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Post by TCHOF on Jul 12, 2020 8:04:02 GMT -5
“We’ve got to be careful,” Arians told the Tampa Bay Times. “The players, they’re going to all get sick, that’s for sure. It’s just a matter of how sick they get.” He's right. No way this virus is not going to infect most NFL players, just like it's going to eventually infect most people. The question is and has been how sick they get, and who else they infect and how sick THEY get. People are going to keep dying from this for awhile. The only hope is to make sure people don't die because the healthcare system is overwhelmed. Exactly
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Post by imgrate on Jul 12, 2020 10:33:18 GMT -5
People forget it's real lives here with this disease. The LT on Tampa (forgot his name) just had a brand new baby he said he might not play this year. This season is 50-50 at best. Players and owners have serious work in the next 3 weeks if camp is expected to open on time. opt out clauses, then able to opt out later in season if you didn't sign opt out clause originally, guaranteed money, if this is a franchise year for a player and he sits out then what ?, lot more things to sort besides these 3 off the top of my head. Are teams traveling as far as 1500 to 3000 miles away and playing in other cities and then possibly bringing something home to their families, 9 refs per game coming from all over the USA together and going to a different city each week, They don't ride on team planes they travel with the public. As much as I would miss football much more than most I completely understand this season being a wash one way or another. Would it be selfish to hope for no season because it would really help our team immensely with how behind it is with no offseason and a very young coach with a very young team learning entirely new systems with our staff(especially on defense)not knowing what any of these guys can do without having 2 months in spring to get an idea? Think about it A year of virtual classroom work....private personal workouts with position groups (IMO Jones working privately with the recievers for a year learning the system would probably be better than learning during the regular season against defenses that have continuity for years ....the o line could probably get together and work together...) Also gives a year off for a guy like Shepard..maybe he won't be in jeopardy of the next graze to his head being a career killer,Connelly gets a year and a half to be back at full strength) Just trying to see the positive if the season is canceled Depends on what happens with the contracts. Having a good QB on a rookie deal does wonders for a team, dont want to lose any years of DJ being cheap. Of course this is all based on the assumption that DJ ends up being a good player.
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Post by giantlegacy on Jul 12, 2020 13:23:02 GMT -5
Would it be selfish to hope for no season because it would really help our team immensely with how behind it is with no offseason and a very young coach with a very young team learning entirely new systems with our staff(especially on defense)not knowing what any of these guys can do without having 2 months in spring to get an idea? Think about it A year of virtual classroom work....private personal workouts with position groups (IMO Jones working privately with the recievers for a year learning the system would probably be better than learning during the regular season against defenses that have continuity for years ....the o line could probably get together and work together...) Also gives a year off for a guy like Shepard..maybe he won't be in jeopardy of the next graze to his head being a career killer,Connelly gets a year and a half to be back at full strength) Just trying to see the positive if the season is canceled Depends on what happens with the contracts. Having a good QB on a rookie deal does wonders for a team, dont want to lose any years of DJ being cheap. Of course this is all based on the assumption that DJ ends up being a good player. I really think if we play this is going to be another dead throw away type season anyway...so year 2 is probably going to be moot no matter what. I actually think he would take a bigger huge step if this season is canceled as he would have a year and a half to completely learn the entire playbook and work with his players makers..and have hopefully a normal offseason of practice as well Also gives us a chance to get another legit dynamic download threat opposite Slayton that Garrett needs for this offense Who knows what they do with the contracts if the year is canceled
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Post by Eagles R. Guano on Jul 12, 2020 15:04:41 GMT -5
My wife tested positive and I'm pretty sure I have it. It sucks. OK, I had it pretty bad in April. Acquired at work. My experience: I'm 66, RN, taking care of COVID patients and got it. Was sick as hell. I've got 30 years RN experience in critical care and my wife has 15 +26 years as an RN ... we understand vitality of life. She nursed me and never had symptoms. I was never hospitalized and should have been (refused to go as family weren't allowed ... rather die at home with family). Spent a week with low oxygen, dehydrated, delirious. Sick for a month with positive swabs for 10 weeks. Lost 17 pounds. Still not back, just gonna retire instead. I loved nursing though and was charge RN in a neuro trauma unit. You appear younger so a lot in your favor. If you have a doc that will do the Hydroxychloroquine and the Zithromax take it. It works early. Stay hydrated, if you develop severe shortness of breath seek medical health STAT ! Shortness of breath can progress rapidly. Prayers up for you and your family. Definitely beatable !!!! Stay positive and determined !
