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Post by mendy on Mar 3, 2022 14:57:32 GMT -5
If this is accurate it would be great for both parties Shep will get to rehab and knows the Giants won't rush him back and the Giants will get more cap then the 4.5 they would have, also not adding years or pushing money back a win win. Shep has always been a team player. If my understanding is correct and it's a one year deal he could always improve his position by playing well.
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Post by GameTime on Mar 3, 2022 14:57:45 GMT -5
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Post by GameTime on Mar 3, 2022 14:58:46 GMT -5
coming off a serious injury...
a very modest pro vet salary or its nothing.
He wont get big money anywhere.
Initially I forgot about the injury.
Vet minimum is a good deal for him
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Post by Roosevelt on Mar 3, 2022 15:01:47 GMT -5
coming off a serious injury... a very modest pro vet salary or its nothing. He wont get big money anywhere. Initially I forgot about the injury. Vet minimum is a good deal for him Guys careers can turn on a dime .
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Post by GameTime on Mar 3, 2022 15:09:13 GMT -5
coming off a serious injury... a very modest pro vet salary or its nothing. He wont get big money anywhere. Initially I forgot about the injury. Vet minimum is a good deal for him Guys careers can turn on a dime . he's been banged up semi regularly tho. I am sure it happens on many teams but it seem the NYG almost never have their full "1st" team starting for games at a time. Thats with a poor roster too. So then you go to depth on a roster where the many of the starters arent even that good... makes for a shit show
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Post by GameTime on Mar 3, 2022 15:10:04 GMT -5
His best option. Doesn't have to move his family, gets to try and prove doubters wrong while on the team that drafted him. the only thing he ha to prove is if he can stay on the field. His game is good
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Post by jaymas on Mar 3, 2022 15:26:46 GMT -5
His best option. Doesn't have to move his family, gets to try and prove doubters wrong while on the team that drafted him. the only thing he ha to prove is if he can stay on the field. His game is good Oh yeah, I totally agree.
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Post by wtfjjk on Mar 3, 2022 15:35:51 GMT -5
Hope not. Another forgettable WR. I’d prefer a whole new squad for this new offense. Yeah but for a million or two, he's at least better than undrafted rookies or 3rd 4th stringers in FA.
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Post by McCherry on Mar 3, 2022 15:52:42 GMT -5
Hope not. Another forgettable WR. I’d prefer a whole new squad for this new offense. Yeah but for a million or two, he's at least better than undrafted rookies or 3rd 4th stringers in FA. Even for 8 games, it's a bargain.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2022 15:52:44 GMT -5
Eric fisher literally tore his Achilles in January of 2021 and was released in March of 2021. Dont know what else to tell ya. www.latimes.com/sports/nfl/la-sp-0928-ask-farmer-20140928-story.htmlAsk Sam Farmer: How contracts work for injured players When a player gets hurt on the field or off the field, is his contract guaranteed? When so many players get hurt in training camp, are they then paid for the rest of the season? Cary Spier, Santa Fe, N.M. Farmer: An injured player gets paid for as long as he’s unable to play, no matter what his contract says. A team can’t release an injured player until he’s cleared. For most rookie contracts, players selected in the third round or later, there’s something called an “up-down,” which is two minimum salaries negotiated in the collective bargaining agreement. The “up” is the minimum active salary, which this season is $420,000, and the “down” ($303,000) is the minimum inactive salary. If a player is injured after eight games, he’s paid eight weeks “up” and nine weeks “down” (eight weeks, plus the bye). For most veterans, there is no “down.” It’s whatever he’s scheduled to earn. If a player gets hurt doing a football-related activity, he’s covered, no matter when it happens. So if he tears his anterior cruciate ligament in a May minicamp, he’s covered. There are also injury settlements, which must be agreed to within five days of a player being placed on injured reserve. Say a player suffers a sprained ankle in training camp and it’s a three-week injury. The team can pay him for those three weeks, then release him. That player is eligible to return to that team after the number of weeks the settlement was for (in this case, three), plus another six weeks. So he would be eligible to return in any capacity by Week 10. That six-week “tax” is put in place so teams can’t stash players by saying they’re injured. If a player suffers an injury doing something unrelated to football, he’s placed on the reserve/non-football injury list. It’s at the discretion of the team whether the player is paid. Thanks for the link Wendy
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Post by snyder55 on Mar 3, 2022 16:12:53 GMT -5
I really hope the Giants don't resign Barkley to another contract just because his name is Barkley..
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Post by GameTime on Mar 3, 2022 16:17:05 GMT -5
Yeah but for a million or two, he's at least better than undrafted rookies or 3rd 4th stringers in FA. Even for 8 games, it's a bargain. no its not... especially fo the 8 games are pieced together here and there. no chemistry at all within the offense.
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Post by Giggles on Mar 3, 2022 16:19:06 GMT -5
They asked but there's no indication yet that he has accepted.
