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Post by ThatGuyRich on Mar 2, 2022 15:22:39 GMT -5
Expected Shep probably next GL I read that if we cut Shep after June 1st it's a lot more in savings on the cap. I don't know the reason on how it works. For some reason I think it's around 10 mil but I don't know where I heard that number.
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Post by kerryisdaman on Mar 2, 2022 15:22:39 GMT -5
By making some cuts does it give a push for others to cut their salaries? Cutting Booker seems strange given Bark's injury history but it is a sign that Bark will be back. Not necessarily. Not for sure but would lead to that direction.
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Post by Kruunch on Mar 2, 2022 15:24:31 GMT -5
Cutting Booker makes absolutely no sense. We freed up a Prius by doing so. I get Rudolph, he’s on the back nine of his career. And is making too much for what he’s worth. Reliable players on cheap deals should be kept. Trying to get $40 million under is going to take a hell lot more than Booker and Rudolph. Start aiming bigger. Bradberry, Ryan, Martinez for starters. no kidding... it makes total sense because he isnt needed at the moment and probably not what they want. They are cleaning house for the cap and the to rebuild the roster. Booker is totally expendable. every little bit helps. You clear the board and then go from there. BTW they are aiming at the other guys you mentioned. Agreed. Who wants a reliable player on the cheap? Thankfully, we have an often injured Barkley with a nonexistent Brightwell to carry the load.
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Post by kerryisdaman on Mar 2, 2022 15:25:03 GMT -5
Expected Shep probably next GL I read that if we cut Shep after June 1st it's a lot more in savings on the cap. I don't know the reason on how it works. For some reason I think it's around 10 mil but I don't know where I heard that number. If cut is made after June 1 that cuts his cap hit in half. So instead of 100% in 2022 its 50% in 22 and 50% in 23. It would give us another 4 mill in room for 22 but take away 4 mill in 23.
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Post by Blue Hulk on Mar 2, 2022 15:26:00 GMT -5
Report just in that fans on the Giants board are being cut! I just got a letter from Rosey, but I'm afraid to open it! ![](https://c.tenor.com/gKnUhPNlMxwAAAAC/anchorman-arm.gif) cut the turk before the turk cuts you.
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Post by Blue Hulk on Mar 2, 2022 15:29:06 GMT -5
Solder was actually the first to go... ![](https://media4.giphy.com/media/j6AL9zmIC5sHc2zcvQ/200w.gif?cid=82a1493bf2qdc1vvgx2y0gn8uw9dxbpsz400tb0b85cgwn49&rid=200w.gif&ct=g)
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Post by jaymas on Mar 2, 2022 15:29:12 GMT -5
Cutting Booker makes absolutely no sense. We freed up a Prius by doing so. I get Rudolph, he’s on the back nine of his career. And is making too much for what he’s worth. Reliable players on cheap deals should be kept. Trying to get $40 million under is going to take a hell lot more than Booker and Rudolph. Start aiming bigger. Bradberry, Ryan, Martinez for starters. By making some cuts does it give a push for others to cut their salaries? Cutting Booker seems strange given Bark's injury history but it is a sign that Bark will be back. I think it's just a sign they'll have a cheaper backup RB. I'm sure they will aim bigger too (I know that wasn't your post), but they are starting here. There was no chance either of these two players were going to be back.
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Post by dj44601 on Mar 2, 2022 15:31:37 GMT -5
Next cut should be Dixon. So far no surprises
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Post by ThatGuyRich on Mar 2, 2022 15:32:53 GMT -5
Going to be a lot of these tweets the next few days The good thing is the fact we are doing this quickly it gets these guys out there looking for work now ... It is the right and classy way to go about their business, Guys like Bradberry might take some time I'm sure they are trying to trade first they might put Slayton on the block cheap experienced WR. Nobody is trading for Slayton. Just cut him and save the 2.5 mil on the cap.
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Post by kerryisdaman on Mar 2, 2022 15:32:58 GMT -5
By making some cuts does it give a push for others to cut their salaries? Cutting Booker seems strange given Bark's injury history but it is a sign that Bark will be back. I think it's just a sign they'll have a cheaper backup RB. I'm sure they will aim bigger too (I know that wasn't your post), but they are starting here. There was no chance either of these two players were going to be back. Maybe but what do you get for less than 2 mill? That is how much we saved from Booker.
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Post by McCherry on Mar 2, 2022 15:33:01 GMT -5
Not for sure but would lead to that direction. Barkley only goes if someone is willing to trade for him. We won't know what that the interest will be until 3/16. Releasing Booker was about money. He was a good player, but you can find better for cheaper.