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Post by Deleted on Jul 12, 2020 15:21:56 GMT -5
I am mostly curious how they would do the draft. A lottery isn’t fair if say the Chiefs who we know are going deep in the playoffs get the number one pick they would trade it for a ransom
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Post by McCherry on Jul 12, 2020 15:53:50 GMT -5
My wife tested positive and I'm pretty sure I have it. It sucks. OK, I had it pretty bad in April. Acquired at work. My experience: I'm 66, RN, taking care of COVID patients and got it. Was sick as hell. I've got 30 years RN experience in critical care and my wife has 15 +26 years as an RN ... we understand vitality of life. She nursed me and never had symptoms. I was never hospitalized and should have been (refused to go as family weren't allowed ... rather die at home with family). Spent a week with low oxygen, dehydrated, delirious. Sick for a month with positive swabs for 10 weeks. Lost 17 pounds. Still not back, just gonna retire instead. I loved nursing though and was charge RN in a neuro trauma unit. You appear younger so a lot in your favor. If you have a doc that will do the Hydroxychloroquine and the Zithromax take it. It works early. Stay hydrated, if you develop severe shortness of breath seek medical health STAT ! Shortness of breath can progress rapidly. Prayers up for you and your family. Definitely beatable !!!! Stay positive and determined ! Thanks, I may PM you for some advice and more information.
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Post by GameTime on Jul 12, 2020 16:40:55 GMT -5
Depends on what happens with the contracts. Having a good QB on a rookie deal does wonders for a team, dont want to lose any years of DJ being cheap. Of course this is all based on the assumption that DJ ends up being a good player. I really think if we play this is going to be another dead throw away type season anyway...so year 2 is probably going to be moot no matter what. I actually think he would take a bigger huge step if this season is canceled as he would have a year and a half to completely learn the entire playbook and work with his players makers..and have hopefully a normal offseason of practice as well Also gives us a chance to get another legit dynamic download threat opposite Slayton that Garrett needs for this offense Who knows what they do with the contracts if the year is canceled so experience for DJ accounts for nothing? having a rookie QB play 13 games and then a year off is an advantage? You never completely learn anything unless you you physically do it under fire. If these guys cant play then so be it but I see no advantage other than no football injuries to deal with. How will Judge get his HC experience? By having zoom meetings and practice?
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Post by Delicreep on Jul 12, 2020 18:05:47 GMT -5
My wife tested positive and I'm pretty sure I have it. It sucks. Sorry to hear that...stay strong and stay calm...save your strength for what matters.
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Post by Roosevelt on Jul 12, 2020 19:27:32 GMT -5
He's right. No way this virus is not going to infect most NFL players, just like it's going to eventually infect most people. The question is and has been how sick they get, and who else they infect and how sick THEY get. People are going to keep dying from this for awhile. The only hope is to make sure people don't die because the healthcare system is overwhelmed. You’ve got to be kidding me ! Are you serious ? The virus is real but the pandemic is the biggest hoax ever perpetrated in the history of the world. I guess you’ll be first in line to be vaccinated wearing your mask. Good luck living in fear.
Unless you are in the medical field and are willing to provide evidence from studies done thus far, no one is seeking your opinion.
The scary part of the virus is that it could kill anyone and they have no way of knowing whom that may me.
If you want to discuss the virus and how it relates to the NFL that is fine. If you want to discuss governmental conspiracy theories, do that elsewhere.
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Post by Jomo on Jul 12, 2020 22:48:55 GMT -5
Here's the deal, someone needs to be the team rep and it is an important job. It is also a thankless job imo. That is why it should be filled by someone with credibility on the field with this team. He doesn't have any. Maybe he missed the meeting where he was nominated for the spot and wasn't there to say NFW. Whatever the reason, anything he says strikes me as silly until he can set a proper left edge.
