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Post by inconvenientruth on Apr 28, 2024 18:24:23 GMT -5
Gone are the days practice squad WRs holding our offence back!
We never drafted an OL this year, so the front office believe we should be average on this front. So do I. Andrew Thomas + average OL all around is a pretty solid unit.
Tracey Jr will be a chess piece third down weapon, Singletary will be a great 1st/2nd runner and will be more consistent than Saquon.
Yards: 4250 (250 YPG)
Passing Tds: 30 (1.7 TDs/game)
INTs: 10
We can leave rushing out as with the ACL, and a receiving corps of Nabers, Hyatt/Slayton, Wan Dale + Bellenger/Theo (both absolutely athletic freaks/mismatches) should increase our propensity to throw the ball
Separation issues are a thing of the past.
250 YPG and 1.7 TDs/game is low hanging fruit - right? We have held Daniel back for too long, looking forward to watching him thrive
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Post by lasion2 on Apr 28, 2024 18:30:27 GMT -5
I expect him to play poorly because he isn’t a starting caliber quarterback.
Drew Lock will be starting by October 15th.
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Post by Danke Schoen on Apr 28, 2024 18:45:25 GMT -5
What I want: Wins. With him being a major/productive contributor.
What I expect: Status quo. With the usual suspects making every excuse under the sun for him.
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Post by jaymas on Apr 28, 2024 18:55:36 GMT -5
If Daniel Jones status quos with Nabers in this offense, he's actually worse than I think.
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Post by McCherry on Apr 28, 2024 18:56:25 GMT -5
I expect him to play poorly because he isn’t a starting caliber quarterback. Drew Lock will be starting by October 15th. Drew Lock sure as hell isn't a starting caliber QB. |
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Post by miggs on Apr 28, 2024 19:02:18 GMT -5
Teams looks better on paper than it did two years ago.
Hope Beavers can contribute this year, and DL is deep enough. Corners and Safety are still a concern.
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Post by Danke Schoen on Apr 28, 2024 19:04:56 GMT -5
I expect him to play poorly because he isn’t a starting caliber quarterback. Drew Lock will be starting by October 15th. Drew Lock sure as hell isn't a starting caliber QB. Everyone said the same thing about Geno Smith. |
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Post by lasion2 on Apr 28, 2024 19:05:06 GMT -5
I expect him to play poorly because he isn’t a starting caliber quarterback. Drew Lock will be starting by October 15th. Drew Lock sure as hell isn't a starting caliber QB. Oh I’m not beating the drum for Lock by any means. Just giving my expectations. With the injury clause and all I don’t expect DJ to be taking snaps if he plays how we think he’s going to play. |
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Post by miggs on Apr 28, 2024 19:06:23 GMT -5
Teams looks better on paper than it did two years ago. Hope Beavers can contribute this year, and DL is deep enough. Corners and Safety are still a concern. Just hope the OL holds up so Jones can bring out the best in Daboll, and he'll not have carry the team as he and Barkley did two years ago. |
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Post by Danke Schoen on Apr 28, 2024 19:07:22 GMT -5
Teams looks better on paper than it did two years ago. Hope Beavers can contribute this year, and DL is deep enough. Corners and Safety are still a concern. Just hope the OL holds up so Jones can bring out the best in Daboll, and he'll not have carry the team as he and Barkley did two years ago. You mean when Daboll neutered the offense to bring out the "best" in Jones? FFS Miggs/Mendy, you're insufferable. |
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Post by Rangers13 on Apr 28, 2024 19:09:41 GMT -5
Expect him to run for 1st downs and the broadcast praising his athletic ability even though receivers were open downfield.
