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Post by piddy283 on Apr 26, 2024 6:57:17 GMT -5
Happy Friday Ladies. Happy Friday Gents.
How we feeling? Yay or nay?
Here are our thoughts the last two years..... |
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Post by Fletch842 on Apr 26, 2024 6:59:08 GMT -5
I say Yay. If you look at my past posts, I was not a fan of selling the farm to move up for Maye, and while I thought we would take JJ if he fell to us, my preference was always for Odunze or Nabers.
I'm way more excited about the Rangers prospect this year then the Knicks, btw, even if/when they push by the sixers.
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Post by ratbastich on Apr 26, 2024 7:28:23 GMT -5
I would've liked a QB but I'm good with Nabers. This is an all-in for Schoen and Daboll so they better hope they are right about this. The Sword of Damocles is ever-present.
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Post by Rangers13 on Apr 26, 2024 7:29:36 GMT -5
I feel the same as when the Giants drafted OBJ and Barkley. I keep asking about the QB and the team keeps on losing.
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Post by Dezzr on Apr 26, 2024 7:30:36 GMT -5
I wanted to trade back but Im ok with it. Just hope he's not another Toney. Lets keep building.
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Post by ratbastich on Apr 26, 2024 7:41:41 GMT -5
I wanted to trade back but Im ok with it. Just hope he's not another Toney. Lets keep building. Speaking of that...KC moved up to draft Xavier Worthy...is he replacing Toney? |
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Post by GameTime on Apr 26, 2024 7:42:05 GMT -5
great player
will he be able to be great on this team? Not so sure
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Post by DandyDon on Apr 26, 2024 7:45:07 GMT -5
great player will he be able to be great on this team? Not so sure If we continue to have a bad OL that doesnt know how to handle basic stunts, its not going to matter much. |
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Post by robl on Apr 26, 2024 7:45:30 GMT -5
I feel the same as when the Giants drafted OBJ and Barkley. I keep asking about the QB and the team keeps on losing. When we drafted Barkley the board wanted Rosen or Darnauld. How would that have worked out? |
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Post by idkaname on Apr 26, 2024 7:48:05 GMT -5
I feel the same as when the Giants drafted OBJ and Barkley. I keep asking about the QB and the team keeps on losing. Yeah, we should've picked Sam Darnold in 2018 instead. and Johnny Manziel in 2014. Thanks for blessing us with your insight That was basically our options this year at QB with the 6th pick, Darnold and Manziel |
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Post by Rangers13 on Apr 26, 2024 7:51:02 GMT -5
I feel the same as when the Giants drafted OBJ and Barkley. I keep asking about the QB and the team keeps on losing. Yeah, we should've picked Sam Darnold in 2018 instead. and Johnny Manziel in 2014. Thanks for blessing us with your insight That was basically our options this year at QB with the 6th pick, Darnold and Manziel Actually they passed on a Qb and with six going in the top 12 I wonder why the Giants didn’t try moving back and still land a top WR. but why debate or speculate when thinking isn’t on your list while throwing out random names which never hit in the past makes sense? Why not add Allen to your list being you celebrated Barkley? |
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Post by piddy283 on Apr 26, 2024 7:52:24 GMT -5
I say Yay. If you look at my past posts, I was not a fan of selling the farm to move up for Maye, and while I thought we would take JJ if he fell to us, my preference was always for Odunze or Nabers. I' m way more excited about the Rangers prospect this year then the Knicks, btw, even if/when they push by the sixers. Ooooooo.......was a Rangers "fan" growing up. Can't consider myself a die hard because I don't watch much hockey in general, but that was my team....Messier, Bookaboom (sp?), Richter, etc. When the Canes came to Raleigh I ended up converting to red though. Didn't think I would, but when they played each other I found myself pulling for the home team. Couldn't help it. I will say, that would never happen if it came to football. Raleigh could get a team tomorrow and it wouldn't matter to me.
Would love to see a match-up between the two next round. Don't know who's the better match-up between the Rangers and the Caps, but would prefer the Rangers just because.
