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Post by Danke Schoen on Apr 29, 2024 9:58:14 GMT -5
This interview? Simms on Lock starts at 13:17 Thanks for posting this as it reinforces why I enjoy listening to Phil talk about football. Phil knows his shit as opposed to so many others who simply talk shit.
I'll also add that I think Pat Leonard does a good job with this. The guy obviously studies the game and works hard. If he would avoid drama and stick to football he'd be okay in my book. Yeah when I’d first found that video I was like, “oh great Pat Leonard.” But after watching it I thought, “why TF can’t this guy always act like this?”
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Post by Rangers13 on Apr 29, 2024 9:59:45 GMT -5
ok, Jones just came off a season throwing 30 TDs, signed a new contract this year and Lock will beat him out. nice work 👍 New contract has nothing to do with the amount of TDs they threw. they both signed new contracts and will be the QB this year. Everyone can hope that Lock will do what Jones hasn't and that is improve a ton. yeah ok. Look again at the contracts rather than hide behind a refinancing e of Geno, Just keep taking out all the variables to fit your take.
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Post by inthezone on Apr 29, 2024 10:04:09 GMT -5
New contract has nothing to do with the amount of TDs they threw. they both signed new contracts and will be the QB this year. Everyone can hope that Lock will do what Jones hasn't and that is improve a ton. yeah ok. Look again at the contracts rather than hide behind a refinancing e of Geno, Just keep taking out all the variables to fit your take. You are the one adding in the variables. They both signed big contracts if it's a good enough reason for one it has to be for the other unless you aren't consistent which I never thought that about about you until now. You must be playing around and have nothing better to do with your time. Go Giants!
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Post by Rangers13 on Apr 29, 2024 10:09:20 GMT -5
yeah ok. Look again at the contracts rather than hide behind a refinancing e of Geno, Just keep taking out all the variables to fit your take. You are the one adding in the variables. They both signed big contracts if it's a good enough reason for one it has to be for the other unless you aren't consistent which I never thought that about about you until now. You must be playing around and have nothing better to do with your time. Go Giants! of course, just dismiss being off a full year off contract wise and don’t compare 30TDs to an injured QB. Endorse that Lock didn’t beat out a QB coming off those stats and a new contract and compare it to Jones who didn’t play most of last season and may not start this season. same scenario. Sure 👍. Real nice
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Post by 3days on Apr 29, 2024 10:43:06 GMT -5
I remember the first time I saw this family of Giants fans after we won our first Super Bowl and I gave them the business as they rightly deserved for their comments that Simms sucked and we could never win the Super Bowl with him. So what was their reaction? Ah, he got lucky. FFS, when we're wrong we need to man up. If Jones gets decent protection and plays poorly there should be no excuses. At this point Jones has no excuses (really for two seasons now but his crew will always make them). He has to elevate his play and be a very productive contributor to wins. Period. And if he ever takes the Giants to the Super Bowl and goes 22-25, 270 yards, 3 TDs and 0 INTs en route to a blow out win… I’ll get an entire back tattoo of his face. On this we agree. If he can’t perform well with what I believe is a greatly improved line and clearly improved weapons, then it is time to move on. If it was a year ago I would be very confident that our offense will lead this team, but I can’t ignore last year.
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Post by Kruunch on Apr 29, 2024 10:56:45 GMT -5
At this point Jones has no excuses (really for two seasons now but his crew will always make them). He has to elevate his play and be a very productive contributor to wins. Period. And if he ever takes the Giants to the Super Bowl and goes 22-25, 270 yards, 3 TDs and 0 INTs en route to a blow out win… I’ll get an entire back tattoo of his face. Calling it right now ”He’s coming off an ACL injury, that takes time” ”The O line needs more time to gel” ”He hasn’t had any time to work with his new “weapons” ”He’s still shell shocked from last season” ”Wait until next year” I predict day drinking in the near future.. If he’s a tireless worker to the point of exhaustion. Puts together a Lou Gehrig type streak of not missing a snap all season. And doesn’t need to be carried all over the field. He just might work his way up to being pathetic.