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Post by hof56lt on Jul 13, 2020 5:55:02 GMT -5
My wife tested positive and I'm pretty sure I have it. It sucks. OK, I had it pretty bad in April. Acquired at work. My experience: I'm 66, RN, taking care of COVID patients and got it. Was sick as hell. I've got 30 years RN experience in critical care and my wife has 15 +26 years as an RN ... we understand vitality of life. She nursed me and never had symptoms. I was never hospitalized and should have been (refused to go as family weren't allowed ... rather die at home with family). Spent a week with low oxygen, dehydrated, delirious. Sick for a month with positive swabs for 10 weeks. Lost 17 pounds. Still not back, just gonna retire instead. I loved nursing though and was charge RN in a neuro trauma unit. You appear younger so a lot in your favor. If you have a doc that will do the Hydroxychloroquine and the Zithromax take it. It works early. Stay hydrated, if you develop severe shortness of breath seek medical health STAT ! Shortness of breath can progress rapidly. Prayers up for you and your family. Definitely beatable !!!! Stay positive and determined ! Thank you for this valuable information . If not for your medical background you would’ve been attacked by people on this board for recommending Hydroxychoriquine . I have done a little research and found Doctors had high success rates using combination of the following : Drug: Hydroxychloroquine 400mg twice a day (BID) on day 1, followed by 200mg BID for days 2-5 , Drug: Azithromycin 500mg on day 1, followed by 250mg once daily for days 2-5 and drug Zinc Sulfate. 220mg once daily for 5 days. So God bless you for offering a solution that flies in the face of mainstream media that has been promoting lies about the dangers of using these drugs for treatment.
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Post by Providence on Jul 13, 2020 7:08:14 GMT -5
The NFL is in a tough spot when it comes to these talks. Their track record of keeping players safe ain't all that strong. So them saying "Come play football, we'll keep you safe" is probably falling on some very skeptical player ears.
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Post by giantlegacy on Jul 13, 2020 8:02:08 GMT -5
I really think if we play this is going to be another dead throw away type season anyway...so year 2 is probably going to be moot no matter what. I actually think he would take a bigger huge step if this season is canceled as he would have a year and a half to completely learn the entire playbook and work with his players makers..and have hopefully a normal offseason of practice as well Also gives us a chance to get another legit dynamic download threat opposite Slayton that Garrett needs for this offense Who knows what they do with the contracts if the year is canceled so experience for DJ accounts for nothing? having a rookie QB play 13 games and then a year off is an advantage? You never completely learn anything unless you you physically do it under fire. If these guys cant play then so be it but I see no advantage other than no football injuries to deal with. How will Judge get his HC experience? By having zoom meetings and practice? Honestly this year is probably going to be a major disaster record wise again. While I and many fans are rational enough to understand why the team could have another 4-12 season with everything going wrong because of no time to prepare and basically half the seawon being still in tbe "let's see what these guys can and can't do "phase while Judge learns how to be a HC....we have the instant gratification crowd already chomping at the bit to fire everyone and start over again The 1st 4 weeks...even the Bears week 2 have huge advantages over us having the continuity and systems in place that all the players know by heart right now..while this team will still be trying to remember even simple assignments on both sides of the ball,there is a real chance that the team could be 0-4 headed into Dallas .. Even if as I suspect the talent level has been improved all across the board,its not like just ad water and poof a good team,they desperately needed this offseason. Maybe the only players that have a decent shot of being on tbe same page is Jones and the playmakers because at least