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Post by piddy283 on Apr 26, 2024 9:17:36 GMT -5
Forgot all about Cousins. That's actually a good spot to land for any QB....I wonder how Falcons fans are taking it. Did you the Arthur Bank video? I did not.
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Post by piddy283 on Apr 26, 2024 9:19:49 GMT -5
You got a DT in mind? I know he's on every body's shit list, but I want Sweat. Give me him and Dex next to each other, and let everyone else run wild. It'd be fun to watch. I think Sweat is a backup to Lawrence though. In a 4-3, heck yeah in Round 2. In this 3-4 base i think a Jenkins has a better motor. Not sure Lawrence has the motor to move down the line and chase all game with Sweat inside.. I do like Sweat a lot though. I remember you pointing this out. I just like the idea of having 700lbs in the middle of the DL....whatever formation it is.
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Post by Roosevelt on Apr 26, 2024 9:27:05 GMT -5
Yet you nailed this pick. Did you pick this pick?? That's impressive if so. He did, but I've yet to hear his thinking behind it.
If I was Cousins and an older Falcon player, I'd be pissed about this pick.
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Post by piddy283 on Apr 26, 2024 9:29:00 GMT -5
Did you pick this pick?? That's impressive if so. He did, but I've yet to hear his thinking behind it.
If I was Cousins and an older Falcon player, I'd be pissed about this pick.
Damn.....never would've guessed that. Hats off.
Glad it was the Vikings and not us.
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Post by solomonphoenix56 on Apr 26, 2024 9:30:43 GMT -5
Liking the Nabers pick. Love it actually, but disappointed that we still have a bum at QB so it doesn't matter. Hoping for the best.
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Post by piddy283 on Apr 26, 2024 9:32:30 GMT -5
Liking the Nabers pick. Love it actually, but disappointed that we still have a bum at QB so it doesn't matter. Hoping for the best. Better OL....better WRs.....no injures? If healthy I think DJ should be fine.
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Post by McCherry on Apr 26, 2024 9:41:49 GMT -5
They tried. They clearly wanted Maye, but we knew that moving up was against the odds. Nabers makes us better, this isn't a disappointing move. You're not wrong though, and a QB isn't off the table.
Got one in mind??
Prattler?
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Post by jaymas on Apr 26, 2024 9:47:21 GMT -5
Liking the Nabers pick. Love it actually, but disappointed that we still have a bum at QB so it doesn't matter. Hoping for the best. Better OL....better WRs.....no injures? If healthy I think DJ should be fine. I think we'll be far more competitive on offense if it comes together and the group stays healthy. But the ceiling for the offense with Jones will be disappointing relative to how dynamic the pass catching group could be with Nabers in the mix. Nabers, Slayton, Hyatt, outside of the Dolphins what team has a core receiving group with that much speed?
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Apr 26, 2024 9:54:28 GMT -5
Chris Simms had him as his #1 receiver over Harrison.
There were a lot of scouts and personnel people who did this kid is different special player.
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Post by piddy283 on Apr 26, 2024 9:55:28 GMT -5
Better OL....better WRs.....no injures? If healthy I think DJ should be fine. I think we'll be far more competitive on offense if it comes together and the group stays healthy. But the ceiling for the offense with Jones will be disappointing relative to how dynamic the pass catching group could be with Nabers in the mix. Nabers, Slayton, Hyatt, outside of the Dolphins what team has a core receiving group with that much speed?
Nabers is going to open things up for everyone. Watch Hyatt break out and Slayton have his best year.
Health aside, I think we're at the point where an average, game-managing QB should be OK. Not a great OL, but presumably solid with the new additions. Good WRs, potentially great. Need help at RB and TE, but we can work around that in a lot of situations.
As much as I don't like the idea of paying DJ what we're paying him, even he should succeed with this group. Let's just hope he doesn't get hurt.
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Apr 26, 2024 9:59:28 GMT -5
I00% think the OL needs to improve big time for all to survive Jones is can be a the bridge to the next QB with protection he could keep the team competitive. I think they got a top 5 talent a guy who would be 1 or 2 in most drafts thats the kind of talent he needs to procure our WR room is a bit scary right now. Joe needs to keep chipping away at position groups think WR is set they need to get the DB room up to the WR room more premium guys CBs and OL need to be strengths.
Do you not think the OL is improved after the FA period?
These days I hope I have believed a few times over the years that it was better or fixed it actually was in 2022 I hope now and believe when I see it everything points to it but I need to see to believe I'm actually seeing it.
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Post by krappdetector on Apr 26, 2024 10:01:37 GMT -5
Atlanta was bold.. and we will benefit. Kirk Cousins, 2025, a New York Giant!