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Post by idkaname on Apr 29, 2024 11:25:46 GMT -5
and everything that was said about Jones was said about smith...hmmm. Maybe the fact that he got weapons changed his game? oh wow what a concept The Seattle OL was not good. Yet the QB still made plays. Oh wow, what a concept. Still better than the Giants? and keep deflecting. I didn't say Oline, I said weapons. They actually had players that had 1000+ yard seasons before Jones has never had one in their while still possessing the ability. but since you brought it up.... Geno protection rate 2022: 83.7% 15th in the league Jones protection rate 2022: 80.4% 23rd in the league 2022 Geno "danger plays" (could have / should've been picked) - 46 most in the league 2022 Geno interceptable passes (hands on ball or deflected into air near defenders) - 41 most in the league 2022 Jones "danger plays" - 18 (33rd - 32 QBs had worst numbers) 2022 Jones interceptable passes - 15th in the league Last year (2023) Geno got pressured more - 79.8% which was still less than Jones in 2022 and went 6-3 to start the year before crumbling and going 2-4 and getting benched for Drew Lock, . Btw he went 13-20 for 110 yards against us in week 4 before our defense was playing even ok. He had less than double drew locks yards and he had 2 completions LOL yeah I'm not sure you got anything going for you buddy
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Post by Danke Schoen on Apr 29, 2024 11:31:01 GMT -5
The Seattle OL was not good. Yet the QB still made plays. Oh wow, what a concept. Still better than the Giants? and keep deflecting. I didn't say Oline, I said weapons. They actually had players that had 1000+ yard seasons before Jones has never had one in their while still possessing the ability. So Jones doesn’t produce productive WRs? Shocking. Cool. More 2022 stats. Maybe we can all watch his 2019 highlight reel as well.
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Post by imgrate on Apr 29, 2024 11:45:43 GMT -5
I expect him to play poorly because he isn’t a starting caliber quarterback. Drew Lock will be starting by October 15th. Drew Lock sure as hell isn't a starting caliber QB. Yea but he doesnt have a huge injury clause, either. Sooo, if DJ sucks, might as well play the other sucky QB so we dont get stuck
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Post by vinnie on Apr 29, 2024 12:31:03 GMT -5
Lol, geez, I have higher hopes for DJ than some of you, but as I said, I think his results be good enough for the fan boys to want to give him another year which I think will happen but clearly not good enough for most of us to think he can win big games in the playoffs. This is me being the most optimistic I can about DJ.
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Post by inconvenientruth on Apr 29, 2024 13:12:51 GMT -5
If the o line is 16th best line in the league, and Nabers and Robinson stay healthy, Jones could have a great year. The discussion is around the probability of that happening. He’s going to have to trust his line and somehow learn to cycle through his progressions in a way that he’s struggled to do so. I think the probability of him having a great year is 20%. Having a 22’ year is 50%, him having a 23’ year is 30%. Yes these are completely arbitrary percentages. Once again, it has less to do with Jones and more to do with the line this year. If the OL was such a large variable, moreso than QB play. Why did the FO not draft a single lineman? Particularly, considering it was the best class i've ever seen. In theory, they signed two average NFL OL in FA, with JMS and with IMO the best LT in football and I strongly believe we're a better off than most NFL units. If its true Neal was playing hurt last year, any improvement we get from him is a bonus, perhaps he finds form at his old college position of LG. I expect our new OC coach with a whole offseason of working with these players to get Neal and JMS to average NFL ability. All in all, the 16th best OL is expected now as per my OP, more than enough to judge Jones's play in isolation, in this situation, its no longer a crutch. With Jones salary taking up ~20% of next years cap hit, you cant expect to have a better offensive situation than what we have for Jones this year. Having a top-5 NFL talent at WR like Nabers on a cost controlled deal with the best LT in football is a phenomenal base. Slayton + Wan Dale with Hyatt running deep routes is a fantastic receiving core. This only works because we're not paying any of WRs market value. Its the only way to get by with the Jones cap hit. If our OL is not average in 2024-2025, we have a series of miscalculations from our GM, starting from year 1. is that fair?
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Post by inconvenientruth on Apr 29, 2024 13:52:56 GMT -5
Drew Lock sure as hell isn't a starting caliber QB. Yea but he doesnt have a huge injury clause, either. Sooo, if DJ sucks, might as well play the other sucky QB so we dont get stuck good point, I keep writing off Luck. regardless, will be interesting to see production splits between Luck/Jones with the same talent surrounding them. Unlike Jones, Luck throws deep, and we have the weapons that are built for this type of offence.
