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Post by Morehead State on Dec 6, 2021 10:31:51 GMT -5
Yes the offense is horrible. yes they have scored a grand total of 2 TD's in the last three games.
So don't tell us how how happy you are with what you saw on the field with our offense.
Don't tell us that "they did a great job today"
Don't tell us that "they made a lot of big plays"
This is the ultimate **** you to the fans. Not only do we have to watch our team suck it up on the field, but now we have to hear about how acceptable it is to the head coach.
As far as I'm concerned this attitude is an absolute firing offense. I fully expected him to go on a rant about how awful the offense is and how unacceptable it is.
What we got was a complete shock to me. How low have our standards become?
It's one thing to stink. It's quite another for our head coach to be happy with it. Joe has to go.
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Post by Fletch842 on Dec 6, 2021 10:33:18 GMT -5
Yes the offense is horrible. yes they have scored a grand total of 2 TD's in the last three games. So don't tell us how how happy you are with what you saw on the field with our offense. Don't tell us that "they did a great job today" Don't tell us that "they made a lot of big plays" This is the ultimate **** you to the fans. Not only do we have to watch our team suck it up on the field, but now we have to hear about how acceptable it is to the head coach. As far as I'm concerned this attitude is an absolute firing offense. I fully expected him to go on a rant about how awful the offense is and how unacceptable it is. What we got was a complete shock to me. How low have our standards become? It's one thing to stink. It's quite another for our head coach to be happy with it. Joe has to go. and that's just the tip of the iceberg. I don't think anyone wants to go for yet another coach this quickly, from a philosophic perspective, but we can't do another season of this level of ineptitude, |
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Post by solomonphoenix56 on Dec 6, 2021 10:34:51 GMT -5
He will be back next year though.
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Post by PennState1 on Dec 6, 2021 10:35:24 GMT -5
Find a GM first and then let him build his own team
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Post by solomonphoenix56 on Dec 6, 2021 10:35:46 GMT -5
This press conference was the last straw for me. His lip service is laughable at this point. Complete bullshit. I bought in after his first interview. Thought he was a tough mf'er who would make our team tough mf'ers. "NY city blue collar culture, that's what our team is going to be." Bullshit. You don't have the ****ing nutsack to speak the truth in a goddamn press conference about how shitty your players are playing? He's essentially just handing out participation trophies at this point. Dead man walking. **** him. Clean house. He doesn't know NYC culture. He is a southern, country boy. |
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Post by FBomb on Dec 6, 2021 10:36:07 GMT -5
I said it in another thread and I will say it here again: HEY JOE....  |
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Post by McCherry on Dec 6, 2021 10:36:08 GMT -5
Joe Judge is as bad as any coach who ever coached the Giants. Arguably even worse than the last two.
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Post by Rangers13 on Dec 6, 2021 10:38:07 GMT -5
lol, it’s as if you need the coach to tell you what you want to hear. The moment he speaks the truth he loses the locker room and the fans call him out for doing so.
Good or bad coach, he’s saying all the right things. Quite the contrary, Mac wasn’t as articulate and was killed despite a miserable roster. The moment he spoke out about Eli, BOOM, the truth hurt too many fans and ex-players.
It’s the players more than any coach since Coughlin. Nobody wins with this mess. (but the timeouts, i get it but who gives a hoot?)
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Post by DandyDon on Dec 6, 2021 10:42:43 GMT -5
WFAN host Mike Francesa tweeted: “Giants lose 20-9, can’t find the end zone and Joe Judge is ‘pleased.’ At the podium he looks and sounds like a babbling fool."
