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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Feb 17, 2024 10:09:14 GMT -5
Like or dislike him, calling him a bust so far before he's even been drafted is simply ridiculous. I think what is meant by that is he is GOING to be a bust. Thats my take anyway. The guy thinks he will be a bust. I agree though. If Caleb Williams slips to the 49ers somehow, still going to say he is going to be a bust? Not sure about that. He has talent, I just dont see #1 overall QB talent, and really worry about his personality. I think you can make that argument by just looking at the top 3 teams Coaching staffs if they are equipped to grow up a guy like him when doing it that means mentally and physically. A lot goes into developing a QB and getting all they have to offer out of them, the kid also has a big part as far as work ethic, does he have the attitude that he is already there or the attitude that he will never be good enough and there is always something he can improve on.
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Post by piddy283 on Feb 17, 2024 10:41:27 GMT -5
Any Tennessee fans? Just started watching some of Joe Milton’s film and he looks pretty good. Absolute cannon of an arm, big frame, can move. I’ve read he has accuracy issues but I watched some of the Alabama game from earlier this year and didn’t notice anything too bad. Seems like an interesting prospect. Think as far as where he is as a QB he reminds a lot of Josh Allen coming out size and arm strength but equally as raw if someone can get him technically sound he could be a steal in this draft. Think he might last to the 4th rd, Allen had that Jayden Daniels like climb back then it was a little surprising to me because of the fact he played against lesser comp and was so raw. At the end of the day Beane and Schoen and company knew what they saw was real and traded twice to get to 7 to go get him so far even this no championships yet he has repaid their trust that he had the mental make up and work ethic to turn his flaws into strengths. Big question as far as a prospect like goes Milton does he have that work ethic and mental make up to over come what ever technical and mental as far as reading DE's anticipation timing and accuracy processing can he improve there. I'm not like a lot of people if they waited on him because they really like him, I would believe they have strong conviction in the fact that he can get him self right from meeting with him and the coaches that have worked with. I might be wrong but I think Schoen and Daboll need to get a QB in here that they chose to run their offense I really don't believe all the smoke coming out of 1925 Giants dr about Jones being the man, there should be urgency to do what ever it takes to get the best possible prospect they can and get it done now. The mental makeup and ability to process defenses might be the most important qualities for any QB. This is my first time really researching QBs and I’ve learned it’s damn near impossible to evaluate those without all-22 film and without meeting the kid in person. You can’t really gauge how well QBs process everything from the standard TV angle. This is why the combine, the pro days, and the all-star games are so important, in my opinion. It gives teams a chance to meet these kids in person and test them mentally.
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Post by bluebuddha on Feb 17, 2024 10:45:52 GMT -5
Like or dislike him, calling him a bust so far before he's even been drafted is simply ridiculous. A lot more goes into getting a kid like him up and rolling not sure if he has the make up to over come if he doesn't land in a spot where they know how to grow a QB. Mahomes is a fantastic QB but man could have been schooled any better they made sure they got every ounce of his god given tenet out of him I mean having Andy Reid as his head coach was huge one of the best offensive minds to ver do it with a back ground as a QB Coach before OC and HC. Having a year to take that raw potential and mold it into what he has become while having a selfless vet in Alex Smith to work with him week in and week out while he lead the chiefs to the playoffs. I would say if you dropped Caleb Williams into that incubator and let him just sit and take it all in with a all time great Coach teaching him every day and an excellent vet tutoring him, last knowing he is starting out with play-off ready team, his chances of reaching his potential go way up. I am with you. The only way out is to trade for a QB that doesn't need a lot of handholding and has upside. Drafting a QB seems to be a lost cause because like you said we just suck at developing QBs.