they have been practicing together all offseason since acquiring the playbook,but what good is it if the O line is getting together for the first time as a unit in 2 weeks with the new coach? I'm frightened to see what the defense is going to look like early with zero knowledge of what any of these players can do and fit with Graham...it actually could be worse the early part of the year than the past 2 ... We already have people posting "wE hAve tO dRaFt OnLy DeFeNsE nExT yEaR" on here.. I said we are a 6-10 team ...witb how this team starts 6 wins would be a highly successful year under these circumstances.. And if its a dead season like I fear,do you want to risk Barkley,Jones,Slayton,ect in what will amount to a 10 game preseason before they start looking like an NFP team execution wise* I want to see tbe season,I need something to.divert But a cancelation probably helps tbe team in the long run if it means fully healthy,everone knowing whats their assignments after probably a longer than usual OTA and practice sessions...and they come out on all cylinders Sept 2021 and make an insane jump foward
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Post by GameTime on Jul 13, 2020 8:18:24 GMT -5
so experience for DJ accounts for nothing? having a rookie QB play 13 games and then a year off is an advantage? You never completely learn anything unless you you physically do it under fire. If these guys cant play then so be it but I see no advantage other than no football injuries to deal with. How will Judge get his HC experience? By having zoom meetings and practice? Honestly this year is probably going to be a major disaster record wise again. While I and many fans are rational enough to understand why the team could have another 4-12 season with everything going wrong because of no time to prepare and basically half the seawon being still in tbe "let's see what these guys can and can't do "phase while Judge learns how to be a HC....we have the instant gratification crowd already chomping at the bit to fire everyone and start over again The 1st 4 weeks...even the Bears week 2 have huge advantages over us having the continuity and systems in place that all the players know by heart right now..while this team will still be trying to remember even simple assignments on both sides of the ball,there is a real chance that the team could be 0-4 headed into Dallas .. Even if as I suspect the talent level has been improved all across the board,its not like just ad water and poof a good team,they desperately needed this offseason. Maybe the only players that have a decent shot of being on tbe same page is Jones and the playmakers because at least they have been practicing together all offseason since acquiring the playbook,but what good is it if the O line is getting together for the first time as a unit in 2 weeks with the new coach? I'm frightened to see what the defense is going to look like early with zero knowledge of what any of these players can do and fit with Graham...it actually could be worse the early part of the year than the past 2 ... We already have people posting "wE hAve tO dRaFt OnLy DeFeNsE nExT yEaR" on here.. I said we are a 6-10 team ...witb how this team starts 6 wins would be a highly successful year under these circumstances.. And if its a dead season like I fear,do you want to risk Barkley,Jones,Slayton,ect in what will amount to a 10 game preseason before they start looking like an NFP team execution wise* I want to see tbe season,I need something to.divert But a cancelation probably helps tbe team in the long run if it means fully healthy,everone knowing whats their assignments after probably a longer than usual OTA and practice sessions...and they come out on all cylinders Sept 2021 and make an insane jump foward your are way over thinking and worrying ...If this season is cancelled there is no reason the Giants will "better team" with a year off of real games. You make it seem like next year's draft will be some magical transformation for the roster. There is no substitute for real game experience for Jones, Judge, all the other rookies and young players/coaches. Also for all the coaches who are doing a different job for the first time in their careers. Cancellation will not help any team progress. It will only prevent injury.
