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Post by Rangers13 on Jul 5, 2024 14:35:45 GMT -5
Feels like Craig Morton, the sequel to me. +1 nothing about him feels like the right fit. |
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Post by SG88 on Jul 5, 2024 14:48:57 GMT -5
Considering the curb stomping that Dak has been giving to the Giants (we have not beaten that QB since his rookie year). I find it wild that there are so many people throwing so much shade at him lol Nothing spectacular about beating the worst team in the league over the past 8-9 years or whatever it is. That’s like praising Jones for beating Washington every year. Overall Giants defensive ranking by total yards given up 2016- 10th 2017- 31st 2018- 23rd 2019- 24th 2020- 12th 2021- 20th 2022- 24th 2023- 26th And as well all know, I’m sure the overall offensive stats are even worse. Hopefully Dak doesn’t even hit FA so we won’t have to worry about that chump. You may be right about him, but it is crazy seeing that we haven't defeated Dallas with him as their starting QB since his rookie year, regardless of how trash we've been. It is just extremely irritating being Dallas and Philadelphia's sparring partners. |
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Post by Jomo on Jul 6, 2024 11:59:19 GMT -5
Feels like Craig Morton, the sequel to me. +1 nothing about him feels like the right fit. 70% of the people here asked "who the hell is Craig Morton?"  |
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Post by DJones19 on Jul 6, 2024 12:05:02 GMT -5
The media wanted us to spend $250 million + draft picks for Russell Wilson even though you can argue he is washed and now want us to "back up the Brinks truck" for Dak.
I like what Joe Schoen called these talking heads/media in Hard Knocks...he just called them noise and block it out.
If there is a Jones replacement, if think Shoen will find someone in the draft or get a better deal. I don't think an aging overpriced vet is what the team needs now. Maybe if we were one piece a way you can argue Dak but 60 million is a lot to pay for a guy with little post season success.
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Post by mendy on Jul 6, 2024 12:26:37 GMT -5
+1 nothing about him feels like the right fit. 70% of the people here asked "who the hell is Craig Morton?"  |
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Post by Jomo on Jul 6, 2024 12:35:08 GMT -5
70% of the people here asked "who the hell is Craig Morton?" .........sitting behind Roger Staubach and Don Meredith for 9 years, Morton was nothing more than a spot starter in Dallas before we traded for him. We sent a #1 and #2 pick to Dallas who drafted future Hall of Famer Randy White with that #1. That is one mighty whiff right there! |
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Post by jb456 on Jul 9, 2024 15:29:27 GMT -5
You're a DP fanboy! Man crushes are pathetic in any circumstance but at least you could have set the bar higher than 2-5 playoff choke artist... So instead of saying “my bad” you just double down on stupidity. Got it. For the Boards viewing pleasure in the offseason: Your homeboy's face How much of your boy's stats in the playoffs were padded due to prevent defenses? |
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Post by GameTime on Jul 10, 2024 8:44:55 GMT -5
**** Dak
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Post by TEM on Jul 10, 2024 8:56:03 GMT -5
How did this thin get 5 pages long?
