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Post by myronguyton29 on Nov 24, 2021 12:24:08 GMT -5
If you don't want to listen to the whole video it starts @ 5 min mark in which he talks about Gettleman's first move, the OBJ thing, ect. As much as some of us love OBJ or hate him, that move was the start of the question marks for Gettleman and he has definitely ran his course. About how back with the George Youngs, the Accorsi's, the Welington Mara's, how the Giants weren't concerned about alot of the back page stuff and PR moves/stunts ect we wanted to win football games. Oh man you musht hear it on how he rag dolled our upper management and ownership. A must listen to...
Shannon Sharpe on undisputed talked about the Mara's and Tisch's and said he respects them but he wouldn't be surprised if they stay the course up top, if we don't win another game in the next 11-14 years!!!
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Post by McCherry on Nov 24, 2021 12:29:16 GMT -5
Two of the last people I'd ever listen to.
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Post by giantlegacy on Nov 24, 2021 12:30:42 GMT -5
If you don't want to listen to the whole video it starts @ 5 min mark in which he talks about Gettleman's first move, the OBJ thing, ect. As much as some of us love OBJ or hate him, that move was the start of the question marks for Gettleman and he has definitely ran his course. About how back with the George Youngs, the Accorsi's, the Welington Mara's, how the Giants weren't concerned about alot of the back page stuff and PR moves/stunts ect we wanted to win football games. Oh man you musht hear it on how he rag dolled our upper management and ownership. A must listen to... Shannon Sharpe on undisputed talked about the Mara's and Tisch's and said he respects them but he wouldn't be surprised if they stay the course up top, if we don't win another game in the next 11-14 years!!! Yaaas Finally some people are taking Lucille at where it needs to be used nationally It's up to us fans now to turn up the heat Bears fans were chanting fire Nagy at Black Hawk and Bulls games in addition to their home game Chanting fire Judge doesn't change what the real problem is We have 2 basketball teams and 3 NHL teams that have home games... The Mara version of Let's go Brandon at every home game in the NY tri state area for the rest of 2021..
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Post by myronguyton29 on Nov 24, 2021 12:40:41 GMT -5
If you don't want to listen to the whole video it starts @ 5 min mark in which he talks about Gettleman's first move, the OBJ thing, ect. As much as some of us love OBJ or hate him, that move was the start of the question marks for Gettleman and he has definitely ran his course. About how back with the George Youngs, the Accorsi's, the Welington Mara's, how the Giants weren't concerned about alot of the back page stuff and PR moves/stunts ect we wanted to win football games. Oh man you musht hear it on how he rag dolled our upper management and ownership. A must listen to... Shannon Sharpe on undisputed talked about the Mara's and Tisch's and said he respects them but he wouldn't be surprised if they stay the course up top, if we don't win another game in the next 11-14 years!!! Yaaas Finally some people are taking Lucille at where it needs to be used nationally It's up to us fans now to turn up the heat Bears fans were chanting fire Nagy at Black Hawk and Bulls games in addition to their home game Chanting fire Judge doesn't change what the real problem is We have 2 basketball teams and 3 NHL teams that have home games... The Mara version of Let's go Brandon at every home game in the NY tri state area for the rest of 2021.. Yessssssssssssss brother it is absolutely BEAUTIFUL and these are just the very things I was searching for and hoping I could find today are these very subjects and now their attention has got to be gotten it has to mannnnnnnnnnnn!!!!!!! the heat needs to be turned up and stay the heck on under their damn seats!!!
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Post by myronguyton29 on Nov 24, 2021 12:42:02 GMT -5
Actually saw where they were actually talking about this since Monday too about the state of the NYG and how if you keep hiring and firing and the same shit keeps happening then what the heck are/should we expect. Mara and Tish yalls asses are on NOTICE!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by myronguyton29 on Nov 24, 2021 12:43:26 GMT -5
Two of the last people I'd ever listen to. OH Well but at least someone has the balls to bring up and talk about/address the problem. We need the damn thing to be rectified and it wasn't just them by they way those were just 2 of the ones I've watched so far heheheee
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Post by Dezzr on Nov 24, 2021 13:16:26 GMT -5
Two of the last people I'd ever listen to. rather stab my ears with a screw driver
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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2021 14:03:28 GMT -5
I don’t like Smith but he is the only one who knows what he’s talking about. 100% with him.