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Post by TCHOF on Jul 13, 2020 8:23:19 GMT -5
Honestly this year is probably going to be a major disaster record wise again. While I and many fans are rational enough to understand why the team could have another 4-12 season with everything going wrong because of no time to prepare and basically half the seawon being still in tbe "let's see what these guys can and can't do "phase while Judge learns how to be a HC....we have the instant gratification crowd already chomping at the bit to fire everyone and start over again The 1st 4 weeks...even the Bears week 2 have huge advantages over us having the continuity and systems in place that all the players know by heart right now..while this team will still be trying to remember even simple assignments on both sides of the ball,there is a real chance that the team could be 0-4 headed into Dallas .. Even if as I suspect the talent level has been improved all across the board,its not like just ad water and poof a good team,they desperately needed this offseason. Maybe the only players that have a decent shot of being on tbe same page is Jones and the playmakers because at least they have been practicing together all offseason since acquiring the playbook,but what good is it if the O line is getting together for the first time as a unit in 2 weeks with the new coach? I'm frightened to see what the defense is going to look like early with zero knowledge of what any of these players can do and fit with Graham...it actually could be worse the early part of the year than the past 2 ... We already have people posting "wE hAve tO dRaFt OnLy DeFeNsE nExT yEaR" on here.. I said we are a 6-10 team ...witb how this team starts 6 wins would be a highly successful year under these circumstances.. And if its a dead season like I fear,do you want to risk Barkley,Jones,Slayton,ect in what will amount to a 10 game preseason before they start looking like an NFP team execution wise* I want to see tbe season,I need something to.divert But a cancelation probably helps tbe team in the long run if it means fully healthy,everone knowing whats their assignments after probably a longer than usual OTA and practice sessions...and they come out on all cylinders Sept 2021 and make an insane jump foward your are way over thinking and worrying ...If this season is cancelled there is no reason the Giants will "better team" with a year off of real games. You make it seem like next year's draft will be some magical transformation for the roster. There is no substitute for real game experience for Jones, Judge, all the other rookies and young players/coaches. Also for all the coaches who are doing a different job for the first time in their careers. Cancellation will not help any team progress. It will only prevent injury. Well, they will presumably have a more talented roster in 2021 than we have now, since a whole new draft class will be added
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Post by giantlegacy on Jul 13, 2020 8:33:44 GMT -5
Honestly this year is probably going to be a major disaster record wise again. While I and many fans are rational enough to understand why the team could have another 4-12 season with everything going wrong because of no time to prepare and basically half the seawon being still in tbe "let's see what these guys can and can't do "phase while Judge learns how to be a HC....we have the instant gratification crowd already chomping at the bit to fire everyone and start over again The 1st 4 weeks...even the Bears week 2 have huge advantages over us having the continuity and systems in place that all the players know by heart right now..while this team will still be trying to remember even simple assignments on both sides of the ball,there is a real chance that the team could be 0-4 headed into Dallas .. Even if as I suspect the talent level has been improved all across the board,its not like just ad water and poof a good team,they desperately needed this offseason. Maybe the only players that have a decent shot of being on tbe same page is Jones and the playmakers because at least they have been practicing together all offseason since acquiring the playbook,but what good is it if the O line is getting together for the first time as a unit in 2 weeks with the new coach? I'm frightened to see what the defense is going to look like early with zero knowledge of what any of these players can do and fit with Graham...it actually could be worse the early part of the year than the past 2 ... We already have people posting "wE hAve tO dRaFt OnLy DeFeNsE nExT yEaR" on here.. I said we are a 6-10 team ...witb how this team starts 6 wins would be a highly successful year under these circumstances.. And if its a dead season like I fear,do you want to risk Barkley,Jones,Slayton,ect in what will amount to a 10 game preseason before they start looking like an NFP team execution wise* I want to see tbe season,I need something to.divert But a cancelation probably helps tbe team in the long run if it means fully healthy,everone knowing whats their assignments after probably a longer than usual OTA and practice sessions...and they come out on all cylinders Sept 2021 and make an insane jump foward your are way over thinking and worrying ...If this season is cancelled there is no reason the Giants will "better team" with a year off of real games. You make it seem like next year's draft will be some magical transformation for the roster. There is no substitute for real game experience for Jones, Judge, all the other rookies and young players/coaches. Also for all the coaches who are doing a different job for the first time in their careers. Cancellation will not help any team progress. It will only prevent injury. So try selling all this to the instant gratification crowd that wants a winning season despite all these issues or everone fired immediately.
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Post by giantlegacy on Jul 13, 2020 8:36:59 GMT -5
your are way over thinking and worrying ...If this season is cancelled there is no reason the Giants will "better team" with a year off of real games. You make it seem like next year's draft will be some magical transformation for the roster. There is no substitute for real game experience for Jones, Judge, all the other rookies and young players/coaches. Also for all the coaches who are doing a different job for the first time in their careers. Cancellation will not help any team progress. It will only prevent injury. Well, they will presumably have a more talented roster in 2021 than we have now, since a whole new draft class will be added Hopefully Jamar Chase opposite Slayton with an entire young good line under 26 years old with Barkley and Jones(who i think is legit) You can win a lot of games on this alone
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Post by jimmieray on Jul 13, 2020 8:42:06 GMT -5
your are way over thinking and worrying ...If this season is cancelled there is no reason the Giants will "better team" with a year off of real games. You make it seem like next year's draft will be some magical transformation for the roster. There is no substitute for real game experience for Jones, Judge, all the other rookies and young players/coaches. Also for all the coaches who are doing a different job for the first time in their careers. Cancellation will not help any team progress. It will only prevent injury. Well, they will presumably have a more talented roster in 2021 than we have now, since a whole new draft class will be added Has there been any clarification on whether a cancelled season would be considered as something not to be the last year on players' contracts, who are coming up for that? Engram, for example.