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Post by cdngfan on Apr 29, 2024 14:02:58 GMT -5
If the o line is 16th best line in the league, and Nabers and Robinson stay healthy, Jones could have a great year. The discussion is around the probability of that happening. He’s going to have to trust his line and somehow learn to cycle through his progressions in a way that he’s struggled to do so. I think the probability of him having a great year is 20%. Having a 22’ year is 50%, him having a 23’ year is 30%. Yes these are completely arbitrary percentages. Once again, it has less to do with Jones and more to do with the line this year. If the OL was such a large variable, moreso than QB play. Why did the FO not draft a single lineman? Particularly, considering it was the best class i've ever seen. In theory, they signed two average NFL OL in FA, with JMS and with IMO the best LT in football and I strongly believe we're a better off than most NFL units. If its true Neal was playing hurt last year, any improvement we get from him is a bonus, perhaps he finds form at his old college position of LG. I expect our new OC coach with a whole offseason of working with these players to get Neal and JMS to average NFL ability. All in all, the 16th best OL is expected now as per my OP, more than enough to judge Jones's play in isolation, in this situation, its no longer a crutch. With Jones salary taking up ~20% of next years cap hit, you cant expect to have a better offensive situation than what we have for Jones this year. Having a top-5 NFL talent at WR like Nabers on a cost controlled deal with the best LT in football is a phenomenal base. Slayton + Wan Dale with Hyatt running deep routes is a fantastic receiving core. This only works because we're not paying any of WRs market value. Its the only way to get by with the Jones cap hit. If our OL is not average in 2024-2025, we have a series of miscalculations from our GM, starting from year 1. is that fair? they didn’t sign a single lineman because they diagnosed the problem as health and coaching. We’re 1/FA/2/FA/1 as the origin story of our starting o line. Lots of high draft capital invested in the line. I think the typical fan reaction is “of course we fired the o line coach” but that’s the convenience of the view from the cheap seats. Dabs fired his friend. He didn’t do that because he needs to show he’s doing something. They clearly thought that coaching was part of the problem. They also didn’t hire an “up and coming” 1st time o line coach. They hired a guy who took 5th rd talent and a UDFA who played in the CFL and turned it into the line I’m hoping we’ll be (16th). Their FAs were average but have very good durability, between the two they’ve lost a handful of games due to injury over the last 3 years. Hope that continues. I think this “there’s no more excuses now right?” is a fan narrative, not an HC or FO narrative. If he struggles like he did in 23’ they’ll put him on ice and he’s gone. If he plays like he did in 22’, he may still be gone. Where this gets weird is if we start winning and the offence actually surprises opponents. So did you establish some trade value or does he get another year? Anything short of that I think he’s gone. And if the o line is still a problem by the end of 25’ ownership will flush the toilet on this FO. Every team in the league other than maybe 6 or 7 need to upgrade their QB. 2/3rd of the league are trying to find a way to win with imperfection at QB.
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Post by inconvenientruth on Apr 29, 2024 14:24:01 GMT -5
If the OL was such a large variable, moreso than QB play. Why did the FO not draft a single lineman? Particularly, considering it was the best class i've ever seen. In theory, they signed two average NFL OL in FA, with JMS and with IMO the best LT in football and I strongly believe we're a better off than most NFL units. If its true Neal was playing hurt last year, any improvement we get from him is a bonus, perhaps he finds form at his old college position of LG. I expect our new OC coach with a whole offseason of working with these players to get Neal and JMS to average NFL ability. All in all, the 16th best OL is expected now as per my OP, more than enough to judge Jones's play in isolation, in this situation, its no longer a crutch. With Jones salary taking up ~20% of next years cap hit, you cant expect to have a better offensive situation than what we have for Jones this year. Having a top-5 NFL talent at WR like Nabers on a cost controlled deal with the best LT in football is a phenomenal base. Slayton + Wan Dale with Hyatt running deep routes is a fantastic receiving core. This only works because we're not paying any of WRs market value. Its the only way to get by with the Jones cap hit. If our OL is not average in 2024-2025, we have a series of miscalculations from our GM, starting from year 1. is that fair? they didn’t sign a single lineman because they diagnosed the problem as health and coaching. We’re 1/FA/2/FA/1 as the origin story of our starting o line. Lots of high draft capital invested in the line. I think the typical fan reaction is “of course we fired the o line coach” but that’s the convenience of the view from the cheap seats. Dabs fired his friend. He didn’t do that because he needs to show he’s doing something. They clearly thought that coaching was part of the problem. They also didn’t hire an “up and coming” 1st time o line coach. They hired a guy who took 5th rd talent and a UDFA who played in the CFL and turned it into the line I’m hoping we’ll be (16th). Their FAs were average but have very good durability, between the two they’ve lost a handful of games due to injury over the last 3 years. Hope that continues. I think this “there’s no more excuses now right?” is a fan narrative, not an HC or FO narrative. If he struggles like he did in 23’ they’ll put him on ice and he’s gone. If he plays like he did in 22’, he may still be gone. Where this gets weird is if we start winning and the offence actually surprises opponents. So did you establish some trade value or does he get another year? Anything short of that I think he’s gone. And if the o line is still a problem by the end of 25’ ownership will flush the toilet on this FO. Every team in the league other than maybe 6 or 7 need to upgrade their QB. 2/3rd of the league are trying to find a way to win with imperfection at QB. mostly agree with all of this! But i will say that for the 2/3rd of the league thats looking for QB's, there are various tiers of play between these QB's, they are by no means equivalent. I believe we are in the bottom rung, our FO believes otherwise. This is there year to prove it and man, would I love to be wrong and eating all the crow. Because, truly, relevance in the NFL is all I want.