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Post by inconvenientruth on Apr 28, 2024 19:12:18 GMT -5
Teams looks better on paper than it did two years ago. Hope Beavers can contribute this year, and DL is deep enough. Corners and Safety are still a concern. Just hope the OL holds up so Jones can bring out the best in Daboll, and he'll not have carry the team as he and Barkley did two years ago. So define your expectations.. numerically. If Daboll thought OL was any more an issue they would have drafted an OL. Expect it to be good/average for this exercise. Not that OL alone should derail a good QBs play but I digress |
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Post by miggs on Apr 28, 2024 19:13:58 GMT -5
Just hope the OL holds up so Jones can bring out the best in Daboll, and he'll not have carry the team as he and Barkley did two years ago. You mean when Daboll neutered the offense to bring out the "best" in Jones? FFS Miggs/Mendy, you're insufferable. We had to listen to your crap that Giants had to replace Jones. .lJones carried the Giants two years ago and had to overcome Daboll's crap no play calling in the first half of games and playing behind a bad offensive line. Stop with the put downs of Jones. At least Schoen is smarter than you. |
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Post by Danke Schoen on Apr 28, 2024 19:17:32 GMT -5
You mean when Daboll neutered the offense to bring out the "best" in Jones? FFS Miggs/Mendy, you're insufferable. We had to listen to your crap that Giants had to replace Jones. This is where you show everyone that you’re a ****ing blowhard and overly sensitive fanboy. I’m literally on record saying not to draft a QB this past draft. Seriously you’re a ****ing moron when it comes to the NFL and forums. |
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Post by TopleyBird on Apr 28, 2024 19:17:42 GMT -5
Perhaps he won't be ready to go week 1 due to injuries. Drew Lock comes in and performs admirably and is named the starter moving forward. That would be ideal.
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Post by miggs on Apr 28, 2024 19:18:07 GMT -5
Just hope the OL holds up so Jones can bring out the best in Daboll, and he'll not have carry the team as he and Barkley did two years ago. So define your expectations.. numerically. If Daboll thought OL was any more an issue they would have drafted an OL. Expect it to be good/average for this exercise. Not that OL alone should derail a good QBs play but I digress I would like to be positive but roster so thin that a significant injury could do Giants in. Still not sure of OL, and Schoen drafting of Neal and not upgrading OL last season hurt the Giants big-time. |
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Post by Analyst on Apr 28, 2024 19:19:25 GMT -5
If Daniel Jones status quos with Nabers in this offense, he's actually worse than I think. Will Nabers be more impactful than Saquon Barkley? Doubtful. Go check out DJs splits with and without SQB. |
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Post by Analyst on Apr 28, 2024 19:20:56 GMT -5
I expect the same old same old.
If he throws for 10 TDs on the year I'll be surprised.
Lock will play most the year with some DeVito sprinkled in.
And we get ****ed in 2025 with DJs injury clause that Joe Schoen inexplicably let him have.
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Post by Danke Schoen on Apr 28, 2024 19:22:05 GMT -5
I expect the same old same old. If he throws for 10 TDs on the year I'll be surprised. Lock will play most the year with some DeVito sprinkled in. You’ll be surprised but the usual suspects will be claiming “great production and pro bowl-esque performances.” |
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Post by Modog on Apr 28, 2024 19:59:42 GMT -5
What will the excuses be next year when Dan Jones once again fails to throw more than 16 TDs and 3500 yds?
My prediction, Dan Jones starts day one and stinks likes he always does, we get our teeth kicked in by eagles and cowboys like always..even Washington is better now too...Dan Jones gets injured like he always does, probably by running head first into a LB after a 3 yard run. Reinjuring his neck.. Then we win a couple games with our backups. We finish 3-13 with the 2nd overall pick, only Panthers are worse. To add insult, the following draft is among the worst in QB reminds me of 2019 draft.. perhaps we reach on another qB that catches Maras eye??
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Post by Roosevelt on Apr 28, 2024 20:03:45 GMT -5
What I want: Wins. With him being a major/productive contributor. What I expect: Status quo. With the usual suspects making every excuse under the sun for him. I remember the first time I saw this family of Giants fans after we won our first Super Bowl and I gave them the business as they rightly deserved for their comments that Simms sucked and we could never win the Super Bowl with him.
So what was their reaction? Ah, he got lucky.
FFS, when we're wrong we need to man up. If Jones gets decent protection and plays poorly there should be no excuses.