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Post by GameTime on Mar 3, 2022 16:24:44 GMT -5
They asked but there's no indication yet that he has accepted. yep... just was giving you the article from the Post since you questioned if the twitter source was reliable
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Post by jaymas on Mar 3, 2022 16:34:20 GMT -5
Eric fisher literally tore his Achilles in January of 2021 and was released in March of 2021. Dont know what else to tell ya. www.latimes.com/sports/nfl/la-sp-0928-ask-farmer-20140928-story.htmlAsk Sam Farmer: How contracts work for injured players When a player gets hurt on the field or off the field, is his contract guaranteed? When so many players get hurt in training camp, are they then paid for the rest of the season? Cary Spier, Santa Fe, N.M. Farmer: An injured player gets paid for as long as he’s unable to play, no matter what his contract says. A team can’t release an injured player until he’s cleared. For most rookie contracts, players selected in the third round or later, there’s something called an “up-down,” which is two minimum salaries negotiated in the collective bargaining agreement. The “up” is the minimum active salary, which this season is $420,000, and the “down” ($303,000) is the minimum inactive salary. If a player is injured after eight games, he’s paid eight weeks “up” and nine weeks “down” (eight weeks, plus the bye). For most veterans, there is no “down.” It’s whatever he’s scheduled to earn. If a player gets hurt doing a football-related activity, he’s covered, no matter when it happens. So if he tears his anterior cruciate ligament in a May minicamp, he’s covered. There are also injury settlements, which must be agreed to within five days of a player being placed on injured reserve. Say a player suffers a sprained ankle in training camp and it’s a three-week injury. The team can pay him for those three weeks, then release him. That player is eligible to return to that team after the number of weeks the settlement was for (in this case, three), plus another six weeks. So he would be eligible to return in any capacity by Week 10. That six-week “tax” is put in place so teams can’t stash players by saying they’re injured. If a player suffers an injury doing something unrelated to football, he’s placed on the reserve/non-football injury list. It’s at the discretion of the team whether the player is paid. None of this has anything to do with an injury that happened in one year as it relates to potentially releasing the player the next year. This only applies to injuries that happen in the current league year and how that year plays out. Hence the Eric Fisher situation, hence why Shep is most likely going to take a pay cut. If this were just true no matter the league year, Shep wouldn't have to do anything and would just get paid what his current contract dictates without the threat of being released. Obviously, that's not what's happening nor ever happens in these situations.
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Post by straightrazorman on Mar 3, 2022 16:37:55 GMT -5
His best option. Doesn't have to move his family, gets to try and prove doubters wrong while on the team that drafted him. And no dead money, no?
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Post by giantlegacy on Mar 3, 2022 16:39:30 GMT -5
Hope not. Another forgettable WR. I’d prefer a whole new squad for this new offense. Yeah but for a million or two, he's at least better than undrafted rookies or 3rd 4th stringers in FA. Honestly Issac McKenzie would have been a low cost upgrade and knows the offense But we if this is true save a lot more keeping him and one less hole to fill. Maybe now they jettison Slayton and get an explosive route runner with home run ability Doubs in the 3rd.
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Post by giantlegacy on Mar 3, 2022 16:39:45 GMT -5
His best option. Doesn't have to move his family, gets to try and prove doubters wrong while on the team that drafted him. And no dead money, no? Nope
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Post by giantlegacy on Mar 3, 2022 16:41:30 GMT -5
So I was about to make a post about an unexpected happening with our roster.. If true keeping Shepard for dirt cheap surely is one
Maybe we fan do the same with Martinez..
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Post by Zimonami on Mar 3, 2022 16:51:34 GMT -5
Gallman made about $1M last year, is Booker really any better? If they want to save $2M go ahead, these types of RB's can be found everywhere. I liked Wayne but yes Booker has been a bit better. So they will save 1 mill to sign Wayne Gallman (or equal)? I'd be okay with that but I still do not think you cut Booker if you plan on trading Barkley. I was happy with both of them. I thought Gallman stepped up his effort last year. He even reminded me of Bradshaw's effort in keeping those legs churning when hit. Booker did a nice job too, I thought... IMO, better than Barkley because he didn't dance at the line... he tried to hit the hole fast and he also gave good effort, I'd be happy with either of them... and yes, if we trade SB we need 2 RB's instead of 1. Booker and Gallman would make a happy duo to me... and both Gallman and Booker had bad OL's, so if that improves their output should, too.
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Post by Zimonami on Mar 3, 2022 16:54:16 GMT -5
I think Solder is walking away with a big smile on his face... Are we unique or does every team sign a few aging players who show up, collect their pay and basically contribute nothing? how much incentive do that have to bust their butts? As a successful NFL vet with plenty $$$ already in the bank, why bust your butt? Takes a lot of pride to do it right.