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Feb 17, 2024 13:05:20 GMT -5
A lot more goes into getting a kid like him up and rolling not sure if he has the make up to over come if he doesn't land in a spot where they know how to grow a QB. Mahomes is a fantastic QB but man could have been schooled any better they made sure they got every ounce of his god given tenet out of him I mean having Andy Reid as his head coach was huge one of the best offensive minds to ver do it with a back ground as a QB Coach before OC and HC. Having a year to take that raw potential and mold it into what he has become while having a selfless vet in Alex Smith to work with him week in and week out while he lead the chiefs to the playoffs. I would say if you dropped Caleb Williams into that incubator and let him just sit and take it all in with a all time great Coach teaching him every day and an excellent vet tutoring him, last knowing he is starting out with play-off ready team, his chances of reaching his potential go way up. I am with you. The only way out is to trade for a QB that doesn't need a lot of handholding and has upside. Drafting a QB seems to be a lost cause because like you said we just suck at developing QBs. I didn't say we suck at it we did there is a new Coach that has been part of being successful at developing a QB some of it is on the QB himself if the only work he puts in is when the team is aloud to have them around more ethan likely he will fail.
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Feb 17, 2024 13:12:03 GMT -5
Think as far as where he is as a QB he reminds a lot of Josh Allen coming out size and arm strength but equally as raw if someone can get him technically sound he could be a steal in this draft. Think he might last to the 4th rd, Allen had that Jayden Daniels like climb back then it was a little surprising to me because of the fact he played against lesser comp and was so raw. At the end of the day Beane and Schoen and company knew what they saw was real and traded twice to get to 7 to go get him so far even this no championships yet he has repaid their trust that he had the mental make up and work ethic to turn his flaws into strengths. Big question as far as a prospect like goes Milton does he have that work ethic and mental make up to over come what ever technical and mental as far as reading DE's anticipation timing and accuracy processing can he improve there. I'm not like a lot of people if they waited on him because they really like him, I would believe they have strong conviction in the fact that he can get him self right from meeting with him and the coaches that have worked with. I might be wrong but I think Schoen and Daboll need to get a QB in here that they chose to run their offense I really don't believe all the smoke coming out of 1925 Giants dr about Jones being the man, there should be urgency to do what ever it takes to get the best possible prospect they can and get it done now. The mental makeup and ability to process defenses might be the most important qualities for any QB. This is my first time really researching QBs and I’ve learned it’s damn near impossible to evaluate those without all-22 film and without meeting the kid in person. You can’t really gauge how well QBs process everything from the standard TV angle. This is why the combine, the pro days, and the all-star games are so important, in my opinion. It gives teams a chance to meet these kids in person and test them mentally. The all star games are big also because just because a QB is off in it what they can see is if they are going to the right place with the the ball are they processing fast enough how they are with anticipatory type throws. your money this is the time they get to talk to them see what they are all about quiz and test them with certain questions they can see how they process things I hope they et a shot at a decent kid I was worried about McCarthy I'm more in favor of them drafting him if they can get out side the top 10 and someone else doesn't grab him.
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Post by Rangers13 on Feb 17, 2024 15:21:48 GMT -5
From one of the rare guys who was an outspoken critic of Johnny Manziel in college when Manziel was a star. After watching 6 games of Caleb Williams Merrill Hodge said, "The one thing is clear is Caleb Williams is not special, he's not unique like a Patrick Mahomes....he ain't even remotely close to that." Doesn't parrot the company narrative. I see why he is no longer employed by ESPN.lol, pretty stupid take. ESPN lost subscribers and parted ways with many.
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Post by DJones19 on Feb 18, 2024 10:22:41 GMT -5
From one of the rare guys who was an outspoken critic of Johnny Manziel in college when Manziel was a star. After watching 6 games of Caleb Williams Merrill Hodge said, "The one thing is clear is Caleb Williams is not special, he's not unique like a Patrick Mahomes....he ain't even remotely close to that." Doesn't parrot the company narrative. I see why he is no longer employed by ESPN. Yet, he had mahomes and watson as 2nd round prospects wgnradio.com/sports/hoge-ranking-the-top-10-quarterbacks-in-the-2017-nfl-draft/amp/Hoge's take that Mahomes is a 2nd round prospect seems cringeworthy now but he also had a lot of good things to say about Mahomes and compared him to Favre in the same article. Mahomes was a popular prospect to hate due to his reckless style. Some liked, it some hated it..but remember a few people going as far as calling him nearly undraftable. Hoge has been more accurate than most with QB evaluations so I put some stock into what he says. Nailed CJ Stroud last year too.
