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Post by DJones19 on Sept 27, 2024 17:50:04 GMT -5
Interesting.... Look at the top 4 names lol Daniel Jones is tied with Josh Allen?  Wow, the league offensive MVP has half the completion % as Jones on deep passes. Stroud must be cold too. Nice to see Dalton do well...I've seen him disrespected so much as a 3x Pro-Bowl QB...I dropped his name a few times as a Jones replacement the last few years. |
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Post by myronguyton29 on Sept 27, 2024 17:54:09 GMT -5
Interesting.... Look at the top 4 names lol Daniel Jones is tied with Josh Allen? but at least Josh Allen can throw guys open and also place the ball where the recievers can catch and keep running so essentially making bigger plays with what they catch.......  |
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Post by myronguyton29 on Sept 27, 2024 17:59:38 GMT -5
was so much damn AIR?...even on that one where Nabers got wide open it was very late and a damn Floater which slowed him down from cutting up field and cutting back inside on that Safety for a TD was it Windy last night? WTF! that is just sad. Someone need to ask him about his ball placement and throwing recievers open, allowing them to catch and run, ect ect ect smdh....... I'm curios to know what his responses will be |
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Post by miggs on Sept 27, 2024 19:06:35 GMT -5
Posters like Schoen and others who don't realize Jones is very good and don't realize how bad Daboll is, simply don't know football and deserve rooting for a bad team.
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Post by Danke Schoen on Sept 27, 2024 20:15:03 GMT -5
Posters like Schoen and others who don't realize Jones is very good and don't realize how bad Daboll is, simply don't know football and deserve rooting for a bad team. You're like a Chatty Cathy doll... only you're pulling your own string just to regurgitate the same shit over and over again. You ignore all film breakdowns, cannot even begin to talk Xs and Os and never offer any objectivity. You're infatuated with a 20-something male who happens to be a shitty NFL QB. All you can do is continually make worn out, obsolete and sad excuses to ensure your Jones blow up doll doesn't deflate to the point you can't use it. Can't wait for Jones to get the **** off this roster and watch you go follow him to whatever team's forum he lands on. |
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Post by vinnie on Sept 27, 2024 20:40:14 GMT -5
Posters like Schoen and others who don't realize Jones is very good and don't realize how bad Daboll is, simply don't know football and deserve rooting for a bad team. You're like a Chatty Cathy doll... only you're pulling your own string just to regurgitate the same shit over and over again. You ignore all film breakdowns, cannot even begin to talk Xs and Os and never offer any objectivity. You're infatuated with a 20-something male who happens to be a shitty NFL QB. All you can do is continually make worn out, obsolete and sad excuses to ensure your Jones blow up doll doesn't deflate to the point you can't use it. Can't wait for Jones to get the **** off this roster and watch you go follow him to whatever team's forum he lands on. Reminds me of Planes, Trains and Automobiles when Steve Martin goes off on John Candy in the motel room. |
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Post by Danke Schoen on Sept 27, 2024 21:32:21 GMT -5
You're like a Chatty Cathy doll... only you're pulling your own string just to regurgitate the same shit over and over again. You ignore all film breakdowns, cannot even begin to talk Xs and Os and never offer any objectivity. You're infatuated with a 20-something male who happens to be a shitty NFL QB. All you can do is continually make worn out, obsolete and sad excuses to ensure your Jones blow up doll doesn't deflate to the point you can't use it. Can't wait for Jones to get the **** off this roster and watch you go follow him to whatever team's forum he lands on. Reminds me of Planes, Trains and Automobiles when Steve Martin goes off on John Candy in the motel room. One of my favorite all time comedies. |
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Post by miggs on Sept 28, 2024 4:02:37 GMT -5
Schoen. Vinnie, and Ranger are the Three Amigos. All agree that Jones is bad. Wonder if they have coached a sport? They disagree with both Gruden and Manning who both love Jones. Believe I'm in the right camp.