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Post by Rangers13 on Dec 6, 2021 10:43:36 GMT -5
lol, it’s as if you need the coach to tell you what you want to hear. The moment he speaks the truth he loses the locker room and the fans call him out for doing so. Good or bad coach, he’s saying all the right things. Quite the contrary, Mac wasn’t as articulate and was killed despite a miserable roster. The moment he spoke out about Eli, BOOM, the truth hurt too many fans and ex-players. It’s the players more than any coach since Coughlin. Nobody wins with this mess. (but the timeouts, i get it but who gives a hoot?) Judge can speak the truth in an appropriate way. You think the players are sitting there yesterday and today believing that Judge saw positives and like the direction this team is heading? They know he's fully of shit. So you can say, "we need to be more aggressive, we need to execute better, we got our tails whooped, etc" and all that other coach speak you hear that actually points to what happened. Not this lip service bullshit that points to fantasy land. Any fan who believes what is said at the podium is the same message sent during the week to this group is mistaken imo. There is no way this guy let’s anything slide. The talent stinks but b/c we can’t change the talent the default is the coach. Next up is Kitchens. He’s the next target. |
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Post by Rangers13 on Dec 6, 2021 10:45:08 GMT -5
WFAN host Mike Francesa tweeted: “Giants lose 20-9, can’t find the end zone and Joe Judge is ‘pleased.’ At the podium he looks and sounds like a babbling fool." Again, sounds off like he’s coaching a high school team. Anything coming from Mike has the underlining theme of Gettleman. And he, like many of us have been correct. The GM should have never been brought back. |
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Post by Morehead State on Dec 6, 2021 10:46:11 GMT -5
lol, it’s as if you need the coach to tell you what you want to hear. The moment he speaks the truth he loses the locker room and the fans call him out for doing so. Good or bad coach, he’s saying all the right things. Quite the contrary, Mac wasn’t as articulate and was killed despite a miserable roster. The moment he spoke out about Eli, BOOM, the truth hurt too many fans and ex-players. It’s the players more than any coach since Coughlin. Nobody wins with this mess. (but the timeouts, i get it but who gives a hoot?) Has nothing to do with what I want to hear....at least regarding my feeling better. It has to do with accepting poor play and being happy with it. Which he says he is. |
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Post by TCHOF on Dec 6, 2021 10:50:55 GMT -5
Joe Judge is as bad as any coach who ever coached the Giants. Arguably even worse than the last two. I really couldn't care less about what these coaches say during press conferences. Judge appears to be living proof that press conference performances have no correlation to on-field performance. What I do care about is the on-field results, which clearly have not been there. And it's not just wins and losses ... Judge's team hasn't shown what he promised to bring to this team ... smart, disciplined and physical football. His primary job (other than winning obviously) was to develop our young QB. More than half-way through his second season, it appears that he has failed miserably at that job. He appears overmatched in making in-game decisions. Starting to have all of the earmarks of another disastrous hire by Mara. I hope that he can turn it around, but my doubts grow by the week. |
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Post by TEM on Dec 6, 2021 10:57:26 GMT -5
If JJ had a pair . He would be seeking the council of TC and Bill Parcells on what he should be doing to correct the root problems.
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Post by Rangers13 on Dec 6, 2021 10:58:03 GMT -5
lol, it’s as if you need the coach to tell you what you want to hear. The moment he speaks the truth he loses the locker room and the fans call him out for doing so. Good or bad coach, he’s saying all the right things. Quite the contrary, Mac wasn’t as articulate and was killed despite a miserable roster. The moment he spoke out about Eli, BOOM, the truth hurt too many fans and ex-players. It’s the players more than any coach since Coughlin. Nobody wins with this mess. (but the timeouts, i get it but who gives a hoot?) Has nothing to do with what I want to hear....at least regarding my feeling better. It has to do with accepting poor play and being happy with it. Which he says he is. Imo, the fans have every right to complain yet, so many have been barking out in any and every direction. Most of the fans make little sense. Any word, etc is going to get killed. The inept OL is as inept as the QB Glennon and Jones isn’t doing much better. |
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Post by Rangers13 on Dec 6, 2021 10:59:40 GMT -5
If JJ had a pair . He would be seeking the council of TC and Bill Parcells on what he should be doing to correct the root problems. The root problem is a mystery? |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 6, 2021 11:07:49 GMT -5
This press conference was the last straw for me. His lip service is laughable at this point. Complete bullshit. I bought in after his first interview. Thought he was a tough mf'er who would make our team tough mf'ers. "NY city blue collar culture, that's what our team is going to be." Bullshit. You don't have the ****ing nutsack to speak the truth in a goddamn press conference about how shitty your players are playing? He's essentially just handing out participation trophies at this point. Dead man walking. **** him. Clean house. He doesn't know NYC culture. He is a southern, country boy. Never knew people from Philadelphia are southern country people.. |
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Post by snyder55 on Dec 6, 2021 11:08:49 GMT -5
Yes the offense is horrible. yes they have scored a grand total of 2 TD's in the last three games. So don't tell us how how happy you are with what you saw on the field with our offense. Don't tell us that "they did a great job today" Don't tell us that "they made a lot of big plays" This is the ultimate **** you to the fans. Not only do we have to watch our team suck it up on the field, but now we have to hear about how acceptable it is to the head coach. As far as I'm concerned this attitude is an absolute firing offense. I fully expected him to go on a rant about how awful the offense is and how unacceptable it is. What we got was a complete shock to me. How low have our standards become? It's one thing to stink. It's quite another for our head coach to be happy with it. Joe has to go. my question is, does Giant management have the balls to fire him, as far as I can see he has shown what he can do and its time to start looking around for a replacement HC along with a new GM.. |
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Post by TheAnalyst on Dec 6, 2021 11:20:29 GMT -5
This was the gamble.
A HC with absolutely ZERO HC experience in his lifetime, on any level. Not even a peewee football coach.