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Post by McCherry on Jul 13, 2020 10:03:24 GMT -5
I really think if we play this is going to be another dead throw away type season anyway...so year 2 is probably going to be moot no matter what. I actually think he would take a bigger huge step if this season is canceled as he would have a year and a half to completely learn the entire playbook and work with his players makers..and have hopefully a normal offseason of practice as well Also gives us a chance to get another legit dynamic download threat opposite Slayton that Garrett needs for this offense Who knows what they do with the contracts if the year is canceled so experience for DJ accounts for nothing? having a rookie QB play 13 games and then a year off is an advantage? You never completely learn anything unless you you physically do it under fire. If these guys cant play then so be it but I see no advantage other than no football injuries to deal with. How will Judge get his HC experience? By having zoom meetings and practice? I think for veterans a year off might work to an advantage, but for younger QB's like Jones it could be devastating.
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Post by Sarcasman on Jul 13, 2020 10:21:59 GMT -5
OK, I had it pretty bad in April. Acquired at work. My experience: I'm 66, RN, taking care of COVID patients and got it. Was sick as hell. I've got 30 years RN experience in critical care and my wife has 15 +26 years as an RN ... we understand vitality of life. She nursed me and never had symptoms. I was never hospitalized and should have been (refused to go as family weren't allowed ... rather die at home with family). Spent a week with low oxygen, dehydrated, delirious. Sick for a month with positive swabs for 10 weeks. Lost 17 pounds. Still not back, just gonna retire instead. I loved nursing though and was charge RN in a neuro trauma unit. You appear younger so a lot in your favor. If you have a doc that will do the Hydroxychloroquine and the Zithromax take it. It works early. Stay hydrated, if you develop severe shortness of breath seek medical health STAT ! Shortness of breath can progress rapidly. Prayers up for you and your family. Definitely beatable !!!! Stay positive and determined ! Thank you for this valuable information . If not for your medical background you would’ve been attacked by people on this board for recommending Hydroxychoriquine . I have done a little research and found Doctors had high success rates using combination of the following : Drug: Hydroxychloroquine 400mg twice a day (BID) on day 1, followed by 200mg BID for days 2-5 , Drug: Azithromycin 500mg on day 1, followed by 250mg once daily for days 2-5 and drug Zinc Sulfate. 220mg once daily for 5 days. So God bless you for offering a solution that flies in the face of mainstream media that has been promoting lies about the dangers of using these drugs for treatment. While I can’t imagine why anyone would listen to any media outlet for any constructive reason, particularly about medical treatments....I suppose there are a handful of dummies that do. More importantly, thank you to Guano for sharing his first hand experience with tested treatments as opposed to attempting to self diagnose and then guessing about what might work.
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Post by Sarcasman on Jul 13, 2020 10:23:42 GMT -5
your are way over thinking and worrying ...If this season is cancelled there is no reason the Giants will "better team" with a year off of real games. You make it seem like next year's draft will be some magical transformation for the roster. There is no substitute for real game experience for Jones, Judge, all the other rookies and young players/coaches. Also for all the coaches who are doing a different job for the first time in their careers. Cancellation will not help any team progress. It will only prevent injury. So try selling all this to the instant gratification crowd that wants a winning season despite all these issues or everone fired immediately. Well those guys all have their fantasy football teams to validate their GM credentials. They’ll be fine.