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Post by piddy283 on Feb 19, 2024 20:52:22 GMT -5
First Impression: Potential Top-15 Prospect JJ McCarthy: Now that McCarthy has officially declared for the draft I decided to give a few of his games/film reviews a watch. So far, I've watched the OSU game from 2022, the Ole Miss game from 2023, and various clips I found online. Of the six prospects I've watched so far, I'd say McCarthy and Williams have the best overall pocket presence. McCarthy looks completely natural manipulating the pocket, at keeping his eyes downfield when he breaks the pocket, and he has the arm talent to make every throw. He's one of the few QBs I saw take a snap from under center, but like those other QBs those plays ended up being runs. He consistently attacked down the field and he has enough athleticism to make plays with his legs. Beyond his tangible traits, I like the fact McCarthy has played in more of a traditional offense under Harbaugh for two years, and I like the fact he's played outdoors at Michigan in inclement weather. All-in-all, I'm surprised at how much I liked McCarthy's tape. He looks to have all the tools, his recall and ability to retain information is said to be top notch, and at 19 he's just starting to scratch the surface of his potential.
In terms of negatives, I really didn't see much. My biggest concern with McCarthy is the fact he wasn't asked to do much in a lot of games. Michigan leaned heavily on the running game, and his stats aren't bloated like other QBs playing in spread offenses, so an argument can be made that McCarthy has shown to be nothing more than a game managing QB. His weight may also be a concern as he's only listed at 200lbs, but I imagine he'll naturally add 10-15lbs over the next few years as his body matures. There were also some inconsistencies I noticed with his short/intermediate throws, but nothing overly concerning.
Pros: - Very comfortable in the pocket, looks like a QB
- Able to manipulate pocket - Keeps eyes down field when breaking pocket - Solid athlete, can create chunk plays with legs - Strong arm, can throw 40+ yards on a rope - Willing to attack downfield - Doesn't seem dependent on the sideline pre-snap - Coached by Harbaugh, ran a "traditional" offense - Accustomed to inclement weather playing at Michigan
- Only 19 years old, tons of upside
Cons: - Leaned heavily on run game, wasn't asked to do much - Slight frame, listed at only 200lbs - A bit inconsistent
Looks like McCarthy’s stock continues to rise…..
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Post by TCHOF on Feb 20, 2024 5:59:53 GMT -5
First Impression: Potential Top-15 Prospect JJ McCarthy: Now that McCarthy has officially declared for the draft I decided to give a few of his games/film reviews a watch. So far, I've watched the OSU game from 2022, the Ole Miss game from 2023, and various clips I found online. Of the six prospects I've watched so far, I'd say McCarthy and Williams have the best overall pocket presence. McCarthy looks completely natural manipulating the pocket, at keeping his eyes downfield when he breaks the pocket, and he has the arm talent to make every throw. He's one of the few QBs I saw take a snap from under center, but like those other QBs those plays ended up being runs. He consistently attacked down the field and he has enough athleticism to make plays with his legs. Beyond his tangible traits, I like the fact McCarthy has played in more of a traditional offense under Harbaugh for two years, and I like the fact he's played outdoors at Michigan in inclement weather. All-in-all, I'm surprised at how much I liked McCarthy's tape. He looks to have all the tools, his recall and ability to retain information is said to be top notch, and at 19 he's just starting to scratch the surface of his potential.
In terms of negatives, I really didn't see much. My biggest concern with McCarthy is the fact he wasn't asked to do much in a lot of games. Michigan leaned heavily on the running game, and his stats aren't bloated like other QBs playing in spread offenses, so an argument can be made that McCarthy has shown to be nothing more than a game managing QB. His weight may also be a concern as he's only listed at 200lbs, but I imagine he'll naturally add 10-15lbs over the next few years as his body matures. There were also some inconsistencies I noticed with his short/intermediate throws, but nothing overly concerning.