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Post by inconvenientruth on Apr 29, 2024 14:28:40 GMT -5
I know Joe Schoen is preaching "patience" but its a tough sell, at this point. Year 3, we should be expecting results and vying for a playoff win with a 26 year old QB that he just signed, a calendar year ago.
We as a fan base should have the highest of expectations for Daniel Jones, and the front office that backed him. After all, his is the 5th highest cap hit in the NFL in 2024-2025 - whats that buy you?
Despite this massive hit, the supporting cast is there for Jones. Lets see how it goes, now Mara can shut his pie hole about "never" helping DJ. Despite this being abjectly false, then. Now, this narrative doesn't exist at all. Time to produce. Im actually glad we can finally use this 2024-2025 season to put narrative(s) to rest, no matter where you sat on this fence.
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Post by TEM on Apr 29, 2024 14:50:16 GMT -5
This thread is about as upbeat as being stuck 20-mile traffic jam with one hour to catch your flight to Tahiti.
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Post by nyg2 on Apr 29, 2024 14:52:22 GMT -5
At this point Jones has no excuses (really for two seasons now but his crew will always make them). He has to elevate his play and be a very productive contributor to wins. Period. And if he ever takes the Giants to the Super Bowl and goes 22-25, 270 yards, 3 TDs and 0 INTs en route to a blow out win… I’ll get an entire back tattoo of his face. Calling it right now ”He’s coming off an ACL injury, that takes time” ”The O line needs more time to gel” ”He hasn’t had any time to work with his new “weapons” ”He’s still shell shocked from last season” ”Wait until next year” You forget the final coping piece: "Jones was good, but the Giants actually broke him"
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Post by vinnie on Apr 29, 2024 15:01:17 GMT -5
Calling it right now ”He’s coming off an ACL injury, that takes time” ”The O line needs more time to gel” ”He hasn’t had any time to work with his new “weapons” ”He’s still shell shocked from last season” ”Wait until next year” You forget the final coping piece: "Jones was good, but the Giants actually broke him" 🤣 I came damn close to putting that, don’t know why I didn’t. That may be the worst excuse of all, along with shell shocked. If either are indeed true and are valid then they are acknowledging he’s damaged goods and we should move on/have moved on anyways, regardless of the cause.
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Post by vinnie on Apr 29, 2024 15:12:51 GMT -5
they didn’t sign a single lineman because they diagnosed the problem as health and coaching. We’re 1/FA/2/FA/1 as the origin story of our starting o line. Lots of high draft capital invested in the line. I think the typical fan reaction is “of course we fired the o line coach” but that’s the convenience of the view from the cheap seats. Dabs fired his friend. He didn’t do that because he needs to show he’s doing something. They clearly thought that coaching was part of the problem. They also didn’t hire an “up and coming” 1st time o line coach. They hired a guy who took 5th rd talent and a UDFA who played in the CFL and turned it into the line I’m hoping we’ll be (16th). Their FAs were average but have very good durability, between the two they’ve lost a handful of games due to injury over the last 3 years. Hope that continues. I think this “there’s no more excuses now right?” is a fan narrative, not an HC or FO narrative. If he struggles like he did in 23’ they’ll put him on ice and he’s gone. If he plays like he did in 22’, he may still be gone. Where this gets weird is if we start winning and the offence actually surprises opponents. So did you establish some trade value or does he get another year? Anything short of that I think he’s gone. And if the o line is still a problem by the end of 25’ ownership will flush the toilet on this FO. Every team in the league other than maybe 6 or 7 need to upgrade their QB. 2/3rd of the league are trying to find a way to win with imperfection at QB. mostly agree with all of this! But i will say that for the 2/3rd of the league thats looking for QB's, there are various tiers of play between these QB's, they are by no means equivalent. I believe we are in the bottom rung, our FO believes otherwise. This is there year to prove it and man, would I love to be wrong and eating all the crow. Because, truly, relevance in the NFL is all I want. Relevance is a mighty low bar to set and I think a lot of fans would be happy with that unfortunately. Year 3 of a rebuild, with multiple 1st and 2nd round picks scattered throughout the offense and defense (especially offense) I expect them to be competitive against the best teams in the league and beat the bad teams by double digits every time they play them, not the occasional game here and there. I want to see consistency, good consistency, on both sides of the ball throughout the season. I want to see Jones go through his reads, not stare down receivers and make good decisions. I want to see Thibs contain the run and show up in big games regularly, like he’s supposed to do for where we drafted him. Stopping the run would be nice but we didn’t do shit to address that, maybe the new DC has something up his sleeve.