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Post by jaymas on Nov 24, 2021 14:19:04 GMT -5
There is, quite literally, always someone who says it better than Stephen A. Smith and Shannon Sharpe.
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Post by jaymas on Nov 24, 2021 14:21:47 GMT -5
DG absolutely sucks, bottom tier GM in every sense of the word, but using the OBJ trade as an example...there are so many other things to highlight his suckiness.
Hell, that trade is basically a wash.
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Post by Roswell on Nov 24, 2021 14:31:48 GMT -5
Trading Beckham was a great move.
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Post by lt56 on Nov 24, 2021 14:34:27 GMT -5
DG should've been the first FIRED for sure!
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Post by cdngfan on Nov 24, 2021 14:35:27 GMT -5
He lost me when he threw water on the OBJ trade.
That looked pretty insane at the time. Sure doesn’t now.
Whole lotta nothing out of Stephen A. Just regurgitating stats we can all look up ourselves.
The only thing he said I like was digging at “the Giants Way”
I don’t even know what that means anymore. Other than losing.
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Post by Rangers13 on Nov 24, 2021 14:36:30 GMT -5
If you don't want to listen to the whole video it starts @ 5 min mark in which he talks about Gettleman's first move, the OBJ thing, ect. As much as some of us love OBJ or hate him, that move was the start of the question marks for Gettleman and he has definitely ran his course. About how back with the George Youngs, the Accorsi's, the Welington Mara's, how the Giants weren't concerned about alot of the back page stuff and PR moves/stunts ect we wanted to win football games. Oh man you musht hear it on how he rag dolled our upper management and ownership. A must listen to... Shannon Sharpe on undisputed talked about the Mara's and Tisch's and said he respects them but he wouldn't be surprised if they stay the course up top, if we don't win another game in the next 11-14 years!!! didn’t Smith want Dwayne Haskins? Killed the Giants for not taking him? OBJ? He’s done nothing since leaving NY and had done nothing for a while in NY. He went on ESPN and threw his QB under the bus Imo, he should have mentioned the drafts, the OL, losing the pass rush, etc.
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Post by myronguyton29 on Nov 24, 2021 14:57:30 GMT -5
If you don't want to listen to the whole video it starts @ 5 min mark in which he talks about Gettleman's first move, the OBJ thing, ect. As much as some of us love OBJ or hate him, that move was the start of the question marks for Gettleman and he has definitely ran his course. About how back with the George Youngs, the Accorsi's, the Welington Mara's, how the Giants weren't concerned about alot of the back page stuff and PR moves/stunts ect we wanted to win football games. Oh man you musht hear it on how he rag dolled our upper management and ownership. A must listen to... Shannon Sharpe on undisputed talked about the Mara's and Tisch's and said he respects them but he wouldn't be surprised if they stay the course up top, if we don't win another game in the next 11-14 years!!! didn’t Smith want Dwayne Haskins? Killed the Giants for not taking him? OBJ? He’s done nothing since leaving NY and had done nothing for a while in NY. He went on ESPN and threw his QB under the bus Imo, he should have mentioned the drafts, the OL, losing the pass rush, etc. he did talk about Gettleman's failed drafts IIRC, either he or one of the many jokas I listened to this morning; actually more than one pointed out Gettleman's moves that he's made, hit on some, made a lot of blunders, ect. The thing is the point he made about OBJ is at the time, he got ran out of town because of so called not being the Giants type per say overall with his antics and such. Was he ever not performing or doing his job? Missed practice? Caused trouble? I'm not saying we should of kept him but to be honest I wasn't a fan of the trade and frankly didn't care overall the way I feel about sports overall the past 5 years ish. But Gettleman making that move, AFTER SIGNING him LMMFAO then lying after he said we didn't sign him to trade him, that rubbed a lot of people wrong. Did Odell do some shit to cause his demise I won't dispute that but think about it like this. Has the so called Giant way and bringing in so called Giants type of players/personel worked out great for us? The Giant way isn't working so they might want to try something else!!! and by they way that wasn't the only point he was trying to make in reference to Getty but it was one of Getty's first questionable moves and defintiely AT THAT TIME!!