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Post by Sarcasman on Jul 10, 2024 10:02:43 GMT -5
How did this thin get 5 pages long? It’s off season, we talk nonsense. |
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Post by vinnie on Jul 10, 2024 10:30:31 GMT -5
I didn’t know you couldn’t say L O V E on this site. |
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Post by vinnie on Jul 10, 2024 10:34:13 GMT -5
How did this thin get 5 pages long? It’s off season, we talk nonsense. cows fans have had the exact same thread/topic on their site for awhile, seems most of them think we’d be doing them a favor by taking Dak off their hands and they think right. |
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Post by Sarcasman on Jul 10, 2024 11:44:07 GMT -5
It’s off season, we talk nonsense. cows fans have had the exact same thread/topic on their site for awhile, seems most of them think we’d be doing them a favor by taking Dak off their hands and they think right. I'd be happy to have Prescott be the bridge QB for the Giants, but that means he'd have to accept bridge QB money which is about half of what he likely wants. Some team will overpay him and he should take it whether it's Dallas or someone else. |
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Post by McCherry on Jul 10, 2024 11:45:15 GMT -5
Nothing spectacular about beating the worst team in the league over the past 8-9 years or whatever it is. That’s like praising Jones for beating Washington every year. Overall Giants defensive ranking by total yards given up 2016- 10th 2017- 31st 2018- 23rd 2019- 24th 2020- 12th 2021- 20th 2022- 24th 2023- 26th And as well all know, I’m sure the overall offensive stats are even worse. Hopefully Dak doesn’t even hit FA so we won’t have to worry about that chump. You may be right about him, but it is crazy seeing that we haven't defeated Dallas with him as their starting QB since his rookie year, regardless of how trash we've been. It is just extremely irritating being Dallas and Philadelphia's sparring partners. Which is why Dallas would never let him go. Certainly not to to a divisional rival. Not only would adding Zak potentially make us a contender, it would do the opposite to the Cowboys. |
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Post by Sarcasman on Jul 10, 2024 11:50:43 GMT -5
You may be right about him, but it is crazy seeing that we haven't defeated Dallas with him as their starting QB since his rookie year, regardless of how trash we've been. It is just extremely irritating being Dallas and Philadelphia's sparring partners. Which is why Dallas would never let him go. Certainly not to to a divisional rival. Not only would adding Zak potentially make us a contender, it would do the opposite to the Cowboys. The Giants currently losing streak to Dallas has almost nothing to do with Prescott. To accept otherwise I'd have to also accept that Jones is as good a QB as Lamar Jackson since they're 1-1 against each other. My brain is unable to process that without cramping. |
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Post by vinnie on Jul 10, 2024 11:51:04 GMT -5
You may be right about him, but it is crazy seeing that we haven't defeated Dallas with him as their starting QB since his rookie year, regardless of how trash we've been. It is just extremely irritating being Dallas and Philadelphia's sparring partners. Which is why Dallas would never let him go. Certainly not to to a divisional rival. Not only would adding Zak potentially make us a contender, it would do the opposite to the Cowboys. I hardly doubt he would make us a contender considering the superior rosters he’s had on both sides of the ball and still couldn’t win more than one playoff game but I do agree I doubt Dallas let’s him go. Jerry probably knows he doesn’t have much time left and doesn’t won’t want to take a chance on a rookie QB. I’m not saying Dak will never get it done, just like I’ve never said DJ won’t turn into a franchise QB, I just think either one happening is highly unlikely and not worth the money. |
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Post by GameTime on Jul 10, 2024 12:23:17 GMT -5
I didn’t know you couldn’t say L O V E on this site. dick.. lol |
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Post by bavarobeast on Jul 10, 2024 12:52:51 GMT -5
The fact that this thread still has a pulse proves we’re in the most boring time of the football season.
If this topic was a firecracker it would be a dud.
