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Post by southerner on Nov 24, 2021 5:30:54 GMT -5
The Giants did well firing Garrett yesterday, but why is Judge still around? Judge is the moron that hired Garrett and the one that did nothing until a press conference after another bad game. To make the team better you have to remove ALL of the cancer, not just part of it.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2021 6:05:36 GMT -5
The Giants did well firing Garrett yesterday, but why is Judge still around? Judge is the moron that hired Garrett and the one that did nothing until a press conference after another bad game. To make the team better you have to remove ALL of the cancer, not just part of it. Judge did NOT hire Garrett. John Mara did, remember? He more or less assigned Garrett to Judge. He had no say in who the coordinator was going to be.
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Post by southerner on Nov 24, 2021 6:13:43 GMT -5
The Giants did well firing Garrett yesterday, but why is Judge still around? Judge is the moron that hired Garrett and the one that did nothing until a press conference after another bad game. To make the team better you have to remove ALL of the cancer, not just part of it. Judge did NOT hire Garrett. John Mara did, remember? He more or less assigned Garrett to Judge. He had no say in who the coordinator was going to be. Nope, Judge is the HC, and the performance of ALL coaches are HIS responsibility…..Judge should go and go now for putting up with that incompetent for two years….a REAL Head Coach would have never hired or agreed to accept Garrett. This is just more proof that Judge has no idea what he is doing, so in desperation he dumps Garrett….Judge has to go as he has now lost the team and the rest of the coaching staff, especially after his childish rant after the game to the media….he sounded like A scared kid, blaming others. If he wanted to fire a coach, just do it and don’t rub his nose in it to the media. Right now the players know he is clueless and no FAs or even upcoming college players want to be on this sinking ship. The Giants need to sever relations quickly with Judge and Gettleman or a full blown player mutiny is in store after they lose the next two games.
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Post by mikethenygfan on Nov 24, 2021 6:40:52 GMT -5
The Giants did well firing Garrett yesterday, but why is Judge still around? Judge is the moron that hired Garrett and the one that did nothing until a press conference after another bad game. To make the team better you have to remove ALL of the cancer, not just part of it. scapegoat
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Post by bigbluejeep8888 on Nov 24, 2021 7:14:03 GMT -5
The Giants did well firing Garrett yesterday, but why is Judge still around? Judge is the moron that hired Garrett and the one that did nothing until a press conference after another bad game. To make the team better you have to remove ALL of the cancer, not just part of it. Judge did NOT hire Garrett. John Mara did, remember? He more or less assigned Garrett to Judge. He had no say in who the coordinator was going to be. No according to John Mara judge hired garrett. “I certainly wouldn’t have any objection to that," Mara said. "I have a lot of respect for Jason. But at the end of the day, that’s going to be Joe’s decision.” www.nj.com/giants/2020/01/john-mara-takeaways-hes-open-to-hiring-jason-garrett-how-joe-judge-was-a-long-shot-why-giants-didnt-interview-josh-mcdaniels.html
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Post by TEM on Nov 24, 2021 9:05:16 GMT -5
He should have been
What does he know about football outside of theory? He talks a great game like a business professor that never worked in the private sector. Never ran an offense or defense. He can tell a guy how to run down there and tackle the guy returning the kickoff and punt . But that is about it on his practical experience.
I will say it again
Manager style HC = Football theorist.
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Post by cdngfan on Nov 24, 2021 9:14:26 GMT -5
This is one of these situations where we have to look at the evidence more then the testimony. Almost all of Judge’s staff is connected to Judge except Garrett. ANd the guy that Garrett brought from Dallas didn’t last the season. John is covering his tracks here.
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Post by FBomb on Nov 24, 2021 9:16:50 GMT -5
A reporter asked him yesterday, why he didn't call a timeout on that 4th down play when it was apparent there was confusion with the offense. His answer was: "That was the plan".
He should have been fired on the spot.
If "that was the plan"... Why didn't you call it? He's lost.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2021 9:20:27 GMT -5
The Giants did well firing Garrett yesterday, but why is Judge still around? Judge is the moron that hired Garrett and the one that did nothing until a press conference after another bad game. To make the team better you have to remove ALL of the cancer, not just part of it. He wasn't because Garrett was the one who they planned on replacing Judge with.. I thought everyone knew this..