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Post by Fletch842 on Sept 28, 2024 6:49:41 GMT -5
You're like a Chatty Cathy doll... only you're pulling your own string just to regurgitate the same shit over and over again. You ignore all film breakdowns, cannot even begin to talk Xs and Os and never offer any objectivity. You're infatuated with a 20-something male who happens to be a shitty NFL QB. All you can do is continually make worn out, obsolete and sad excuses to ensure your Jones blow up doll doesn't deflate to the point you can't use it. Can't wait for Jones to get the **** off this roster and watch you go follow him to whatever team's forum he lands on. Reminds me of Planes, Trains and Automobiles when Steve Martin goes off on John Candy in the motel room. that's a nice fluffy pillow... |
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Post by Rangers13 on Sept 28, 2024 7:00:46 GMT -5
Schoen. Vinnie, and Ranger are the Three Amigos. All agree that Jones is is bad. Wonder if they have coached a sport? They disagree with both Gruden and Manning who both love Jones. Believe I'm in the right camp. you’re a loser. That’s your camp |
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Post by Danke Schoen on Sept 28, 2024 7:22:50 GMT -5
Schoen. Vinnie, and Ranger are the Three Amigos. All agree that Jones is bad. Wonder if they have coached a sport? They disagree with both Gruden and Manning who both love Jones. Believe I'm in the right camp. Your takes are less accurate than Jones’ deep balls. And your winning percentage is worse than Jones’. |
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Post by GameTime on Sept 28, 2024 7:36:11 GMT -5
Schoen. Vinnie, and Ranger are the Three Amigos. All agree that Jones is bad. Wonder if they have coached a sport? They disagree with both Gruden and Manning who both love Jones. Believe I'm in the right camp. Jones is not a bad QB he just doesn't have "it". You as well as everyone sees it almost every week. The kid just cannot make the big plays when they are there. How much more open can receivers be on deep passes then they were vs Washington and Dallas. He is blowing those huge chunk plays. No QB makes all those throws but they have to make at least some of them. He has missed on most. Vs Dallas the two biggest issues on offense were the complete lack of a run game and Jones blowing big time opportunities. Even with the poor run game if Jones hit two of those huge plays the NYGs probably get a close win. He hits on 3 or 4 of those they win by a bunch. A few drops were issues too but that happens as well. Its more Jones for sure. . |
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Post by Fletch842 on Sept 28, 2024 8:13:49 GMT -5
Schoen. Vinnie, and Ranger are the Three Amigos. All agree that Jones is bad. Wonder if they have coached a sport? They disagree with both Gruden and Manning who both love Jones. Believe I'm in the right camp. Jones is not a bad QB he just doesn't have "it". You as well as everyone sees it almost every week. The kid just cannot make the big plays when they are there. How much more open can receivers be on deep passes then they were vs Washington and Dallas. He is blowing those huge chunk plays. No QB makes all those throws but they have to make at least some of them. He has missed on most. Vs Dallas the two biggest issues on offense were the complete lack of a run game and Jones blowing big time opportunities. Even with the poor run game if Jones hit two of those huge plays the NYGs probably get a close win. He hits on 3 or 4 of those they win by a bunch. A few drops were issues too but that happens as well. Its more Jones for sure. . as you say, he's not bad, but he's also not good, kinda in QB purgatory. |
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Post by miggs on Sept 28, 2024 8:39:39 GMT -5
Schoen. Vinnie, and Ranger are the Three Amigos. All agree that Jones is bad. Wonder if they have coached a sport? They disagree with both Gruden and Manning who both love Jones. Believe I'm in the right camp. Jones is not a bad QB he just doesn't have "it". You as well as everyone sees it almost every week. The kid just cannot make the big plays when they are there. How much more open can receivers be on deep passes then they were vs Washington and Dallas. He is blowing those huge chunk plays. No QB makes all those throws but they have to make at least some of them. He has missed on most. Vs Dallas the two biggest issues on offense were the complete lack of a run game and Jones blowing big time opportunities. Even with the poor run game if Jones hit two of those huge plays the NYGs probably get a close win. He hits on 3 or 4 of those they win by a bunch. A few drops were issues too but that happens as well. Its more