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Post by nyg2 on Apr 29, 2024 15:15:15 GMT -5
Calling it right now ”He’s coming off an ACL injury, that takes time” ”The O line needs more time to gel” ”He hasn’t had any time to work with his new “weapons” ”He’s still shell shocked from last season” ”Wait until next year” lets’s start with the off-season hype and really spike the drinks with Dottino cheerleading oh, and we have a new DC and had simplify the defense. Years ago, I use to listen to "Big Blue Kickoff" which had Dottino as one of the cohosts since they would bring on different scouts, college coaches, etc.. during the offseason and I used to think they were fairly knowledgeable and were able to disagree with decisions that they thought were clearly terrible, but man was I wrong. Yeah Dottino does review a lot of prospects since it is his job, but he was one of the biggest shills out there to the point that he became insufferable. One example was during the beginning of the Gettleman tenure he was one of the apologists that was pushing this narrative that the Giants aren't "rebuilding", they're "retooling" and thus the Giants can still compete, while looking towards to future. Lol.
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Post by Rangers13 on Apr 29, 2024 15:33:06 GMT -5
lets’s start with the off-season hype and really spike the drinks with Dottino cheerleading oh, and we have a new DC and had simplify the defense. Years ago, I use to listen to "Big Blue Kickoff" which had Dottino as one of the cohosts since they would bring on different scouts, college coaches, etc.. during the offseason and I used to think they were fairly knowledgeable and were able to disagree with decisions that they thought were clearly terrible, but man was I wrong. Yeah Dottino does review a lot of prospects since it is his job, but he was one of the biggest shills out there to the point that he became insufferable. One example was during the beginning of the Gettleman tenure he was one of the apologists that was pushing this narrative that the Giants aren't "rebuilding", they're "retooling" and thus the Giants can still compete, while looking towards to future. Lol. Dottino has a good gig. Just applaud every move and we will pay you. Imagine the interview. Pat Hanlon - “Here we have 4 awful players, what will you tell the fans?” Dottino - “i think all have the potential to be great as they want to be” Pat Hanlon. “We’re prepared to make you an offer” Dottino. - “should I remain on my knees?”
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Post by cdngfan on Apr 29, 2024 15:38:31 GMT -5
they didn’t sign a single lineman because they diagnosed the problem as health and coaching. We’re 1/FA/2/FA/1 as the origin story of our starting o line. Lots of high draft capital invested in the line. I think the typical fan reaction is “of course we fired the o line coach” but that’s the convenience of the view from the cheap seats. Dabs fired his friend. He didn’t do that because he needs to show he’s doing something. They clearly thought that coaching was part of the problem. They also didn’t hire an “up and coming” 1st time o line coach. They hired a guy who took 5th rd talent and a UDFA who played in the CFL and turned it into the line I’m hoping we’ll be (16th). Their FAs were average but have very good durability, between the two they’ve lost a handful of games due to injury over the last 3 years. Hope that continues. I think this “there’s no more excuses now right?” is a fan narrative, not an HC or FO narrative. If he struggles like he did in 23’ they’ll put him on ice and he’s gone. If he plays like he did in 22’, he may still be gone. Where this gets weird is if we start winning and the offence actually surprises opponents. So did you establish some trade value or does he get another year? Anything short of that I think he’s gone. And if the o line is still a problem by the end of 25’ ownership will flush the toilet on this FO. Every team in the league other than maybe 6 or 7 need to upgrade their QB. 2/3rd of the league are trying to find a way to win with imperfection at QB. mostly agree with all of this! But i will say that for the 2/3rd of the league thats looking for QB's, there are various tiers of play between these QB's. We are in the bottom rung. completely in the bottom rung. I hear fans saying we need a plan for the QB position. I’m not arguing that we don’t. We have as much of a plan as Dallas or Cleveland or Jacksonville or the Jets. Those QBs aren’t long term solutions and they’re not covering up other areas of weakness on their teams. I could expand that list easily but that’s my lazy list without getting into whether Burrows is really all he was 2 years ago.