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Post by Rangers13 on Apr 26, 2024 7:53:42 GMT -5
I feel the same as when the Giants drafted OBJ and Barkley. I keep asking about the QB and the team keeps on losing. When we drafted Barkley the board wanted Rosen or Darnauld. How would that have worked out? Allen? Trade back? Answer the phone? How did the Barkley years work out? |
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Post by piddy283 on Apr 26, 2024 7:55:54 GMT -5
I would've liked a QB but I'm good with Nabers. This is an all-in for Schoen and Daboll so they better hope they are right about this. The Sword of Damocles is ever-present. With the way the board fell, would you have preferred McCarthy? Or did you want to trade up/back for the QB?
Hope not....would love some continuity with this franchise. It's odd that this is the first GM/HC we've had for more than three years since Coughlin.
Great reference. I think Nabers is a player no matter what, so he's not the sword, but agreed in general.
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Post by piddy283 on Apr 26, 2024 7:56:52 GMT -5
I feel the same as when the Giants drafted OBJ and Barkley. I keep asking about the QB and the team keeps on losing. Who would you have gotten at #6? Or would you have traded back.....assuming that was an option?
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Post by Rangers13 on Apr 26, 2024 8:00:05 GMT -5
I feel the same as when the Giants drafted OBJ and Barkley. I keep asking about the QB and the team keeps on losing. Who would you have gotten at #6? Or would you have traded back.....assuming that was an option?
Six QBs went in the top 12. I would have moved back. To think they actually were trying to move up tells us what we need to know about Jones. To think the cost was too high tells us they know they can’t afford the price b/c they need to fill holes. So go QB or move back is my thinking. |
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Post by piddy283 on Apr 26, 2024 8:00:30 GMT -5
great player will he be able to be great on this team? Not so sure If we continue to have a bad OL that doesnt know how to handle basic stunts, its not going to matter much. After this off-season do you really expect a bad O-Line? History aside, we added 3 capable players. Two with legit starting experience and versatility. At worst, I think it's fair to expect play comparable to 2022. If so, even DJ can succeed. Nabers makes it that much better. |
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Post by roundabout on Apr 26, 2024 8:02:19 GMT -5
I feel the same as when the Giants drafted OBJ and Barkley. I keep asking about the QB and the team keeps on losing. This team has many other holes besides a QB,They need players at almost every position |
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Post by Fletch842 on Apr 26, 2024 8:02:47 GMT -5
Who would you have gotten at #6? Or would you have traded back.....assuming that was an option?
Six QBs went in the top 12. I would have moved back. To think they actually were trying to move up tells us what we need to know about Jones. To think the cost was too high tells us they know they can’t afford the price b/c they need to fill holes. So go QB or move back is my thinking. perhaps we tried to, buht no one was offering/accepting anything worth our while to do so. We'll never know the answer to that. |
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Post by piddy283 on Apr 26, 2024 8:03:57 GMT -5
Yeah, we should've picked Sam Darnold in 2018 instead. and Johnny Manziel in 2014. Thanks for blessing us with your insight That was basically our options this year at QB with the 6th pick, Darnold and Manziel but why debate or speculate when thinking isn’t on your list while throwing out random names which never hit in the past makes sense? Why not add Allen to your list being you celebrated Barkley? Were you hoping for a trade back? If so, who was your hope at QB assuming that's the position you'd go after? |
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Post by vbgiantsfan on Apr 26, 2024 8:04:27 GMT -5
We now have a starting WR corp of:
Nabers, Robinson, and Hyatt/Slayton
That is a lethal WR group, with 2 who can get a ton of YAC and 2 who can take the top off a defense on every down.
We still don't have a QB, but with a seemingly improved O-line, I expect Jones to finally be consistently mediocre now.