Pros: - Very comfortable in the pocket, looks like a QB
- Able to manipulate pocket - Keeps eyes down field when breaking pocket - Solid athlete, can create chunk plays with legs - Strong arm, can throw 40+ yards on a rope - Willing to attack downfield - Doesn't seem dependent on the sideline pre-snap - Coached by Harbaugh, ran a "traditional" offense - Accustomed to inclement weather playing at Michigan
- Only 19 years old, tons of upside
Cons: - Leaned heavily on run game, wasn't asked to do much - Slight frame, listed at only 200lbs - A bit inconsistent
Looks like McCarthy’s stock continues to rise….. All these guys with “sources” from their mom’s basement. Giants “love” McCarthy before even meeting him? Please
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Post by piddy283 on Feb 20, 2024 8:46:41 GMT -5
Looks like McCarthy’s stock continues to rise….. All these guys with “sources” from their mom’s basement. Giants “love” McCarthy before even meeting him? Please
Can't blame you for not watching. There's a lot of noise being reported at the moment.
In this video this guy cites various "sources" who claim teams are much higher on JJ than the media and fans. He also mentions the Giants and the Raiders have met with McCarthy already, and their feedback was positive. Apparently those meetings helped JJ in his decision to declare for the draft.
Take it with a grain of salt. I'm not on Twitter so some of these sources may be fake accounts, or whatever, but there seems to be a lot of smoke around JJ right now.
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Post by TCHOF on Feb 20, 2024 10:37:22 GMT -5
All these guys with “sources” from their mom’s basement. Giants “love” McCarthy before even meeting him? Please
Can't blame you for not watching. There's a lot of noise being reported at the moment.
In this video this guy cites various "sources" who claim teams are much higher on JJ than the media and fans. He also mentions the Giants and the Raiders have met with McCarthy already, and their feedback was positive. Apparently those meetings helped JJ in his decision to declare for the draft.
Take it with a grain of salt. I'm not on Twitter so some of these sources may be fake accounts, or whatever, but there seems to be a lot of smoke around JJ right now.
I wasn’t even aware that teams can meet with players before they declare for the draft.
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Post by inconvenientruth on Feb 20, 2024 13:11:56 GMT -5
All these guys with “sources” from their mom’s basement. Giants “love” McCarthy before even meeting him? Please
Can't blame you for not watching. There's a lot of noise being reported at the moment.
In this video this guy cites various "sources" who claim teams are much higher on JJ than the media and fans. He also mentions the Giants and the Raiders have met with McCarthy already, and their feedback was positive. Apparently those meetings helped JJ in his decision to declare for the draft.
Take it with a grain of salt. I'm not on Twitter so some of these sources may be fake accounts, or whatever, but there seems to be a lot of smoke around JJ right now.
The smoke around JJ was inevitable. His base skillset is rare. He will absolutely be a top 10 pick regardless of this Giants take him or not. I think I said back in December this guy was a lock for the top 10.
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Post by piddy283 on Feb 20, 2024 13:40:27 GMT -5
Can't blame you for not watching. There's a lot of noise being reported at the moment.
In this video this guy cites various "sources" who claim teams are much higher on JJ than the media and fans. He also mentions the Giants and the Raiders have met with McCarthy already, and their feedback was positive. Apparently those meetings helped JJ in his decision to declare for the draft.
Take it with a grain of salt. I'm not on Twitter so some of these sources may be fake accounts, or whatever, but there seems to be a lot of smoke around JJ right now.
I wasn’t even aware that teams can meet with players before they declare for the draft. I wasn’t either. Maybe it’s fake news.
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Post by piddy283 on Feb 20, 2024 13:56:12 GMT -5
Can't blame you for not watching. There's a lot of noise being reported at the moment.
In this video this guy cites various "sources" who claim teams are much higher on JJ than the media and fans. He also mentions the Giants and the Raiders have met with McCarthy already, and their feedback was positive. Apparently those meetings helped JJ in his decision to declare for the draft.