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Post by giantbob71 on Apr 29, 2024 22:00:00 GMT -5
mostly agree with all of this! But i will say that for the 2/3rd of the league thats looking for QB's, there are various tiers of play between these QB's. We are in the bottom rung. completely in the bottom rung. I hear fans saying we need a plan for the QB position. I’m not arguing that we don’t. We have as much of a plan as Dallas or Cleveland or Jacksonville or the Jets. Those QBs aren’t long term solutions and they’re not covering up other areas of weakness on their teams. I could expand that list easily but that’s my lazy list without getting into whether Burrows is really all he was 2 years ago. When a team has drafted ONE QB (and he's been average at best), since 2019, I wouldn't call that any type of plan.
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Post by shocknaweny on Apr 30, 2024 8:23:39 GMT -5
I expect him to play poorly because he isn’t a starting caliber quarterback. Drew Lock will be starting by October 15th. Should just start Lock all year long If Jones gets hurt we're on the hook for another $24,000,000
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Post by nygiantfanalways on Apr 30, 2024 12:44:23 GMT -5
Gone are the days practice squad WRs holding our offence back! We never drafted an OL this year, so the front office believe we should be average on this front. So do I. Andrew Thomas + average OL all around is a pretty solid unit. Tracey Jr will be a chess piece third down weapon, Singletary will be a great 1st/2nd runner and will be more consistent than Saquon. Yards: 4250 (250 YPG) Passing Tds: 30 (1.7 TDs/game) INTs: 10 We can leave rushing out as with the ACL, and a receiving corps of Nabers, Hyatt/Slayton, Wan Dale + Bellenger/Theo (both absolutely athletic freaks/mismatches) should increase our propensity to throw the ball Separation issues are a thing of the past. 250 YPG and 1.7 TDs/game is low hanging fruit - right? We have held Daniel back for too long, looking forward to watching him thrive I am not a fan of Jones at all. But, Jones just staying healthy would be an accomplishment.
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Post by inconvenientruth on Apr 30, 2024 13:13:09 GMT -5
Gone are the days practice squad WRs holding our offence back! We never drafted an OL this year, so the front office believe we should be average on this front. So do I. Andrew Thomas + average OL all around is a pretty solid unit. Tracey Jr will be a chess piece third down weapon, Singletary will be a great 1st/2nd runner and will be more consistent than Saquon. Yards: 4250 (250 YPG) Passing Tds: 30 (1.7 TDs/game) INTs: 10 We can leave rushing out as with the ACL, and a receiving corps of Nabers, Hyatt/Slayton, Wan Dale + Bellenger/Theo (both absolutely athletic freaks/mismatches) should increase our propensity to throw the ball Separation issues are a thing of the past. 250 YPG and 1.7 TDs/game is low hanging fruit - right? We have held Daniel back for too long, looking forward to watching him thrive I am not a fan of Jones at all. But, Jones just staying healthy would be an accomplishment. The myth of Daniel Jones has always exceeded the reality. Im glad we get to see him for who HE is, this year. We were holding him back this entire time? well, lets see it. No more excuses for the man. Show up, or get out
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Post by DJones19 on Apr 30, 2024 13:20:00 GMT -5
My expectation is for Jones to get criticized when he wills the team to victories.
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Post by inconvenientruth on Apr 30, 2024 13:32:05 GMT -5
My expectation is for Jones to get criticized when he wills the team to victories. then state how many victories JONES will win for the Giants this year. thus far, he hasn't done much winning. One read and run strategy died last year, whats the counter? Go on. How many WINS, yards, TDs can we expect from your man in 2024? set your expectation now and we can revisit. Im tired of you Jones homers talk a big game, have all these expectations for Jones supporting cast, but nothing for him. Lets see it.
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Post by inconvenientruth on Apr 30, 2024 13:55:10 GMT -5
Yeah. Go offline, sounds about right.
Remember, no one has the name DLock24, its yours in 25'
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Post by mendy on Apr 30, 2024 13:57:29 GMT -5
My expectation is for Jones to get criticized when he wills the team to victories. LOL, and when it rains.
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