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Post by Fletch842 on Apr 26, 2024 8:04:30 GMT -5
If we continue to have a bad OL that doesnt know how to handle basic stunts, its not going to matter much. After this off-season do you really expect a bad O-Line? History aside, we added 3 capable players. Two with legit starting experience and versatility. At worst, I think it's fair to expect play comparable to 2022. If so, even DJ can succeed. Nabers makes it that much better. I'm hoping the O Line play elevates to average, which would be a huge step up, given the  we saw last year. 2022 was pretty mediocre, which was also a lot better, lol. |
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Post by piddy283 on Apr 26, 2024 8:05:16 GMT -5
Actually they passed on a Qb and with six going in the top 12 I wonder why the Giants didn’t try moving back and still land a top WR.but why debate or speculate when thinking isn’t on your list while throwing out random names which never hit in the past makes sense? Why not add Allen to your list being you celebrated Barkley? Were you hoping for a trade back? If so, who was your hope at QB assuming that's the position you'd go after? Sorry....scrolling through and realized I asked you the same question twice.  |
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Post by idkaname on Apr 26, 2024 8:07:11 GMT -5
Yeah, we should've picked Sam Darnold in 2018 instead. and Johnny Manziel in 2014. Thanks for blessing us with your insight That was basically our options this year at QB with the 6th pick, Darnold and Manziel Actually they passed on a Qb and with six going in the top 12 I wonder why the Giants didn’t try moving back and still land a top WR. but why debate or speculate when thinking isn’t on your list while throwing out random names which never hit in the past makes sense? Why not add Allen to your list being you celebrated Barkley? I brought up the next QB taken off board after those picks, which correlates to the amount of hype / level of prospect they were so we would have probably went with those options as well. Also, that furthers my point, we passed on multiple options at QB because they were likely on-par as prospects as the QBs i mentioned |
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Post by Rangers13 on Apr 26, 2024 8:07:51 GMT -5
Actually they passed on a Qb and with six going in the top 12 I wonder why the Giants didn’t try moving back and still land a top WR.but why debate or speculate when thinking isn’t on your list while throwing out random names which never hit in the past makes sense? Why not add Allen to your list being you celebrated Barkley? Were you hoping for a trade back? If so, who was your hope at QB assuming that's the position you'd go after? Said before, draft a QB or trade back. I figured McCarthy. It’s not like he dropped too far as he went at #10. Six in 12 picks!! Tells me teams wanted QBs and the Raiders still need one. |
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Post by Rangers13 on Apr 26, 2024 8:11:35 GMT -5
We now have a starting WR corp of: Nabers, Robinson, and Hyatt/Slayton That is a lethal WR group, with 2 who can get a tone of YAC and 2 who can take the top off a defense on every down. We still don't have a QB, but with a seemingly improved O-line, I expect Jones to finally be consistently mediocre now.we’ll lose our shiat if we see him taking off running. Although the broadcast hype machine will praise his athleticism despite receivers open downfield. |
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Post by GameTime on Apr 26, 2024 8:13:03 GMT -5
great player will he be able to be great on this team? Not so sure If we continue to have a bad OL that doesnt know how to handle basic stunts, its not going to matter much. OL, QB, coaching.... its all skeptical at this point |
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Post by OrangeGiant on Apr 26, 2024 8:18:43 GMT -5
I am happy with the pick. I did not want to see them trade up and lose draft capital for anyone but JD.
They obviously didn't feel strong enough about Maye, Penix or JJ (and could have taken JJ outright) to make a move for them. Or maybe in the end, there weren't willing partners-sounds like NE just decided to stay put.
This roster has improved significantly (on paper), and there is still the rest of the draft to continue to improve, and still get a QB which I think they will do.
I'm glad they didn't reach for Penix and JJ-and that is exactly what I think those picks are...reaches. Maybe that turns out to be untrue, but they obviously felt the same way.
Let's see what happens in the coming rounds.
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Post by cdngfan on Apr 26, 2024 8:23:16 GMT -5
24’ was always going to be about the play of the o line. QB WR, doesn’t really matter.
JS cant keep his job if the o line sucks in 25’, and he can’t keep his job if this picks sucks in 25’. You don’t get to keep your job because you tried to get a QB.
Now that the hype is settling and we’re all breathing as fans again, the story of 24’ was always going to be the line and if Daboll can lower his blood pressure managing the game and his staff.
If those two things happen this will be a better team. If they don’t we’re looking at another toilet flush in January 26’.
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Post by piddy283 on Apr 26, 2024 8:25:52 GMT -5
I am happy with the pick. I did not want to see them trade up and lose draft capital for anyone but JD. They obviously didn't feel strong enough about Maye, Penix or JJ (and could have taken JJ outright) to make a move for them. Or maybe in the end, there weren't willing partners-sounds like NE just decided to stay put. This roster has improved significantly (on paper), and there is still the rest of the draft to continue to improve, and still get a QB which I think they will do. I'm glad they didn't reach for Penix ajd JJ-and that is exactly what I think those picks are...reaches. Maybe that turns out to be untrue, but they obviously felt the same way. Let's see what happens in the coming rounds. Hey OG, would you stop with these practical, level-headed responses. You're making too much sense. |
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we saw last year. 2022 was pretty mediocre, which was also a lot better, lol.