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Post by TEM on Nov 24, 2021 9:22:25 GMT -5
This is one of these situations where we have to look at the evidence more then the testimony. Almost all of Judge’s staff is connected to Judge except Garrett. ANd the guy that Garrett brought from Dallas didn’t last the season. John is covering his tracks here. Name one that has preformed better than Garrett? DC? QB coach? WR coach? special teams coach? RB coach? DB coach? Online coach? LB coach? D line coach? There is no f-ing way the ineptitude on display with this team in all aspects of it are every coach on the staff's fault. Garrett was symptom not the problem. It is systemic from the top.
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Post by Rangers13 on Nov 24, 2021 9:24:00 GMT -5
The Giants did well firing Garrett yesterday, but why is Judge still around? Judge is the moron that hired Garrett and the one that did nothing until a press conference after another bad game. To make the team better you have to remove ALL of the cancer, not just part of it. who coaches the team then?
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Post by FBomb on Nov 24, 2021 9:25:06 GMT -5
The Giants did well firing Garrett yesterday, but why is Judge still around? Judge is the moron that hired Garrett and the one that did nothing until a press conference after another bad game. To make the team better you have to remove ALL of the cancer, not just part of it. who coaches the team then? A tackling dummy?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2021 9:29:17 GMT -5
who coaches the team then? A tackling dummy? I like the improvement chances!!
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Post by TEM on Nov 24, 2021 9:35:43 GMT -5
The Giants did well firing Garrett yesterday, but why is Judge still around? Judge is the moron that hired Garrett and the one that did nothing until a press conference after another bad game. To make the team better you have to remove ALL of the cancer, not just part of it. who coaches the team then? Pruitt. He at least has been a HC.
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Post by Rangers13 on Nov 24, 2021 9:37:49 GMT -5
who coaches the team then? A tackling dummy? well, somebody has to stay in charge. Can’t have a substitute teacher for seven weeks.
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Post by scoostraw on Nov 24, 2021 9:37:54 GMT -5
Judge did NOT hire Garrett. John Mara did, remember? He more or less assigned Garrett to Judge. He had no say in who the coordinator was going to be. Link?
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Post by bigbluejeep8888 on Nov 24, 2021 9:42:10 GMT -5
This is one of these situations where we have to look at the evidence more then the testimony. Almost all of Judge’s staff is connected to Judge except Garrett. ANd the guy that Garrett brought from Dallas didn’t last the season. John is covering his tracks here. This was of course said while garrett was getting hired not fired. But yeah Mara of course wants the blame to go on someone else. Just like Judge is passing the blame on garrett. Shit rolls downhill lol. What I found odd was, they only interviewd garrett and Shula for the oc job. Before shumur I dont believe Shula ran a wco. How did they not even think to interview one wco coordinator? Freddie k isn't a wco guy either.
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Post by Nite on Nov 24, 2021 9:45:53 GMT -5
A reporter asked him yesterday, why he didn't call a timeout on that 4th down play when it was apparent there was confusion with the offense. His answer was: "That was the plan". He should have been fired on the spot. If "that was the plan"... Why didn't you call it? He's lost. As everybody who has a brain and a pair of eyes already knows this. The peter principle in action. Hes trying to fake it until he makes it, unfortunately he doesn't even know how to fake it... Mara is the one responsible for everything. But he has no balls and no heart. Too pussy to make the tough decisions required by a chief executive..What a disgrace to the Giants!!
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Post by bigbluejeep8888 on Nov 24, 2021 9:48:38 GMT -5
A reporter asked him yesterday, why he didn't call a timeout on that 4th down play when it was apparent there was confusion with the offense. His answer was: "That was the plan". He should have been fired on the spot. If "that was the plan"... Why didn't you call it? He's lost. Lmao that is the funniest thing I have ever read. Judge should be put in the ring of honor.
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Post by bigbluejeep8888 on Nov 24, 2021 9:49:21 GMT -5
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Post by Eazy E on Nov 24, 2021 9:56:23 GMT -5
Gettleman is the next in line to be fired, get that guy outta here. I have zero interest in this guy making anymore potentially destructive decisions. A new GM needs to be put in place to make moves for the upcoming season. Draft is coming, decisions on a new coach ,staff, players, etc. I want this clown nowhere near that table.