Jones for sure. . The Giants have played but for games. He hit a long pass the Slayton in the first game. He has thrown well on long passes in his first year. We've played just a few games and the sample is small. He's thrown deep balls on the mark in practice. I know from coaching that if a player has the physical tools it's rather easy to make to correct his throwing motion to get the trajectory, and as well as tell him what to do with his eyes so his throws are on point. So Jones completing deep passes is the least of my Giants worries. I think he'll do quite well on deep passes during the season. He's shown me time and time again he's a clutch player. Did that time and time again in Daboll's first season as he turned almost certain defeats in victories numerous time. Just look at his pass toward the end of the game he fired the ball to Nabers along the sidelines that he dropped. Threaded the needle earier in the game as well. I look for Jones throwing to continue to be at a very high percentage and for him to pass for a lot of yards OL if Daboll's plays and playing calling keep the Giants on the field and receivers run to beyond the down markers. |
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Post by Nite on Sept 28, 2024 8:51:29 GMT -5
+1 Keep away from sugars and processed food!! When you have the time research how much our food supply is made to be addictive. It will explain a lot. BTW/FYI even though I joke about alcohol - in reality I am an abstainer. Tried it a few times bad results. my body cannot process it . They’re definitely triggers for me. I avoid them 99% of the time. It’s more behavioural for me. Family is filled with addicts and I have the gentlest version (drugs alcohol and gambling are much worse). I need to think of food as fuel most of the time, and prioritize how much I “love” something less. It’s a responsibility like a job or raising kids. I don’t feel like doing algebra at 9:45 or going to work on a snowy Monday in February, but I do it. Same thing as ordering fish and a salad when everyone else is crushing wings and fries at a restaurant. Deprioritizing food pleasure makes everything better in my life. Just have to remind myself that it’s a better than fair deal in my favour. Keep in mind what makes food pleasurable is just chemical manipulation by the food companies especially processed junk food. People forgot how delicious natural unmodified food really is |
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Post by Modog on Sept 28, 2024 9:11:36 GMT -5
His stats look good on paper, but anyone who watched the game know he is the one holding the team back.
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Post by Morehead State on Sept 28, 2024 9:12:30 GMT -5
Schoen. Vinnie, and Ranger are the Three Amigos. All agree that Jones is bad. Wonder if they have coached a sport? They disagree with both Gruden and Manning who both love Jones. Believe I'm in the right camp. I think you numbers are a tad off. 99% of Giants fans think Jones is bad. It's you who's in the tiny minority. |
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Post by Fletch842 on Sept 28, 2024 9:18:03 GMT -5
Schoen. Vinnie, and Ranger are the Three Amigos. All agree that Jones is bad. Wonder if they have coached a sport? They disagree with both Gruden and Manning who both love Jones. Believe I'm in the right camp. I think you numbers are a tad off. 99% of Giants fans think Jones is bad. It's you who's in the tiny minority. just a tad, eh, lol... |
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Post by miggs on Sept 28, 2024 9:29:44 GMT -5
Schoen. Vinnie, and Ranger are the Three Amigos. All agree that Jones is bad. Wonder if they have coached a sport? They disagree with both Gruden and Manning who both love Jones. Believe I'm in the right camp. I think you numbers are a tad off. 99% of Giants fans think Jones is bad. It's you who's in the tiny minority. Don't say that when Jones would have completed 85 percent of 40 passes but for drop balls. But I agree there are a good number of fans who see two or three bad long passes in a game who don't like him. That number would be less so and his misses not so magnified if the Giants had won. That's very tunneled vision in my book. It's bad plays and turnovers that mostly cost a team a win rather than a few missed passes. If the Giants had a QB who missed some of passes Jones completed, the Giants would have punting and scoring even fewer points than they did. But some fans don't get that. |
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Post by Danke Schoen on Sept 28, 2024 9:48:58 GMT -5