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Post by myronguyton29 on Nov 24, 2021 15:01:42 GMT -5
If you don't want to listen to the whole video it starts @ 5 min mark in which he talks about Gettleman's first move, the OBJ thing, ect. As much as some of us love OBJ or hate him, that move was the start of the question marks for Gettleman and he has definitely ran his course. About how back with the George Youngs, the Accorsi's, the Welington Mara's, how the Giants weren't concerned about alot of the back page stuff and PR moves/stunts ect we wanted to win football games. Oh man you musht hear it on how he rag dolled our upper management and ownership. A must listen to... Shannon Sharpe on undisputed talked about the Mara's and Tisch's and said he respects them but he wouldn't be surprised if they stay the course up top, if we don't win another game in the next 11-14 years!!! didn’t Smith want Dwayne Haskins? Killed the Giants for not taking him? OBJ? He’s done nothing since leaving NY and had done nothing for a while in NY. He went on ESPN and threw his QB under the bus Imo, he should have mentioned the drafts, the OL, losing the pass rush, etc. aND hell how much better has Jones looked overall than Haskins. I don't feel like putting up the numbers but and Jones has played more but if someone does I'd like to compare their numbers. sure Haskins has done some dumb shit sure, but talent to talent and who we shoud've drafted, both of them SUCK!!!
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Post by SG88 on Nov 24, 2021 15:08:27 GMT -5
I couldn't care less about Smith, but this franchise is a public laughing stock. I listened to Mad Dog Sports radio on my way into work and on my way home yesterday. Both of shows agreed that this franchise is a dumpster fire that is living in the past. Cap hell, a shitty overall roster, a horrible front office, suspect coaching, and a back up QB masquerading as a starter? Yeah, we suck on every level imaginable. The people buying into this garbage only have hopes and dreams to cling onto.
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Nov 24, 2021 15:10:47 GMT -5
I can not listen to that man lol half the time he doesn't even know what or who he is talking about.
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Nov 24, 2021 15:13:52 GMT -5
I couldn't care less about Smith, but this franchise is a public laughing stock. I listened to Mad Dog Sports radio on my way into work and on my way home yesterday. Both of shows agreed that this franchise is a dumpster fire that is living in the past. Cap hell, a shitty overall roster, a horrible front office, suspect coaching, and a back up QB masquerading as a starter? Yeah, we suck on every level imaginable. The people buying into this garbage only have hopes and dreams to cling onto. Change needs to start at the top what they have been doing doesn't work hasn't worked since Earnie Accorsi was here, those day are long gone and those players are the critiques of todays teams
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Post by SG88 on Nov 24, 2021 15:14:23 GMT -5
didn’t Smith want Dwayne Haskins? Killed the Giants for not taking him? OBJ? He’s done nothing since leaving NY and had done nothing for a while in NY. He went on ESPN and threw his QB under the bus Imo, he should have mentioned the drafts, the OL, losing the pass rush, etc. aND hell how much better has Jones looked overall than Haskins. I don't feel like putting up the numbers but and Jones has played more but if someone does I'd like to compare their numbers. sure Haskins has done some dumb shit sure, but talent to talent and who we shoud've drafted, both of them SUCK!!! Theyre both not starting caliber quarterbacks. If a person's bragging about a QB being better than Dwayne ****ing Haskins, that isn't bragging about much at all. Smith was spitting a lot of truth in that video even though I think he is a loudmouth hack. Discrediting him isn't going to change the fact that this team is a ****ing mess from ownership down to the water boys. Met Life stadium looks like a toilet bowl and has two of the biggest turds (Jets and Giants) floating around in it. Oh, the irony.
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Post by giantlegacy on Nov 24, 2021 15:15:57 GMT -5
I could give a **** who said it but someone had to start going off on our sacred cows nationally..... All "revolutions" (OK that is a bit extreme but you get my point)have to start somewhere ...
Let's see if this spreads from hot take shows to more mainstream sports talk shows
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Post by DJones19 on Nov 24, 2021 15:19:05 GMT -5
Stephen's main argument against the Giants was defending Odell Beckham. ...haha, he has to be kidding me saying that after the Brown's fiasco.
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Post by giantlegacy on Nov 24, 2021 15:24:56 GMT -5
Stephen's main argument against the Giants was defending Odell Beckham. ...haha, he has to be kidding me saying that after the Brown's fiasco. Well ...