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Post by Roosevelt on Apr 28, 2024 20:05:56 GMT -5
What will the excuses be next year when Dan Jones once again fails to throw more than 16 TDs and 3500 yds? My prediction, Dan Jones starts day one and stinks likes he always does, we get our teeth kicked in by eagles and cowboys like always..even Washington is better now too...Dan Jones gets injured like he always does, probably by running head first into a LB after a 3 yard run... Then we win a couple games with our backups. If Jones throws for 21 TD's and 3700 yds and we end up in the Championship game would you still be hung up on his stats? |
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Apr 28, 2024 20:06:45 GMT -5
If Daniel Jones status quos with Nabers in this offense, he's actually worse than I think. Will Nabers be more impactful than Saquon Barkley? Doubtful. Go check out DJs splits with and without SQB. It does from ugly to uglier Jones will now have everything he didn't if he can't cook he is done. 5 years and an average 2022 is the best we have seen don't see this changing much if at all my expectation is Lock will be playing by Nov 1 |
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Post by GameTime on Apr 28, 2024 20:12:44 GMT -5
1) get healthy
2) play well
3) stay healthy
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Apr 28, 2024 20:16:14 GMT -5
What I want: Wins. With him being a major/productive contributor. What I expect: Status quo. With the usual suspects making every excuse under the sun for him. I remember the first time I saw this family of Giants fans after we won our first Super Bowl and I gave them the business as they rightly deserved for their comments that Simms sucked and we could never win the Super Bowl with him.
So what was their reaction? Ah, he got lucky.
FFS, when we're wrong we need to man up. If Jones gets decent protection and plays poorly there should be no excuses.
Exactly he has guys who can lay around him now and rookie he needs to lead and work with because he can be lethal Jones needs to be more than a game manager he needs to be a leader and a play maker. If he doesn't do those things then I don't care if he's making 60 mill next year he sits or is cut and they roll with Lock or a vet till they can a QB by draft or trade. |
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Post by Modog on Apr 28, 2024 20:16:43 GMT -5
What will the excuses be next year when Dan Jones once again fails to throw more than 16 TDs and 3500 yds? My prediction, Dan Jones starts day one and stinks likes he always does, we get our teeth kicked in by eagles and cowboys like always..even Washington is better now too...Dan Jones gets injured like he always does, probably by running head first into a LB after a 3 yard run... Then we win a couple games with our backups. If Jones throws for 21 TD's and 3700 yds and we end up in the Championship game would you still be hung up on his stats? If that was the case it would mean we had a top level Defense and excellent running game, sorta like old times. As long as Djs plays the game manager role well, which I always thought was his ceiling, I wont complain. Not saying I would become his fan though |
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Post by Rangers13 on Apr 28, 2024 20:19:25 GMT -5
What will the excuses be next year when Dan Jones once again fails to throw more than 16 TDs and 3500 yds? My prediction, Dan Jones starts day one and stinks likes he always does, we get our teeth kicked in by eagles and cowboys like always..even Washington is better now too...Dan Jones gets injured like he always does, probably by running head first into a LB after a 3 yard run... Then we win a couple games with our backups. If Jones throws for 21 TD's and 3700 yds and we end up in the Championship game would you still be hung up on his stats? I would trade him lol maybe before the game so I sell high |
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Apr 28, 2024 20:19:35 GMT -5
1) get healthy 2) play well 3) stay healthy They will need health to get that new OL on the same page, that was a huge part of teh embarrassing start last year was the health of the OL and SQB |
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Post by Danke Schoen on Apr 28, 2024 20:32:11 GMT -5
What I want: Wins. With him being a major/productive contributor. What I expect: Status quo. With the usual suspects making every excuse under the sun for him. I remember the first time I saw this family of Giants fans after we won our first Super Bowl and I gave them the business as they rightly deserved for their comments that Simms sucked and we could never win the Super Bowl with him. So what was their reaction? Ah, he got lucky. FFS, when we're wrong we need to man up. If Jones gets decent protection and plays poorly there should be no excuses.
At this point Jones has no excuses (really for two seasons now but his crew will always make them). He has to elevate his play and be a very productive contributor to wins. Period. And if he ever takes the Giants to the Super Bowl and goes 22-25, 270 yards, 3 TDs and 0 INTs en route to a blow out win… I’ll get an entire back tattoo of his face. |
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Post by vinnie on Apr 28, 2024 20:32:19 GMT -5
I think he’ll have his best season ever and it will get him another year but it will also be clear he’s not the long term solution. This Jones saga will continue to draw out for at least 2 more years while the rest of the team wastes away. We’ll be a fringe or 1 win playoff team within the next two years but be held back by the QB.
Jones will be Dak 1.5; see dallas cowboys since dak has been QB. Dak continues to have a few supporters due to his regular season stats, primarily against bad teams but most of the fan base wants him gone because they know he doesn’t have what it takes, that’s where I see us headed. In the meantime, a more competent QB who doesn’t fold under pressure probably would have won them a SB by now or at least got them to the Championship game.
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