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Apr 26, 2024 10:03:52 GMT -5
Did you pick this pick?? That's impressive if so. He did, but I've yet to hear his thinking behind it.
If I was Cousins and an older Falcon player, I'd be pissed about this pick.
Strangest thing with this pick Penix has a top 10 arm yes he has not great pocket awareness and he will have time to work on that with cousins there but he is 24 if cousins is playing at a high level going into year 3 of his deal Penix might be a 26 or 27 year old first year starter. The deeper you look the less sense it makes especially not telling the guy you just signed.
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Apr 26, 2024 10:07:58 GMT -5
I think we'll be far more competitive on offense if it comes together and the group stays healthy. But the ceiling for the offense with Jones will be disappointing relative to how dynamic the pass catching group could be with Nabers in the mix. Nabers, Slayton, Hyatt, outside of the Dolphins what team has a core receiving group with that much speed?
Nabers is going to open things up for everyone. Watch Hyatt break out and Slayton have his best year.
Health aside, I think we're at the point where an average, game-managing QB should be OK. Not a great OL, but presumably solid with the new additions. Good WRs, potentially great. Need help at RB and TE, but we can work around that in a lot of situations.
As much as I don't like the idea of paying DJ what we're paying him, even he should succeed with this group. Let's just hope he doesn't get hurt.
Wandale will benefit in a big way underneath good luck 1 on 1 there Nabors Slayton on deep crosses and Hyatt keeping them honest thye mix that recipe up a lot of different ways add and explosive RB maybe Benson or Wright and it might get scary around here if they can block.
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Post by DandyDon on Apr 26, 2024 10:16:16 GMT -5
If we continue to have a bad OL that doesnt know how to handle basic stunts, its not going to matter much. After this off-season do you really expect a bad O-Line? History aside, we added 3 capable players. Two with legit starting experience and versatility. At worst, I think it's fair to expect play comparable to 2022. If so, even DJ can succeed. Nabers makes it that much better. I've learned not to expect anything from this team. Are those 4 capable players going to get hurt before the season even starts? History would say they won't make it through the season.
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Post by myronguyton29 on Apr 26, 2024 10:22:27 GMT -5
I think we'll be far more competitive on offense if it comes together and the group stays healthy. But the ceiling for the offense with Jones will be disappointing relative to how dynamic the pass catching group could be with Nabers in the mix. Nabers, Slayton, Hyatt, outside of the Dolphins what team has a core receiving group with that much speed?
Nabers is going to open things up for everyone. Watch Hyatt break out and Slayton have his best year.
Health aside, I think we're at the point where an average, game-managing QB should be OK. Not a great OL, but presumably solid with the new additions. Good WRs, potentially great. Need help at RB and TE, but we can work around that in a lot of situations.
As much as I don't like the idea of paying DJ what we're paying him, even he should succeed with this group. Let's just hope he doesn't get hurt.
and you know what the crazy thing is, if he can stay healthy which should be a better chance given not running for his life hopefully because the line WILL be better this year I mean it/they have no choice!!! i know he has heard all of the rumblings and the noise and folks usually are motivated by being told so to speak that you can't do something, so to speak that you should be replaced ect ect ect..... I think Jones will be motivated. We don't need him to be Mahomes we just need him to find the open man and find the not open man sometimes by putting the ball where only his man really has a chance. He'll have to take chances sometimes and throw guys open. I think if our team is improved he can be that guy to even if he has to sor of manage, he can do so decently effective until we can find OUR GUY...... I'm stoked and ready for Day 2 to keep adding. I think we at the least will be significantly better and at the least not come out week 1 looking like a HS team. We will be ready to compete and function; Win or Lose.........
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Post by myronguyton29 on Apr 26, 2024 10:24:01 GMT -5
Chris Simms had him as his #1 receiver over Harrison.
There were a lot of scouts and personnel people who did this kid is different special player. absolutely and I think he's gonna be motivated to show them they were correct....
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Post by myronguyton29 on Apr 26, 2024 10:25:55 GMT -5
Atlanta was bold.. and we will benefit. Kirk Cousins, 2025, a New York Giant! very possible and he can come in if need be and be the bride for a few years. With the weapons we have we definitely will be able to compete highly for the division.....
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Post by Roosevelt on Apr 26, 2024 10:32:08 GMT -5
He did, but I've yet to hear his thinking behind it.
If I was Cousins and an older Falcon player, I'd be pissed about this pick.
Strangest thing with this pick Penix has a top 10 arm yes he has not great pocket awareness and he will have time to work on that with cousins there but he is 24 if cousins is playing at a high level going into year 3 of his deal Penix might be a 26 or 27 year old first year starter. The deeper you look the less sense it makes especially not telling the guy you just signed.