Take it with a grain of salt. I'm not on Twitter so some of these sources may be fake accounts, or whatever, but there seems to be a lot of smoke around JJ right now.
The smoke around JJ was inevitable. His base skillset is rare. He will absolutely be a top 10 pick regardless of this Giants take him or not. I think I said back in December this guy was a lock for the top 10. I can still see him falling, so I wouldn’t say he’s a lock for anything, but every year there seems to be one or two QBs who go earlier than originally predicted. I can see McCarthy and Nix both falling into that category, but if I had to pick one I’d say McCarthy due to his age and supposed untapped potential. Ideally, if we were to draft either, it’d be after trading back. The obvious risk would be trading back too far and missing out on both.
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Post by inconvenientruth on Feb 20, 2024 13:58:49 GMT -5
The smoke around JJ was inevitable. His base skillset is rare. He will absolutely be a top 10 pick regardless of this Giants take him or not. I think I said back in December this guy was a lock for the top 10. I can still see him falling, so I wouldn’t say he’s a lock for anything, but every year there seems to be one or two QBs who go earlier than originally predicted. I can see McCarthy and Nix both falling into that category, but if I had to pick one I’d say McCarthy due to his age and supposed untapped potential. Ideally, if we were to draft either, it’d be after trading back. The obvious risk would be trading back too far and missing out on both. I see Nix being a day 2 guy, along with Penix but for different reasons. I dont think the NFL invests a first round pick in Nix with his lack of arm talent. Penix is so good, but injuries will hold him back until day 2 I would think. I would target him in the second. I suspect 4 QB's will be gone in the first 6 picks! wild.
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Post by piddy283 on Feb 20, 2024 14:16:18 GMT -5
I can still see him falling, so I wouldn’t say he’s a lock for anything, but every year there seems to be one or two QBs who go earlier than originally predicted. I can see McCarthy and Nix both falling into that category, but if I had to pick one I’d say McCarthy due to his age and supposed untapped potential. Ideally, if we were to draft either, it’d be after trading back. The obvious risk would be trading back too far and missing out on both. I see Nix being a day 2 guy, along with Penix but for different reasons. I dont think the NFL invests a first round pick in Nix with his lack of arm talent. Penix is so good, but injuries will hold him back until day 2 I would think. I would target him in the second. I suspect 4 QB's will be gone in the first 6 picks! wild. We’re pretty much on the same page. Day-2 wouldn’t shock me for anyone outside the top-3, but if I were a betting man I’d bet 5 QBs go in the 1st with Nix squeaking in there. In terms of Nix specifically, I just haven’t seen the concerns others have. I think his arm is more than capable, I think he does a good job taking what the defense gives him and getting the ball out quick, he’s athletic, he doesn’t turn the ball over, etc. He may not have that rare physical trait like some of the others but I think he’s solid all around. I know I’m in the minority though.