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Post by Parademon1 on Nov 24, 2021 15:27:06 GMT -5
To put into perspective how bad we've been as a team, the last time the Giants had a 500 record was 2016, we have not even been 2-2, 4-4, 5-5, etc since 2016! Our starting records in Sept/Oct from 17'-21' have been:
1-6 1-7 2-6 1-6 2-5
7-30 ! We've been outta playoff contention by Halloween for 5 straight yrs!
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Post by SG88 on Nov 24, 2021 15:29:31 GMT -5
I could give a **** who said it but someone had to start going off on our sacred cows nationally..... All "revolutions" (OK that is a bit extreme but you get my point)have to start somewhere ... Let's see if this spreads from hot take shows to more mainstream sports talk shows Trust me man, the Giants are getting clowned on nationally. Even some of the biggest homers I know are just tired of the bullshit with this franchise. I'm hoping that more criticism starts getting thrown at Trust Fund John and Fredo.
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Nov 24, 2021 15:42:00 GMT -5
aND hell how much better has Jones looked overall than Haskins. I don't feel like putting up the numbers but and Jones has played more but if someone does I'd like to compare their numbers. sure Haskins has done some dumb shit sure, but talent to talent and who we shoud've drafted, both of them SUCK!!! Theyre both not starting caliber quarterbacks. If a person's bragging about a QB being better than Dwayne ****ing Haskins, that isn't bragging about much at all. Smith was spitting a lot of truth in that video even though I think he is a loudmouth hack. Discrediting him isn't going to change the fact that this team is a ****ing mess from ownership down to the water boys. Met Life stadium looks like a toilet bowl and has two of the biggest turds (Jets and Giants) floating around in it. Oh, the irony. As rookies thats all we have to go by and Jones was just a better QB period at that time, Agree Smith doesn't need to tell intelligent fans what they already know, now some of us fans probably can teach him quite a bit about football in general.
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Post by giantlegacy on Nov 24, 2021 15:47:20 GMT -5
I could give a **** who said it but someone had to start going off on our sacred cows nationally..... All "revolutions" (OK that is a bit extreme but you get my point)have to start somewhere ... Let's see if this spreads from hot take shows to more mainstream sports talk shows Trust me man, the Giants are getting clowned on nationally. Even some of the biggest homers I know are just tired of the bullshit with this franchise. I'm hoping that more criticism starts getting thrown at Trust Fund John and Fredo. Trust fund and Fredo need all the heat at the moment because everything else is ancillary until that is fixed
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Post by mendy on Nov 24, 2021 15:51:51 GMT -5
Trading Beckham was a great move. Giants fans as far as I know have always been considered some of the most knowledgably football fans around and "classiest" and that came from John Maddon. SAS is talking about stuff he knows nothing about . When he has to add in with the ODB trade he has lost his credibility .
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Post by SG88 on Nov 24, 2021 15:54:41 GMT -5
Theyre both not starting caliber quarterbacks. If a person's bragging about a QB being better than Dwayne ****ing Haskins, that isn't bragging about much at all. Smith was spitting a lot of truth in that video even though I think he is a loudmouth hack. Discrediting him isn't going to change the fact that this team is a ****ing mess from ownership down to the water boys. Met Life stadium looks like a toilet bowl and has two of the biggest turds (Jets and Giants) floating around in it. Oh, the irony. As rookies thats all we have to go by and Jones was just a better QB period at that time, Agree Smith doesn't need to tell intelligent fans what they already know, now some of us fans probably can teach him quite a bit about football in general. My 11 year old daughter who has zero interest in football knows just as much as Smith. Some Giants fans just need to wake up. This franchise has lost its luster and are bottom feeders like the Jets and Lions, who both have better records than the Giants in the last several years. What's sad about it is that it includes the Lions 0-8-1 start this year. I'm beyond my breaking point as a lifelong fan of the team
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Post by mendy on Nov 24, 2021 15:57:17 GMT -5
I could give a **** who said it but someone had to start going off on our sacred cows nationally..... All "revolutions" (OK that is a bit extreme but you get my point)have to start somewhere ... Let's see if this spreads from hot take shows to more mainstream sports talk shows That won't work and it's never done. It wasn't done in Buffalo, or Cleveland or with the Jets and since the Giants have been to 5 Super Bowls in the last 35 years winning four they (the Owners) carry a little clout) .Look fans aren't happy but if fans honestly think they like losing then maybe the fans have the problem.
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