Jones is not a bad QB he just doesn't have "it". You as well as everyone sees it almost every week. The kid just cannot make the big plays when they are there. How much more open can receivers be on deep passes then they were vs Washington and Dallas. He is blowing those huge chunk plays. No QB makes all those throws but they have to make at least some of them. He has missed on most. Vs Dallas the two biggest issues on offense were the complete lack of a run game and Jones blowing big time opportunities. Even with the poor run game if Jones hit two of those huge plays the NYGs probably get a close win. He hits on 3 or 4 of those they win by a bunch. A few drops were issues too but that happens as well. Its more Jones for sure. . The Giants have played but for games. He hit a long pass the Slayton in the first game. He has thrown well on long passes in his first year. We've played just a few games and the sample is small. He's thrown deep balls on the mark in practice. I know from coaching that if a player has the physical tools it's rather easy to make to correct his throwing motion to get the trajectory, and as well as tell him what to do with his eyes so his throws are on point. So Jones completing deep passes is the least of my Giants worries. I think he'll do quite well on deep passes during the season. He's shown me time and time again he's a clutch player. Did that time and time again in Daboll's first season as he turned almost certain defeats in victories numerous time. Just look at his pass toward the end of the game he fired the ball to Nabers along the sidelines that he dropped. Threaded the needle earier in the game as well. I look for Jones throwing to continue to be at a very high percentage and for him to pass for a lot of yards OL if Daboll's plays and playing calling keep the Giants on the field and receivers run to beyond the down markers. Six seasons is a small sample size… only Jones Apologists can be this sad. |
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Post by Danke Schoen on Sept 28, 2024 9:50:54 GMT -5
His stats look good on paper, but anyone who watched the game know he is the one holding the team back. That's the thing. The dying species of Jones Apologists just regurgitate a single stat as if that has any merit. The only thing it does is expose the fact that they either don't watch the games or have no clue what they're watching when they do. |
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Post by GameTime on Sept 28, 2024 9:51:30 GMT -5
Jones is not a bad QB he just doesn't have "it". You as well as everyone sees it almost every week. The kid just cannot make the big plays when they are there. How much more open can receivers be on deep passes then they were vs Washington and Dallas. He is blowing those huge chunk plays. No QB makes all those throws but they have to make at least some of them. He has missed on most. Vs Dallas the two biggest issues on offense were the complete lack of a run game and Jones blowing big time opportunities. Even with the poor run game if Jones hit two of those huge plays the NYGs probably get a close win. He hits on 3 or 4 of those they win by a bunch. A few drops were issues too but that happens as well. Its more Jones for sure. . The Giants have played but for games. He hit a long pass the Slayton in the first game. He has thrown well on long passes in his first year. We've played just a few games and the sample is small. He's thrown deep balls on the mark in practice. I know from coaching that if a player has the physical tools it's rather easy to make to correct his throwing motion to get the trajectory, and as well as tell him what to do with his eyes so his throws are on point. So Jones completing deep passes is the least of my Giants worries. I think he'll do quite well on deep passes during the season. He's shown me time and time again he's a clutch player. Did that time and time again in Daboll's first season as he turned almost certain defeats in victories numerous time. Just look at his pass toward the end of the game he fired the ball to Nabers along the sidelines that he dropped. Threaded the needle earier in the game as well. I look for Jones throwing to continue to be at a very high percentage and for him to pass for a lot of yards OL if Daboll's plays and playing calling keep the Giants on the field and receivers run to beyond the down markers. sample size is 5 full seasons and 4 games this season. Jones NOT completing deep passes is the main reason they lost 2 of the tree games!! "He'll do quite well" when? Next week? The week after? The week after that? BTW he is not a clutch player aside from a handful of games in his career. That final pass that Nabers almost made a miraculous catch on? Great pass and almost an impossible catch. Hgh % of 3 and 5 yard dumps. That will get you 5 FGs and no TDs. Bottom line no matter how you slice it miggs is that Jones is just not getting it done often enough when the big plays are there. He needs and should be doing that. He is supposed to be a franchise QB not a developmental QB at this point. |