Yeah good point about his age.
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Apr 26, 2024 10:45:17 GMT -5
Atlanta was bold.. and we will benefit. Kirk Cousins, 2025, a New York Giant! very possible and he can come in if need be and be the bride for a few years. With the weapons we have we definitely will be able to compete highly for the division..... The falcons need to develop Penix as quickly as possible he has work to do his pocket presence and accuracy under-fire 2 of the main things, that said at 24 they better get the Giants or someone to trade for Cousins because they wait three years were talking 27 year old first time starter.
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Apr 26, 2024 10:53:29 GMT -5
Very happy to have Nabors thought he was right there with Harrison dude is super charged.
the other thing I'm happy about Schoen liked Williams and Maye, from what I'm reading is he approached the Bears about the#1 pick in january was told no.
Went hard on Maye Pats said no he tried, it's good didn't take the list of QBs and say well now that the 2 I believe in are gone i'm gonna settle fro the next guy in line great discipline not reaching happy for more than 1 reason.
We have a number 1 WR for the first time in 5 years.
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Post by Kruunch on Apr 26, 2024 11:13:24 GMT -5
Who needs a pulse when my dark heart beats to its own drum.. As the dust settles.. there is always a calm after the storm. Once the quarterbacks came off the board.. It was painfully obvious what direction we were going. It was Maye or bust.. And with Nabers there for the taking.
We waited if anyone wanted to be fleeced before we handed our card in. This isn’t a vote of confidence for Jones.. Or a new lease on life. He’s a dead man walking.. The hype was real.. we wanted a quarterback. New England was not budging even if we pushed them.
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Post by cdngfan on Apr 26, 2024 11:15:16 GMT -5
Very happy to have Nabors thought he was right there with Harrison dude is super charged. the other thing I'm happy about Schoen liked Williams and Maye, from what I'm reading is he approached the Bears about the#1 pick in january was told no. Went hard on Maye Pats said no he tried, it's good didn't take the list of QBs and say well now that the 2 I believe in are gone i'm gonna settle fro the next guy in line great discipline not reaching happy for more than 1 reason. We have a number 1 WR for the first time in 5 years. I know some fans will disagree with it, but Joe sees a more likely path to a good W/L record with Nabers and the 2-3 other picks in his pocket, than with Maye and Slayton as your WR1. Jones is and will be a business decision, they’re not in love with him or thinking he’s going to be awesome. It they thought that, DJ would have a 6 year deal with a $10 million cap hit this year. They’re hoping his play over the next year will be as good as a rookie QB with a functional offence around it. They’re focusing on the functional offence, as they should. Their biggest need wasnt QB. Their biggest need was not ending up with another Neal at #6.
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Post by cdngfan on Apr 26, 2024 11:22:35 GMT -5
Who needs a pulse when my dark heart beats to its own drum.. As the dust settles.. there is always a calm after the storm. Once the quarterbacks came off the board.. It was painfully obvious what direction we were going. It was Maye or bust.. And with Nabers there for the taking. We waited if anyone wanted to be fleeced before we handed our card in. This isn’t a vote of confidence for Jones.. Or a new lease on life. He’s a dead man walking.. The hype was real.. we wanted a quarterback. New England was not budging even if we pushed them. perfectly said. This isn’t a vote of confidence at all. We tried to trade up. That’s the exact opposite of a vote of confidence. He’s marked. There’s no “patience” left, just another 9 months on a cuttable contract.
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Post by ThatGuyRich on Apr 26, 2024 11:29:15 GMT -5
I thought the Giants were going Nabors for the last month or more. But when JJ fell to #6 I thought we were going to pick him. Either way I'm ok either could have worked out for us imo.
I picked Nabors in my mock draft. I got the first 6 picks right. By the way I kept saying the Chargers were picking Alt I knew I was going to be right on that. Got 10 picks right the best I ever did.
To get back to what's important Nabors should help our passing game big time. With the concentration on him everyone else should be a little better. Our 2nd rd pick imo hopefully is the best defensive player. My target DL or CB.
These 2 picks should be starters for us, lets make the 2nd rd pick as solid as the 1st rd pick.