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Post by kerryisdaman on Mar 2, 2022 15:37:25 GMT -5
Not for sure but would lead to that direction. Barkley only goes if someone is willing to trade for him. We won't know what that the interest will be until 3/16. Releasing Booker was about money. He was a good player, but you can find better for cheaper. Better for less than 2 mill? Who? Dixon, Slaton, and Blake could all be possibly cut before June 1 because they are in the last years of their deals. There would be no savings for waiting until after June 1.
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Post by ThatGuyRich on Mar 2, 2022 15:41:32 GMT -5
GL I read that if we cut Shep after June 1st it's a lot more in savings on the cap. I don't know the reason on how it works. For some reason I think it's around 10 mil but I don't know where I heard that number. If cut is made after June 1 that cuts his cap hit in half. So instead of 100% in 2022 its 50% in 22 and 50% in 23. It would give us another 4 mill in room for 22 but take away 4 mill in 23. Thank you Kerry, I think we need the room more this year, I think were in pretty good shape on the cap next year. Shep has to go though. Too much money can't stay on the field. Always rooted so hard for him.
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Post by kerryisdaman on Mar 2, 2022 15:44:39 GMT -5
If cut is made after June 1 that cuts his cap hit in half. So instead of 100% in 2022 its 50% in 22 and 50% in 23. It would give us another 4 mill in room for 22 but take away 4 mill in 23. Thank you Kerry, I think we need the room more this year, I think were in pretty good shape on the cap next year. Shep has to go though. Too much money can't stay on the field. Always rooted so hard for him. If we need the cap savings to be as large as possible then for a guy like Shep we need to wait till after June 1. This is why the cap really sucks. I really like Shep. I wish Shep could stay, You are right though. It comes down to health for him. I was surprised to see Shep and Blake at the coach and gm introductions because I thought there was a good chance they would both be health related cap casualties.
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Post by ThatGuyRich on Mar 2, 2022 15:52:12 GMT -5
Next cut should be Dixon. So far no surprises Oh definitely he's gone. He's about 2.5 -3 mil on the cap.
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Post by Roosevelt on Mar 2, 2022 15:57:02 GMT -5
Cutting Booker makes absolutely no sense. We freed up a Prius by doing so. I get Rudolph, he’s on the back nine of his career. And is making too much for what he’s worth. Reliable players on cheap deals should be kept. Trying to get $40 million under is going to take a hell lot more than Booker and Rudolph. Start aiming bigger. Bradberry, Ryan, Martinez for starters. Trading Bradbury gives us more instant relief and a very good chance of a day 2 pick back I heard he was having his contract renegotiated to remain a Giant.
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Post by ThatGuyRich on Mar 2, 2022 15:57:55 GMT -5
Thank you Kerry, I think we need the room more this year, I think were in pretty good shape on the cap next year. Shep has to go though. Too much money can't stay on the field. Always rooted so hard for him. If we need the cap savings to be as large as possible then for a guy like Shep we need to wait till after June 1. This is why the cap really sucks. I really like Shep. I wish Shep could stay, You are right though. It comes down to health for him. I was surprised to see Shep and Blake at the coach and gm introductions because I thought there was a good chance they would both be health related cap casualties. Maybe Shep could become a coach if his playing days are over. Just spitballing. Blake I would keep, he can renegotiate his contract and maybe the Giants save 3-4 mil on the cap this season. Possibly the same with Bradberry. But your right why them at the introductions ?
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Post by ThatGuyRich on Mar 2, 2022 15:59:12 GMT -5
GL I read that if we cut Shep after June 1st it's a lot more in savings on the cap. I don't know the reason on how it works. For some reason I think it's around 10 mil but I don't know where I heard that number. It's because he is owed approx $8M of guaranteed money. If you cut him before 6/1 you eat all of that $8M against the 2022 cap. If you cut him after 6/1 you prorate that $8M over the course of the next two season's caps. So you'd save more in 2022 but also carry dead cap in 2023. But in the end you're still eating a total of $8M in dead cap. ![](https://i.imgur.com/Su1eK1Z.png) Thank you LT. So it would be better for us this year to help reach the goal of 40 mil in cap space to cut him after June 1st ?