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Post by McCherry on Nov 24, 2021 9:57:48 GMT -5
Judge did NOT hire Garrett. John Mara did, remember? He more or less assigned Garrett to Judge. He had no say in who the coordinator was going to be. Link? Garrett was only recommended by John Mara. He wouldn't have been the OC if Judge didn't want him.
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Post by nygiantfanalways on Nov 24, 2021 10:02:57 GMT -5
The Giants did well firing Garrett yesterday, but why is Judge still around? Judge is the moron that hired Garrett and the one that did nothing until a press conference after another bad game. To make the team better you have to remove ALL of the cancer, not just part of it. Judge did NOT hire Garrett. John Mara did, remember? He more or less assigned Garrett to Judge. He had no say in who the coordinator was going to be. THIS!
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Post by FBomb on Nov 24, 2021 10:09:28 GMT -5
A reporter asked him yesterday, why he didn't call a timeout on that 4th down play when it was apparent there was confusion with the offense. His answer was: "That was the plan". He should have been fired on the spot. If "that was the plan"... Why didn't you call it? He's lost. Lmao that is the funniest thing I have ever read. Judge should be put in the ring of honor. It was probably those ****ing headphones again
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Post by Easy E on Nov 24, 2021 10:12:04 GMT -5
A reporter asked him yesterday, why he didn't call a timeout on that 4th down play when it was apparent there was confusion with the offense. His answer was: "That was the plan". He should have been fired on the spot. If "that was the plan"... Why didn't you call it? He's lost. Or maybe he meant that was the plan to looked confused to throw off the defense? They all looked confused and were standing around and then all of a sudden hurried/ran up to the line quickly to run the play. Either way, we looked unprepared and overmatched. The Bucs defense appeared to know what plays we running as soon as they saw our formation - the difference between well coached teams and us.
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Post by fifthavephil on Nov 24, 2021 10:15:24 GMT -5
The Giants did well firing Garrett yesterday, but why is Judge still around? Judge is the moron that hired Garrett and the one that did nothing until a press conference after another bad game. To make the team better you have to remove ALL of the cancer, not just part of it. Judge did NOT hire Garrett. John Mara did, remember? He more or less assigned Garrett to Judge. He had no say in who the coordinator was going to be. Remember, last season was a covid year. None or hardly any practices. So, it was basically a Mulligan year, for coaches and most players. Now, after ten or eleven weeks , in the season and a very poor record. Garrett is fired ! Judge , may have one more season , to prove himself. Though , they definitely need a New GM !
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Post by scoostraw on Nov 24, 2021 10:18:58 GMT -5
Garrett was only recommended by John Mara. He wouldn't have been the OC if Judge didn't want him. What puzzles me is how Garrett got all these jobs to begin with if he just isn't very good.
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Post by bigbluejeep8888 on Nov 24, 2021 10:18:58 GMT -5
Lmao that is the funniest thing I have ever read. Judge should be put in the ring of honor. It was probably those ****ing headphones again How any fan can defend Joe Judge right now is beyond me. Dude has an excuse for everything, will throw anyone under the bus and has 0 feel for the game. The entire season was on the line for that play and they looked confused as all hell. I feel like you could sum up judges coaching career in that play. Unprepared for the situation and doubling down on not using his resources. And I'm not gonna kill Judge if they didn't make it after the timeout. It was 100% the right call to go for it.
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Post by scoostraw on Nov 24, 2021 10:20:21 GMT -5
Well one thing at least - we are about to find out if it was Garrett who was the one screwing up all the time management at the end of the half and the end of games - or if it was Judge.
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Nov 24, 2021 10:20:33 GMT -5
The Giants did well firing Garrett yesterday, but why is Judge still around? Judge is the moron that hired Garrett and the one that did nothing until a press conference after another bad game. To make the team better you have to remove ALL of the cancer, not just part of it. Because he did the firing, I will go one better this might keep him around being Garret was recommended to him by ownership and if the Offense improve with his own guys Mara might just learn to keep his nose out of the coaches business.
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