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Post by snyder55 on Mar 3, 2022 16:56:22 GMT -5
Booker is useless though. You get a guy like him a dime a dozen. Why not cut the dead wood? It’s not like any of his contributions mattered in a positive. In other words…he sucked. Looking back, I would have stuck with the decision of keeping Clement. Whatever…both players we can live without. Booker is not important enough to gain this much attention. However, he’s not some piece of shit who wasted a valuable roster spot. See Danny Shelton.. My point is he was a good player who was making chump change in the grand scheme of our salary cap. I get it, he didn’t do enough to cement a roster spot. But, we have more holes in our backfield than target practice. Booker also produced more on the field than Barkley did, at this point in time I think Barkley is more of a wasted roster spot...
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Post by giantlegacy on Mar 3, 2022 16:56:34 GMT -5
I liked Wayne but yes Booker has been a bit better. So they will save 1 mill to sign Wayne Gallman (or equal)? I'd be okay with that but I still do not think you cut Booker if you plan on trading Barkley. I was happy with both of them. I thought Gallman stepped up his effort last year. He even reminded me of Bradshaw's effort in keeping those legs churning when hit. Booker did a nice job too, I thought... IMO, better than Barkley because he didn't dance at the line... he tried to hit the hole fast and he also gave good effort, I'd be happy with either of them... and yes, if we trade SB we need 2 RB's instead of 1. Booker and Gallman would make a happy duo to me... and both Gallman and Booker had bad OL's, so if that improves their output should, too. Watch tape on that guy Pierce from Florida He is what this team probably is looking for (hopefully)..think Morris/Bradshaw... If we do trade Bark we definitely need a vet ...can't have 2 rooks and Brightwell
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Post by jaymas on Mar 3, 2022 17:04:00 GMT -5
His best option. Doesn't have to move his family, gets to try and prove doubters wrong while on the team that drafted him. And no dead money, no? Great point.
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Post by jaymas on Mar 3, 2022 17:06:47 GMT -5
Booker is not important enough to gain this much attention. However, he’s not some piece of shit who wasted a valuable roster spot. See Danny Shelton.. My point is he was a good player who was making chump change in the grand scheme of our salary cap. I get it, he didn’t do enough to cement a roster spot. But, we have more holes in our backfield than target practice. Booker also produced more on the field than Barkley did, at this point in time I think Barkley is more of a wasted roster spot... They had identical yardage output and Barkley played in less games while also playing in games not fully healthy. Yes, Barkley should be much better than Booker and absolutely is when he's healthy...but Booker didn't really produce more. In fact, he produced worse than the guy he replaced, Wayne Gallman, ar at a price that was 2 million more than Gallman. I think nothing has been more overstated than Booker's performance as a Giant.
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Post by Kruunch on Mar 3, 2022 17:36:44 GMT -5
Agreed. Who wants a reliable player on the cheap? Thankfully, we have an often injured Barkley with a nonexistent Brightwell to carry the load. Does it really matter for next season already or I can hope there is regrouped running game A run on sentence has done more than our running game. The only player that was worth a second glance is now in a u-haul truck.
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Post by Roosevelt on Mar 3, 2022 17:39:17 GMT -5
Guys careers can turn on a dime . he's been banged up semi regularly tho. I am sure it happens on many teams but it seem the NYG almost never have their full "1st" team starting for games at a time. Thats with a poor roster too. So then you go to depth on a roster where the many of the starters arent even that good... makes for a shit show I was trying to remember our last rookie that we signed to a second contract that went on to enjoy success with us. I guess it was Eli.
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Post by imgrate on Mar 3, 2022 17:53:32 GMT -5
he's been banged up semi regularly tho. I am sure it happens on many teams but it seem the NYG almost never have their full "1st" team starting for games at a time. Thats with a poor roster too. So then you go to depth on a roster where the many of the starters arent even that good... makes for a shit show I was trying to remember our last rookie that we signed to a second contract that went on to enjoy success with us. I guess it was Eli. Corey webster and justin tuck. Brandon jacobs is arguable.
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Post by GameTime on Mar 3, 2022 17:55:02 GMT -5
he's been banged up semi regularly tho. I am sure it happens on many teams but it seem the NYG almost never have their full "1st" team starting for games at a time. Thats with a poor roster too. So then you go to depth on a roster where the many of the starters arent even that good... makes for a shit show I was trying to remember our last rookie that we signed to a second contract that went on to enjoy success with us. I guess it was Eli. wow... this team hasnt had success in so long.
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Post by giants8493 on Mar 3, 2022 19:01:38 GMT -5
he's been banged up semi regularly tho. I am sure it happens on many teams but it seem the NYG almost never have their full "1st" team starting for games at a time. Thats with a poor roster too. So then you go to depth on a roster where the many of the starters arent even that good... makes for a shit show I was trying to remember our last rookie that we signed to a second contract that went on to enjoy success with us. I guess it was Eli. Cruz was good until he got hurt
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