He will stay 1 more year, as will DJ. 3 years should be the minimal. Its painful I know, but we cant eject yet. How do you ever bring in a good HC candidate if you don't even give them 2 full years. This shit show isn't going to turn around in 2 years. If a year from now, we are in the same boat, get the new HC and go after Bryce Young in the draft.
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Post by Kase1 on Dec 6, 2021 11:30:29 GMT -5
This press conference was the last straw for me. His lip service is laughable at this point. Complete bullshit. I bought in after his first interview. Thought he was a tough mf'er who would make our team tough mf'ers. "NY city blue collar culture, that's what our team is going to be." Bullshit. You don't have the ****ing nutsack to speak the truth in a goddamn press conference about how shitty your players are playing? He's essentially just handing out participation trophies at this point. Dead man walking. **** him. Clean house. He doesn't know NYC culture. He is a southern, country boy. Isn't he from Philly?? |
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Post by Giggles on Dec 6, 2021 11:32:06 GMT -5
Unless the team no longer plays hard for him, I can't see Mara making a change. He's convinced that he found the next great coach the way he talks about him.
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Post by Kase1 on Dec 6, 2021 11:33:00 GMT -5
lol, it’s as if you need the coach to tell you what you want to hear. The moment he speaks the truth he loses the locker room and the fans call him out for doing so. Good or bad coach, he’s saying all the right things. Quite the contrary, Mac wasn’t as articulate and was killed despite a miserable roster. The moment he spoke out about Eli, BOOM, the truth hurt too many fans and ex-players. It’s the players more than any coach since Coughlin. Nobody wins with this mess. (but the timeouts, i get it but who gives a hoot?) While MacAdoo and Shurmer weren't great, at least they understood the concept of time outs |
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Post by Rangers13 on Dec 6, 2021 11:34:01 GMT -5
lol, it’s as if you need the coach to tell you what you want to hear. The moment he speaks the truth he loses the locker room and the fans call him out for doing so. Good or bad coach, he’s saying all the right things. Quite the contrary, Mac wasn’t as articulate and was killed despite a miserable roster. The moment he spoke out about Eli, BOOM, the truth hurt too many fans and ex-players. It’s the players more than any coach since Coughlin. Nobody wins with this mess. (but the timeouts, i get it but who gives a hoot?) While MacAdoo and Shurmer weren't great, at least they understood the concept of time outs oh yeah, and they could work a headset which is a big one around here. |
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Post by DJones19 on Dec 6, 2021 11:35:29 GMT -5
When McAdoo took the opposite approach and said the team played like garbage the media and the fans were screaming "how dare you!"
Doesn't matter much what Judge says after the game.
If the team wins fans are happy, if they lose fans want people fired.
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Post by NAVY2323(ret) on Dec 6, 2021 11:35:51 GMT -5
He needs to go. It’s been said for a while by quite a few now. He’s a used car salesman masquerading as an NFL coach. Besides the best thing we can offer a worthy GM is 2 high picks and a chance to bring in their own coach. It sure ain’t the current roster or cap situation. JJ=🤡🤡🤡
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Post by Roswell on Dec 6, 2021 11:39:57 GMT -5
This was the gamble. A HC with absolutely ZERO HC experience in his lifetime, on any level. Not even a peewee football coach. He will stay 1 more year, as will DJ. 3 years should be the minimal. Its painful I know, but we cant eject yet. How do you ever bring in a good HC candidate if you don't even give them 2 full years. This shit show isn't going to turn around in 2 years. If a year from now, we are in the same boat, get the new HC and go after Bryce Young in the draft. I agree. Unless the Giants lose out, Judge will be back for a third year. Like you said, who's coming here if the Giants keep firing guys after 2 years. Unfortunately, this is their opportunity to clean house. New GM. New coach. But the optics would be bad and Mara is huge on optics. Someone should tell Mara the only optics he should be worrying about is the team's won/loss record and a dwindling fan base. |
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Post by Kase1 on Dec 6, 2021 11:40:23 GMT -5
While MacAdoo and Shurmer weren't great, at least they understood the concept of time outs oh yeah, and they could work a headset which is a big one around here. Oh yea, forgot about that trash excuse Guy is a ****ing joke |
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Post by Rangers13 on Dec 6, 2021 11:44:36 GMT -5
oh yeah, and they could work a headset which is a big one around here. Oh yea, forgot about that trash excuse Guy is a ****ing joke kill the coach is the big theme around here. Been going on since 2006. Every word, action, etc gets killed. |
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Post by TEM on Dec 6, 2021 11:48:39 GMT -5
If JJ had a pair . He would be seeking the council of TC and Bill Parcells on what he should be doing to correct the root problems. The root problem is a mystery? Why an outside audit is a necessity. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 6, 2021 11:50:02 GMT -5
He will be back next year though. |
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