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Post by McCherry on Jul 10, 2024 13:15:25 GMT -5
Which is why Dallas would never let him go. Certainly not to to a divisional rival. Not only would adding Zak potentially make us a contender, it would do the opposite to the Cowboys. The Giants currently losing streak to Dallas has almost nothing to do with Prescott. To accept otherwise I'd have to also accept that Jones is as good a QB as Lamar Jackson since they're 1-1 against each other. My brain is unable to process that without cramping. Maybe not week 1 last year, which was a complete breakdown on all our fronts. But in the second matchup he threw 4 TD's and over 400 yards. Career stats vs. the Giants he has 27 TD's 8 INT's and over 3600 yards passing... He's had something to do with the Cowboys winning streak over us. |
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Post by Sarcasman on Jul 10, 2024 13:56:15 GMT -5
The Giants currently losing streak to Dallas has almost nothing to do with Prescott. To accept otherwise I'd have to also accept that Jones is as good a QB as Lamar Jackson since they're 1-1 against each other. My brain is unable to process that without cramping. Maybe not week 1 last year, which was a complete breakdown on all our fronts. But in the second matchup he threw 4 TD's and over 400 yards. Career stats vs. the Giants he has 27 TD's 8 INT's and over 3600 yards passing... He's had something to do with the Cowboys winning streak over us. Of course, he's a good QB on a stacked team. I believe he had something to do with it; he wasn't the difference. A team's record against another team is a meaningless measure for rating a QB. |
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Post by McCherry on Jul 10, 2024 15:57:13 GMT -5
Maybe not week 1 last year, which was a complete breakdown on all our fronts. But in the second matchup he threw 4 TD's and over 400 yards. Career stats vs. the Giants he has 27 TD's 8 INT's and over 3600 yards passing... He's had something to do with the Cowboys winning streak over us. Of course, he's a good QB on a stacked team. I believe he had something to do with it; he wasn't the difference. A team's record against another team is a meaningless measure for rating a QB. I'm not saying is. But I'd say his overall record in general is a good rating of how good he is. |
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Post by Sarcasman on Jul 10, 2024 17:13:15 GMT -5
Of course, he's a good QB on a stacked team. I believe he had something to do with it; he wasn't the difference. A team's record against another team is a meaningless measure for rating a QB. I'm not saying is. But I'd say his overall record in general is a good rating of how good he is. Assuming good means good, we agree. I'd say his overall record in general is a good barometer of the team playing with a good QB. There's plenty of good QBs in the league and he is one of them. |
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Post by Roswell on Jul 11, 2024 6:38:02 GMT -5
.........sitting behind Roger Staubach and Don Meredith for 9 years, Morton was nothing more than a spot starter in Dallas before we traded for him. We sent a #1 and #2 pick to Dallas who drafted future Hall of Famer Randy White with that #1. That is one mighty whiff right there! Absolutely a bad move for the same reasons Prescott would be. He was a very talent dependent QB. But the flip side is when the Giants moved on from Morton, he had a pretty good run in Denver and took them to a Super Bowl. He didn’t throw a lot of TDs, but they won with him. Morton’s team won roughly 2 out of every 3 games he played in for Dallas and Denver and 1 out of 4 for the very limited time he was with the Giants. He had a much better career than we Giant fans give him credit for. Look at his numbers on the different teams. Morton is a textbook example of how certain QBs can succeed in good situations and fail in poor ones. He is also an example of how a QB’s W/L numbers are overrated as an arbiter of ability. There are very few QBs on the planet that can truly elevate their team in the absence of a good supporting cast. |
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Post by Jomo on Jul 11, 2024 14:37:23 GMT -5
.........sitting behind Roger Staubach and Don Meredith for 9 years, Morton was nothing more than a spot starter in Dallas before we traded for him. We sent a #1 and #2 pick to Dallas who drafted future Hall of Famer Randy White with that #1. That is one mighty whiff right there! Absolutely a bad move for the same reasons Prescott would be. He was a very talent dependent QB. But the flip side is when the Giants moved on from Morton, he had a pretty good run in Denver and took them to a Super Bowl. He didn’t throw a lot of TDs, but they won with him. Morton’s team won roughly 2 out of every 3 games he played in for Dallas and Denver and 1 out of 4 for the very limited time he was with the Giants. He had a much better career than we Giant fans give him credit for. Look at his numbers on the different teams. Morton is a textbook example of how certain QBs can succeed in good situations and fail in poor ones. He is also an example of how a QB’s W/L numbers are overrated as an arbiter of ability. There are very few QBs on the planet that can truly elevate their team in the absence of a good supporting cast. Your points regarding Morton and Denver are well taken and there is no guarantee that we'd have taken Randy White with that #1. |
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