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Post by McCherry on Apr 26, 2024 11:36:40 GMT -5
Who needs a pulse when my dark heart beats to its own drum.. As the dust settles.. there is always a calm after the storm. Once the quarterbacks came off the board.. It was painfully obvious what direction we were going. It was Maye or bust.. And with Nabers there for the taking. We waited if anyone wanted to be fleeced before we handed our card in. This isn’t a vote of confidence for Jones.. Or a new lease on life. He’s a dead man walking.. The hype was real.. we wanted a quarterback. New England was not budging even if we pushed them. Schoen can avoid the question all he wants at press conferences, but Maye was their plan and their hope. Nabers was the consolation prize. Nobody can tell me Daboll/Schoen didn't have a "so, what now?" conversation last night.
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Post by inconvenientruth on Apr 26, 2024 11:38:55 GMT -5
Who needs a pulse when my dark heart beats to its own drum.. As the dust settles.. there is always a calm after the storm. Once the quarterbacks came off the board.. It was painfully obvious what direction we were going. It was Maye or bust.. And with Nabers there for the taking. We waited if anyone wanted to be fleeced before we handed our card in. This isn’t a vote of confidence for Jones.. Or a new lease on life. He’s a dead man walking.. The hype was real.. we wanted a quarterback. New England was not budging even if we pushed them. perfectly said. This isn’t a vote of confidence at all. We tried to trade up. That’s the exact opposite of a vote of confidence. He’s marked. There’s no “patience” left, just another 9 months on a cuttable contract. cuttable as long as the injury guarantee doesn't kick in.
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Post by inconvenientruth on Apr 26, 2024 11:45:20 GMT -5
Very happy to have Nabors thought he was right there with Harrison dude is super charged. the other thing I'm happy about Schoen liked Williams and Maye, from what I'm reading is he approached the Bears about the#1 pick in january was told no. Went hard on Maye Pats said no he tried, it's good didn't take the list of QBs and say well now that the 2 I believe in are gone i'm gonna settle fro the next guy in line great discipline not reaching happy for more than 1 reason. We have a number 1 WR for the first time in 5 years. I know some fans will disagree with it, but Joe sees a more likely path to a good W/L record with Nabers and the 2-3 other picks in his pocket, than with Maye and Slayton as your WR1. Jones is and will be a business decision, they’re not in love with him or thinking he’s going to be awesome. It they thought that, DJ would have a 6 year deal with a $10 million cap hit this year. They’re hoping his play over the next year will be as good as a rookie QB with a functional offence around it. They’re focusing on the functional offence, as they should. Their biggest need wasnt QB. Their biggest need was not ending up with another Neal at #6. Playoffs are the expectation, as well as top-15 production from their chosen QB-1, Lock or Jones. 3 years is a lifetime in this league! This is Schoens roster. They've doubled down on this QB group and now we wait, and see. If QB wasn't their biggest need. I have to understand why it may be the poorest QB group in the league, currently.
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Post by ratbastich on Apr 26, 2024 11:45:46 GMT -5
I would've liked a QB but I'm good with Nabers. This is an all-in for Schoen and Daboll so they better hope they are right about this. The Sword of Damocles is ever-present. With the way the board fell, would you have preferred McCarthy? Or did you want to trade up/back for the QB?
Hope not....would love some continuity with this franchise. It's odd that this is the first GM/HC we've had for more than three years since Coughlin.
Great reference. I think Nabers is a player no matter what, so he's not the sword, but agreed in general.
No, I was hoping they could make the move up for Maye. I don't know what their feelings were about McCarthy and I would not have been against them taking him, but if they didn't feel he was the guy then don't pick him. Six was a tough spot in that there were some top-skill guys there so do you pick them or go for a QB? If you were in the top 3, or mid-round, the decision would've been easier. Like I said, I'm good with Nabers, but if Jones or Lock can't get him the ball we are going to be right back here next year.
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Post by McCherry on Apr 26, 2024 12:21:15 GMT -5
I know some fans will disagree with it, but Joe sees a more likely path to a good W/L record with Nabers and the 2-3 other picks in his pocket, than with Maye and Slayton as your WR1. Jones is and will be a business decision, they’re not in love with him or thinking he’s going to be awesome. It they thought that, DJ would have a 6 year deal with a $10 million cap hit this year. They’re hoping his play over the next year will be as good as a rookie QB with a functional offence around it. They’re focusing on the functional offence, as they should. Their biggest need wasnt QB. Their biggest need was not ending up with another Neal at #6. Playoffs are the expectation, as well as top-15 production from their chosen QB-1, Lock or Jones. 3 years is a lifetime in this league! This is Schoens roster. They've doubled down on this QB group and now we wait, and see. If QB wasn't their biggest need. I have to understand why it may be the poorest QB group in the league, currently. I don't know that anyone is expecting playoffs based on one addition. I think not getting smacked around like a college team should be the realistic expectation this year. We should expect to be competitive, but I think the line will remain 7-8 wins this year.
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