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Post by inconvenientruth on Feb 20, 2024 14:27:50 GMT -5
I see Nix being a day 2 guy, along with Penix but for different reasons. I dont think the NFL invests a first round pick in Nix with his lack of arm talent. Penix is so good, but injuries will hold him back until day 2 I would think. I would target him in the second. I suspect 4 QB's will be gone in the first 6 picks! wild. We’re pretty much on the same page. Day-2 wouldn’t shock me for anyone outside the top-3, but if I were a betting man I’d bet 5 QBs go in the 1st with Nix squeaking in there. In terms of Nix specifically, I just haven’t seen the concerns others have. I think his arm is more than capable, I think he does a good job taking what the defense gives him and getting the ball out quick, he’s athletic, he doesn’t turn the ball over, etc. He may not have that rare physical trait like some of the others but I think he’s solid all around. I know I’m in the minority though. Nah I get the Nix love, I would say his processing is pretty fantastic, might be the best in the draft. Where I see the biggest issue is throwing the ball outside of the numbers, I dont think he's got a strong enough arm to attack that area consistently. After watching Jones I dont want a guy that doesn't/can't attack outside the #'s To be honest, his arm is similar to DJ's, good enough, but they can't consistently make all the throws. However, having a processor is so rare these days, so Nix has that going for him
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Feb 24, 2024 11:16:33 GMT -5
Looks like McCarthy’s stock continues to rise….. All these guys with “sources” from their mom’s basement. Giants “love” McCarthy before even meeting him? Please LOL so true. JJ seems to be QB 4 right now at the combine if he is lights out on the wet board and weighs in at 205 to 210 last runs and throws well he will solidify that 4th spot he is a player the undies olympics can help a ton. Rob Rang and few others think he will climb how high who knows most have him in the first round right now. The question for the Giants is there are gonna be some really top tier position players starring them in the face Tackles WRs Edges and CB and even a generational talent at TE in Bowers that willl all be traded much higher do they chase the QB or do they build. This is a top heavy draft with elite talent 1 through 20 maybe even deeper but once you get into mid 4th maybe 5th the guys there are more like UDFAs of past drafts because so many are staying in school for the money now. So in any case if they decide tetrode up or down concerning a QB this 2 second round picks and their 3rd is worth way more today than yesterday teams will be trying to unload their later round picks for future capital if I'm schoen those top 4 picks are going know where unless they get something extremely valuable in return.
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Feb 25, 2024 19:57:48 GMT -5
All these guys with “sources” from their mom’s basement. Giants “love” McCarthy before even meeting him? Please
Can't blame you for not watching. There's a lot of noise being reported at the moment.
In this video this guy cites various "sources" who claim teams are much higher on JJ than the media and fans. He also mentions the Giants and the Raiders have met with McCarthy already, and their feedback was positive. Apparently those meetings helped JJ in his decision to declare for the draft.
Take it with a grain of salt. I'm not on Twitter so some of these sources may be fake accounts, or whatever, but there seems to be a lot of smoke around JJ right now.
Thats was reported about 3 weeks ago the Raiders and Giants supposedly met with him and told him he is a first round QB JJ is trending up what he does on the board and running throwing this weak will help if he's sharp and fast.
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Post by Analyst on Feb 29, 2024 7:39:26 GMT -5
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Feb 29, 2024 13:20:17 GMT -5
It is unfortunate he has elite arm talent and looks comfortable throwing on the move and from different platforms, just a shame with his head getting filled with everything but work hard on your craft this can make a ll the special things moot.
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Post by piddy283 on Feb 29, 2024 13:48:31 GMT -5
I heard about the ownership thing a couple months back but it seemed like a made up narrative. There were never any sources to validate the claim.
That said, when there's smoke there's fire. Williams' attitude/personality is the only thing that scares me at this point. Even if he ends up being as good as advertised, if any of these stories about him are true imagine how difficult he'll be to work with come 2nd contract.
I think he's the best QB prospect by a good amount, but having the #2 or #3 pick could end up being a blessing in disguise.
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Post by Analyst on Feb 29, 2024 14:02:03 GMT -5
I heard about the ownership thing a couple months back but it seemed like a made up narrative. There were never any sources to validate the claim.
That said, when there's smoke there's fire. Williams' attitude/personality is the only thing that scares me at this point. Even if he ends up being as good as advertised, if any of these stories about him are true imagine how difficult he'll be to work with come 2nd contract.
I think he's the best QB prospect by a good amount, but having the #2 or #3 pick could end up being a blessing in disguise.
Have you seen his splits in games vs top 25 teams and games vs non top 25 teams? Kinda scary. Steep drop off. He hasnt faired well vs the better teams.
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Post by piddy283 on Feb 29, 2024 15:19:09 GMT -5
I heard about the ownership thing a couple months back but it seemed like a made up narrative. There were never any sources to validate the claim.
That said, when there's smoke there's fire. Williams' attitude/personality is the only thing that scares me at this point. Even if he ends up being as good as advertised, if any of these stories about him are true imagine how difficult he'll be to work with come 2nd contract.
I think he's the best QB prospect by a good amount, but having the #2 or #3 pick could end up being a blessing in disguise.