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Post by jimmieray on Jul 13, 2020 10:58:45 GMT -5
so experience for DJ accounts for nothing? having a rookie QB play 13 games and then a year off is an advantage? You never completely learn anything unless you you physically do it under fire. If these guys cant play then so be it but I see no advantage other than no football injuries to deal with. How will Judge get his HC experience? By having zoom meetings and practice? I think for veterans a year off might work to an advantage, but for younger QB's like Jones it could be devastating. Jones could spend that year just walking around with a football in his hands, challenge everyone he bumps into to try and knock it out - and come back next year all refined. An older vet QB may find he's lost too much in a year, to be able to come back.
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Post by GameTime on Jul 13, 2020 11:09:10 GMT -5
your are way over thinking and worrying ...If this season is cancelled there is no reason the Giants will "better team" with a year off of real games. You make it seem like next year's draft will be some magical transformation for the roster. There is no substitute for real game experience for Jones, Judge, all the other rookies and young players/coaches. Also for all the coaches who are doing a different job for the first time in their careers. Cancellation will not help any team progress. It will only prevent injury. So try selling all this to the instant gratification crowd that wants a winning season despite all these issues or everone fired immediately. dont care about any crowd. A season off benefits no one. Just my 2cents
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Post by GameTime on Jul 13, 2020 11:10:10 GMT -5
your are way over thinking and worrying ...If this season is cancelled there is no reason the Giants will "better team" with a year off of real games. You make it seem like next year's draft will be some magical transformation for the roster. There is no substitute for real game experience for Jones, Judge, all the other rookies and young players/coaches. Also for all the coaches who are doing a different job for the first time in their careers. Cancellation will not help any team progress. It will only prevent injury. Well, they will presumably have a more talented roster in 2021 than we have now, since a whole new draft class will be added still not some magical elixir. On the field real game experience is better than a year off.
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Post by GameTime on Jul 13, 2020 11:10:53 GMT -5
so experience for DJ accounts for nothing? having a rookie QB play 13 games and then a year off is an advantage? You never completely learn anything unless you you physically do it under fire. If these guys cant play then so be it but I see no advantage other than no football injuries to deal with. How will Judge get his HC experience? By having zoom meetings and practice? I think for veterans a year off might work to an advantage, but for younger QB's like Jones it could be devastating. thats why I mentioned the new players and coaches. Not the seasoned vets
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Post by Morehead State on Jul 13, 2020 11:17:24 GMT -5
your are way over thinking and worrying ...If this season is cancelled there is no reason the Giants will "better team" with a year off of real games. You make it seem like next year's draft will be some magical transformation for the roster. There is no substitute for real game experience for Jones, Judge, all the other rookies and young players/coaches. Also for all the coaches who are doing a different job for the first time in their careers. Cancellation will not help any team progress. It will only prevent injury. Well, they will presumably have a more talented roster in 2021 than we have now, since a whole new draft class will be added Isn't that true of every team?
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Post by McCherry on Jul 13, 2020 12:04:07 GMT -5
I think for veterans a year off might work to an advantage, but for younger QB's like Jones it could be devastating. Jones could spend that year just walking around with a football in his hands, challenge everyone he bumps into to try and knock it out - and come back next year all refined. An older vet QB may find he's lost too much in a year, to be able to come back.I don't know about that. Vet QB's often get injured, miss the entire season and come back strong.
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Post by TCHOF on Jul 13, 2020 12:10:09 GMT -5
Well, they will presumably have a more talented roster in 2021 than we have now, since a whole new draft class will be added Has there been any clarification on whether a cancelled season would be considered as something not to be the last year on players' contracts, who are coming up for that? Engram, for example. Not that I know of ....
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Post by TCHOF on Jul 13, 2020 12:10:38 GMT -5
Well, they will presumably have a more talented roster in 2021 than we have now, since a whole new draft class will be added Isn't that true of every team? Yes
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Post by TCHOF on Jul 13, 2020 12:12:19 GMT -5
Well, they will presumably have a more talented roster in 2021 than we have now, since a whole new draft class will be added still not some magical elixir. On the field real game experience is better than a year off. Agreed ... and it presumes you have a good draft and don’t pull “a Baker” in the first....
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