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Post by kerryisdaman on Mar 2, 2022 16:02:11 GMT -5
If we need the cap savings to be as large as possible then for a guy like Shep we need to wait till after June 1. This is why the cap really sucks. I really like Shep. I wish Shep could stay, You are right though. It comes down to health for him. I was surprised to see Shep and Blake at the coach and gm introductions because I thought there was a good chance they would both be health related cap casualties. Maybe Shep could become a coach if his playing days are over. Just spitballing. Blake I would keep, he can renegotiate his contract and maybe the Giants save 3-4 mil on the cap this season. Possibly the same with Bradberry. But your right why them at the introductions ? If they were to cut either player it would seem very awkward having them at those introductions. I do not know what they will do. I just know I like Shep. Seems a shame to keep KG but cut Shep. LOL I'm not a cap fan.
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Post by giantlegacy on Mar 2, 2022 16:02:12 GMT -5
Trading Bradbury gives us more instant relief and a very good chance of a day 2 pick back I heard he was having his contract renegotiated to remain a Giant. Or to be easier to trade
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Post by snyder55 on Mar 2, 2022 16:34:05 GMT -5
Awesome start! I’m smiling already. Engram should have gone with him as far as I’m concerned. Engram is gone.. gone where?
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Post by repeatchamps on Mar 2, 2022 16:45:54 GMT -5
He's saying that Engram is a UFA that the Giants do not intend to re-sign.
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Post by repeatchamps on Mar 2, 2022 16:47:20 GMT -5
Trading Bradbury gives us more instant relief and a very good chance of a day 2 pick back I heard he was having his contract renegotiated to remain a Giant. Yes hearing this too. The powers that be think he is a good fit for Wink's system and will do what they can to retain him.
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Post by Bigjeep on Mar 2, 2022 16:47:29 GMT -5
Report just in that fans on the Giants board are being cut! I just got a letter from Rosey, but I'm afraid to open it! Turn in your playbook You mean password?
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Mar 2, 2022 16:52:43 GMT -5
It is the right and classy way to go about their business, Guys like Bradberry might take some time I'm sure they are trying to trade first they might put Slayton on the block cheap experienced WR. Nobody is trading for Slayton. Just cut him and save the 2.5 mil on the cap. If they can get a 5th or a 6th why not.
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Post by Martin on Mar 2, 2022 17:11:40 GMT -5
Kyle Rudolph has a net worth of $16 million. He isn't doing landscaping work any time soon. still was funny though lol and not just talking about Rudolph..... Yes LOL let the purge begin!
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Post by snyder55 on Mar 2, 2022 17:17:23 GMT -5
Solder was actually the first to go... ![](https://media4.giphy.com/media/j6AL9zmIC5sHc2zcvQ/200w.gif?cid=82a1493bf2qdc1vvgx2y0gn8uw9dxbpsz400tb0b85cgwn49&rid=200w.gif&ct=g) I think Solder is walking away with a big smile on his face...
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Post by Deleted on Mar 2, 2022 17:18:06 GMT -5
no kidding... it makes total sense because he isnt needed at the moment and probably not what they want. They are cleaning house for the cap and the to rebuild the roster. Booker is totally expendable. every little bit helps. You clear the board and then go from there. BTW they are aiming at the other guys you mentioned. Agreed. Who wants a reliable player on the cheap? Thankfully, we have an often injured Barkley with a nonexistent Brightwell to carry the load. Booker is useless though. You get a guy like him a dime a dozen. Why not cut the dead wood? It’s not like any of his contributions mattered in a positive. In other words…he sucked. Looking back, I would have stuck with the decision of keeping Clement. Whatever…both players we can live without.
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Post by TEM on Mar 2, 2022 17:47:14 GMT -5
Expected Shep probably next GL I read that if we cut Shep after June 1st it's a lot more in savings on the cap. I don't know the reason on how it works. For some reason I think it's around 10 mil but I don't know where I heard that number. It is against the CBA to cut a player on IR. It can be as long as 11 months for recovery from an Achilles... Mid November.
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Post by TEM on Mar 2, 2022 17:58:31 GMT -5
It is against the CBA to cut a player on IR. It can be as long as 11 months for recovery from an Achilles... Mid November. Pretty sure when the new season starts his IR designation is no longer in place. I do not believe that is the way the rule is. A player who is injured can not be cut by a team until the injury is healed, unless the player and the team reach an “injury settlement”. A player placed on the IR is paid until they come off the IR guaranteed (generally the end of the season). He was injured playing and under contract. Because he is under contract. He falls under the, "until the injury is healed" or an injury settlement agreement. Designate the player as waived/injured. This applies in the preseason to any un-vested player, and is an option for any player during the regular season. If a player is not going to be designated to the injured reserve list, the team will make the player an injury settlement offer. Typically this is some lump sum payment that would reflect all or a portion of any base salary and expected/unpaid bonus money, as well as the cost of medical treatment and rehabilitation for the injury.
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