Have you seen his splits in games vs top 25 teams and games vs non top 25 teams? Kinda scary. Steep drop off. He hasnt faired well vs the better teams.
I have not. Still, unless he's a complete nutjob, I'd be surprised if he's not a stud from day-1. He just looks different when watching him. Top-10 floor with MVP potential, in my opinion.
One thing I've noticed trying to watch QBs is how many variables there are to consider compared to other positions. Williams ran for his life on most plays and had no defense to rely on. Maye had very little NFL talent around him. McCarthy played in a run first offense. Daniels style of play could get him killed in the NFL. Nix played in a QB friendly system. It's not nearly as straightforward as evaluating other positions like WR.
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Post by piddy283 on Feb 29, 2024 20:37:00 GMT -5
For anyone interested, here are some highlights of the presumed top-6. I think JustBombsProductions does a good job with their cut ups and they don’t play music over their videos. They keep the game audio which is a nice touch.
Happy watching.
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Post by Analyst on Feb 29, 2024 20:51:57 GMT -5
It is unfortunate he has elite arm talent and looks comfortable throwing on the move and from different platforms, just a shame with his head getting filled with everything but work hard on your craft this can make a ll the special things moot. Another quote from Caleb when asked if he was going to have an agent coming into the NFL: "I'm grown. What would I need that for?" Not a chance in hell I want this diva on the Giants. I hope he goes to Washington so I can hate him even more.
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Post by Analyst on Mar 1, 2024 10:25:04 GMT -5
It is unfortunate he has elite arm talent and looks comfortable throwing on the move and from different platforms, just a shame with his head getting filled with everything but work hard on your craft this can make a ll the special things moot. Another quote from Caleb when asked if he was going to have an agent coming into the NFL: "I'm grown. What would I need that for?" Not a chance in hell I want this diva on the Giants. I hope he goes to Washington so I can hate him even more. And now he said he isn't willing to take any medical exams at the combine for teams. This kid is a nut job. I wonder if there is some collusion going on with a team like Washington so he falls to 2. He certainly doesn't seem to want to go to Chicago. If I'm the Bears I'm trading that pick again.
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Post by te88 on Mar 2, 2024 6:26:40 GMT -5
He’s basically undraftable. He and his father openly want to up-end the structure of the NFL.
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Post by piddy283 on Mar 2, 2024 11:59:27 GMT -5
I've never been as interested to watch the combine as I am today. Between the handful of QBs in play for us and the plethora of WRs who should be available, it should make for a good watch. Not that it matters, but here's what I'm paying attention to.....
QBs:
- Height & Weight of every QB, particularly Daniels
- Arm strength of every QB, particularly Nix & McCarthy
- Overall mobility of every QB, particularly Penix
- Penix's throwing motion, too slow?
- Under the radar QB prospects? Milton, Hartman, Leary, Pittman.....
WRs: - Xavier Legette
- Height/Weight/Speed, particularly Nabers, Odunze, Franklin, McConkey, and Wilson
- Freak athletes, diamonds in the rough
RBs: - Bucky Irving
- Braelon Allen
- Potential replacements for Barkley
- Freak athletes, diamonds in the rough
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Post by Fletch842 on Mar 2, 2024 12:08:19 GMT -5
I've never been as interested to watch the combine as I am today. Between the handful of QBs in play for us and the plethora of WRs who should be available, it should make for a good watch. Not that it matters, but here's what I'm paying attention to.....
QBs:
- Height & Weight of every QB, particularly Daniels
- Arm strength of every QB, particularly Nix & McCarthy
- Overall mobility of every QB, particularly Penix
- Penix's throwing motion, too slow?
- Under the radar QB prospects? Milton, Hartman, Leary, Pittman.....
WRs: - Xavier Legette
- Height/Weight/Speed, particularly Nabers, Odunze, Franklin, McConkey, and Wilson
- Freak athletes, diamonds in the rough
RBs: - Bucky Irving
- Braelon Allen
- Potential replacements for Barkley
- Freak athletes, diamonds in the rough
should be a fun day for sure!!
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