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Post by Danke Schoen on Sept 28, 2024 9:53:03 GMT -5
I think you numbers are a tad off. 99% of Giants fans think Jones is bad. It's you who's in the tiny minority. Don't say that when Jones would have completed 85 percent of 40 passes but for drop balls. lol... ok. And I would be married to Mila Kunis and Penelope Cruz enjoying threesomes on my yacht in the Mediterranean if I would have just taken that right turn in Albuquerque. |
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Post by Danke Schoen on Sept 28, 2024 9:57:37 GMT -5
The Giants have played but for games. He hit a long pass the Slayton in the first game. He has thrown well on long passes in his first year. We've played just a few games and the sample is small. He's thrown deep balls on the mark in practice. I know from coaching that if a player has the physical tools it's rather easy to make to correct his throwing motion to get the trajectory, and as well as tell him what to do with his eyes so his throws are on point. So Jones completing deep passes is the least of my Giants worries. I think he'll do quite well on deep passes during the season. He's shown me time and time again he's a clutch player. Did that time and time again in Daboll's first season as he turned almost certain defeats in victories numerous time. Just look at his pass toward the end of the game he fired the ball to Nabers along the sidelines that he dropped. Threaded the needle earier in the game as well. I look for Jones throwing to continue to be at a very high percentage and for him to pass for a lot of yards OL if Daboll's plays and playing calling keep the Giants on the field and receivers run to beyond the down markers. is 5 full seasons and 4 games this season. Jones NOT completing deep passes is the main reason they lost 2 of the tree games!! "He'll do quite well" when? Next week? The week after? The week after that? BTW he is not a clutch player aside from a handful of games in his career. That final pass that Nabers almost made a miraculous catch on? Great pass and almost an impossible catch. Hgh % of 3 and 5 yard dumps. That will get you 5 FGs and no TDs. Bottom line no matter how you slice it miggs is that Jones is just not getting it done often enough when the big plays are there. He needs and should be doing that. He is supposed to be a franchise QB not a developmental QB at this point. I know that 51 games is way too small of a sample size, but...    |
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Post by Morehead State on Sept 28, 2024 9:58:34 GMT -5
I think you numbers are a tad off. 99% of Giants fans think Jones is bad. It's you who's in the tiny minority. Don't say that when Jones would have completed 85 percent of 40 passes but for drop balls. But I agree there are a good number of fans who see two or three bad long passes in a game who don't like him. That number would be less so and his misses not so magnified if the Giants had won. That's very tunneled vision in my book. It's bad plays and turnovers that mostly cost a team a win rather than a few missed passes. If the Giants had a QB who missed some of passes Jones completed, the Giants would have punting and scoring even fewer points than they did. But some fans don't get that. Come on. Everything was a dump off. I could have completed those passes. He is unable or unwilling to stretch the field anymore. |
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Post by krappdetector on Sept 28, 2024 10:01:24 GMT -5
INADEQUATE.
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Post by krappdetector on Sept 28, 2024 10:17:19 GMT -5
When he actually threw it downfield...it was horribly underthrown. And EVERY pass is late. He's always late with the ball. The more time he gets, the more time he takes. If the oline gets any better, we'll be able to take a pee at the snap and be back for the throw! |
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Post by Danke Schoen on Sept 28, 2024 10:22:45 GMT -5
When he actually threw it downfield...it was horribly underthrown. And EVERY pass is late. He's always late with the ball. The more time he gets, the more time he takes. If the oline gets any better, we'll be able to take a pee at the snap and be back for the throw! And then take a shit when we see the throw. |
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Post by inconvenientruth on Sept 28, 2024 14:37:33 GMT -5
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Post by Danke Schoen on Sept 28, 2024 15:05:42 GMT -5
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