players will go to the net. Panarin played like TB was wet paint.
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Post by giantlegacy on Jun 17, 2022 15:08:10 GMT -5
Turnovers kill Not impressed by their goalie at all,his lateral movement and anticipation isn't near the same league as Igor. Still not bad after being badly outplayed in the 1st.. Again turnovers will kill Avs goalie is fair at best but Avs have something that the Rangers don't. Their elite players will go to the net. Panarin played like TB was wet paint. Kucherov used to be soft....either he gets it or he is moved for players like Matteau,Noonan,Gudrow,Paul,ect.
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Post by Roswell on Jun 17, 2022 15:24:30 GMT -5
Avs goalie is fair at best but Avs have something that the Rangers don't. Their elite players will go to the net. Panarin played like TB was wet paint. Kucherov used to be soft....either he gets it or he is moved for players like Matteau,Noonan,Gudrow,Paul,ect. Panarin's got a no move. He was very disappointing in the playoffs. His style of play doesn't really lend itself to the playoffs but they really needed him to produce 5 v 5 and he really didn't. One of their least effective wings in the top 9.
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Post by giantlegacy on Jun 17, 2022 16:11:17 GMT -5
Kucherov used to be soft....either he gets it or he is moved for players like Matteau,Noonan,Gudrow,Paul,ect. Panarin's got a no move. He was very disappointing in the playoffs. His style of play doesn't really lend itself to the playoffs but they really needed him to produce 5 v 5 and he really didn't. One of their least effective wings in the top 9. Then it might be smart to move him for more playoff type guys....the league is littered with guys that are great stat accumulators that fail in the playoffs
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Post by giantlegacy on Jun 18, 2022 19:48:43 GMT -5
Oh well looks like Tampa didn't bother to show up....
Was a nice run I guess
70 games in 3 years...2 playoff runs inside of 10 months....that shit is eventually going to catch up
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Post by Dogecoin on Jun 18, 2022 20:27:16 GMT -5
Oh well looks like Tampa didn't bother to show up.... Was a nice run I guess 70 games in 3 years...2 playoff runs inside of 10 months....that shit is eventually going to catch up rangers would have been a more interesting series, and not just because I'm a NY fan
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Post by Rangers13 on Jun 18, 2022 20:40:36 GMT -5
Oh well looks like Tampa didn't bother to show up.... Was a nice run I guess 70 games in 3 years...2 playoff runs inside of 10 months....that shit is eventually going to catch up rangers would have been a more interesting series, and not just because I'm a NY fan they weren’t ready for this team. Ratings would have skyrocketed yet the Avs have been the best team all season imo.
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Post by Dogecoin on Jun 19, 2022 4:37:15 GMT -5
rangers would have been a more interesting series, and not just because I'm a NY fan they weren’t ready for this team. Ratings would have skyrocketed yet the Avs have been the best team all season imo. Its about match ups. Yes lightning were the better team against rangers, but rangers have more team speed which imo would have made them more competitive against AVS. Lightning 7-0 loss last night was just embarrassing, we could have done better.
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Post by Rangers13 on Jun 19, 2022 6:55:24 GMT -5
they weren’t ready for this team. Ratings would have skyrocketed yet the Avs have been the best team all season imo. Its about match ups. Yes lightning were the better team against rangers, but rangers have more team speed which imo would have made them more competitive against AVS. Lightning 7-0 loss last night was just embarrassing, we could have done better. eh, idk. The Rangers handle the puck well yet there isn’t a ton of speed on the team. Kreider can fly yet a lot of his goals aren’t off the rush. Panarin slammed on the breaks since the drop of the playoffs while Chytil is one of the few who goes to the net. Strome and company keep passing, passing, passing. Vs Pitt, Carolina and Tampa we see the Rangers too often unable, confused or unwilling to skate the puck up ice. The Rangers skate hard and there is certainly more electricity to their offense than the previous Hank years. This Avs team however, is loaded, skates fast and hard. This would have been like the Kings Final Series or worse imo had the Rangers made it. This playoff exit should help the Rangers although that cap is a headache. Helped the Lightning after losing to Columbus and certainly helped the Avs after Vegas beat the hell out of them last year. Unfortunately i think the high powered Fla team will learn a lot although the cap won’t be friendly to them either. Something serious is missing from that Canes team as they look like the old Rangers yet without a Hank. Toronto, who knows? Ottawa has a ways to go while the Kings, i’m guessing, will make a huge jump. Edmonton? Idk, i don’t think the West offered much so they moved on. Avs wise, they’re awesome. Side note and what doesn’t get mentioned enough imo. The Colorado air. Lightning couldn’t skate. Hmm
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Post by Dogecoin on Jun 19, 2022 10:51:01 GMT -5
Its about match ups. Yes lightning were the better team against rangers, but rangers have more team speed which imo would have made them more competitive against AVS. Lightning 7-0 loss last night was just embarrassing, we could have done better. eh, idk. The Rangers handle the puck well yet there isn’t a ton of speed on the team. Kreider can fly yet a lot of his goals aren’t off the rush. Panarin slammed on the breaks since the drop of the playoffs while Chytil is one of the few who goes to the net. Strome and company keep passing, passing, passing. Vs Pitt, Carolina and Tampa we see the Rangers too often unable, confused or unwilling to skate the puck up ice. The Rangers skate hard and there is certainly more electricity to their offense than the previous Hank years. This Avs team however, is loaded, skates fast and hard. This would have been like the Kings Final Series or worse imo had the Rangers made it. This playoff exit should help the Rangers although that cap is a headache. Helped the Lightning after losing to Columbus and certainly helped the Avs after Vegas beat the hell out of them last year. Unfortunately i think the high powered Fla team will learn a lot although the cap won’t be friendly to them either. Something serious is missing from that Canes team as they look like the old Rangers yet without a Hank. Toronto, who knows? Ottawa has a ways to go while the Kings, i’m guessing, will make a huge jump. Edmonton? Idk, i don’t think the West offered much so they moved on. Avs wise, they’re awesome. Side note and what doesn’t get mentioned enough imo. The Colorado air. Lightning couldn’t skate. Hmm never thought about the altitude, never know with a sport as exhausting as that. Still think lightning goalie is being exposed, rangers put no pressure on him. Meanwhile ours got shallacked worse and never gave up anywhere near 7.
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