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Post by krappdetector on Sept 28, 2024 15:13:47 GMT -5
Jones should have been 34-40, or 85 percent, last night with at least 340 yards but for dropped passes. Who else can do that? Do you use mercury as eye drops? I think that of the gang of four that remain in the Church of Jones this one is the High Priest. And I blame cognitive deficiency or drugs... or both. |
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Post by inconvenientruth on Sept 28, 2024 15:18:56 GMT -5
FYI if you change the URL from "x" to "Twitter" it should still embed Man, ive been trying to figure that out, thanks! |
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Post by Danke Schoen on Sept 28, 2024 15:21:30 GMT -5
FYI if you change the URL from "x" to "Twitter" it should still embed Man, ive been trying to figure that out, thanks! That first throw in your posted clip was my gripe from yesterday: He isn't a rookie. Improving every game is a load of horse shit. The guy is in a clean pocket most of the time. Any journeyman QB can make the throws that he is making. Even the ones he is completing are putting the receiver in a position to have to adjust, which limits the YAC. This guy is done. He will be gone after this season, book it.
This has always been a gripe of mine. While some fans are celebrating a completion and the yards, I’m also seeing lost opportunity. Now granted I didn’t see last night’s game but Jones’ inaccuracy can’t merely be measured by comp% Look at this throw from last night. Jones has all day to throw. Nabers doesn’t have a defender in the same zip code. This is a routine and easy as it gets. Yet Jones throws a shit pass that completely neutralizes Nabers weaponry. This is a horrific NFL throw. www.espn.com/video/clip/_/id/41463620 |
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Post by miggs on Sept 28, 2024 16:45:49 GMT -5
The bottom line is the Giants like Jones. You don't have to accept that.
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Post by Danke Schoen on Sept 28, 2024 16:51:52 GMT -5
The bottom line is the Giants like Jones. You don't have to accept that. The bottom line is that’s your speculation. In order to align with your infatuation with a 20-something male. |
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Post by Morehead State on Sept 28, 2024 17:21:51 GMT -5
The bottom line is the Giants like Jones. You don't have to accept that. Then my were they trying to trade up for a QB in the last draft? |
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Post by SG88 on Sept 28, 2024 18:46:30 GMT -5
The bottom line is the Giants like Jones. You don't have to accept that. They like him so much that they tried hard as hell to trade up for his replacement 😄 |
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Post by miggs on Sept 28, 2024 19:29:10 GMT -5
They drafted Nabers. They didn't draft a QB nor traded to move up. in the draft.
The only reason they considered trading up in the draft was his injury history, not his talent level. That's reflected in his contract.
If Jones stays healthy he'll play for the Giants three more years. I think Daboll's the reason for the Giants poor offense. The Giants will continue to play less than stellar till he's gone. He may be terminated before Jones does. Hope so. Until then. I hope you continue your whole heated support for the Giants. But future is not rosy.
One can only hope Daboll figures it out.
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Post by Nite on Sept 29, 2024 8:03:52 GMT -5
Interesting.... Look at the top 4 names lol Daniel Jones is tied with Josh Allen?  Interesante.. Half of the top 8 QBs were throwaways by their 1st or 2nd teams. Show you how poorly player evaluation and coaching in this league is |
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Post by miggs on Sept 29, 2024 21:51:30 GMT -5
Nice that Jones had the highest PFF rating of any Zhiant player in the game.
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Post by DJones19 on Sept 29, 2024 21:55:35 GMT -5
Jones has more passing yards and a higher QBR than Aaron Rodgers after 4 games.
Who is the best QB in New Jersey?
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Post by giantbob71 on Sept 30, 2024 2:48:16 GMT -5
FYI if you change the URL from "x" to "Twitter" it should still embed "Daboll calls a great play"... ...over and over. But the fanbois keep blaming BD, instead of the real problem. I'll defend DJ on the last play...it looks like a designed rollout to his right, which makes me think the play is designed to go deep, rather than throw back across the field to Slayton...but DJ should throw the ball away rather than into double coverage. If Slayton is the 3nd progression, that probably needs to be a rollout to the left, but that might move the LBs that way? If that's really the design of the play, that's 2 throws DJ shouldn't be making. |
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Post by giantbob71 on Sept 30, 2024 2:49:45 GMT -5
Jones has more passing yards and a higher QBR than Aaron Rodgers after 4 games. Who is the best QB in New Jersey? Who's in his "prime" and who's in his 40s. Compre prime Rodgers to this DJ. It would be laughable... |
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Post by southerner on Sept 30, 2024 2:58:42 GMT -5
What Are Your Overall Thoughts On Daniel Jones's Performance vs Cowboys Tonight? How many TDs……aren’t QBs suppose to provide the team with TDs? |
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Post by southerner on Sept 30, 2024 3:09:50 GMT -5
The bottom line is the Giants like Jones. You don't have to accept that. Not anymore they don’t. |
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Post by southerner on Sept 30, 2024 3:15:05 GMT -5
Jones has more passing yards and a higher QBR than Aaron Rodgers after 4 games. Who is the best QB in New Jersey? Pick any NJ High School QB. |
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Post by bluebuddha on Sept 30, 2024 6:48:49 GMT -5
FYI if you change the URL from "x" to "Twitter" it should still embed Man, ive been trying to figure that out, thanks! This was great. Jones just doesnt see things or understand things in his 6th year. Ithink there were posters saying with so much Cover 2 being thrown out there it's hard for DJ to make deep plays. Well here is two examples of cover 1 and DJ failed to deliver. Dabs dials ups Cover 2 beaters and DJ just doesn't understand where to place the ball. That first throw to Nabers is what kids do when they get picked to play QB for the first time on the playground. I was so mad at that throw when I saw it happen. There was another throw to Nabers on a third down where he only picked up 1 yard but if the ball was thrown in front of him it might have gone for a lot more. DJ in my opinion should have been a TE not a QB. He just can't process concepts past backyard football. |
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Post by jaymas on Sept 30, 2024 9:42:14 GMT -5
Daboll and Kafka making Jones look for better than he is? I've seen this film before.
It's almost like the Bills and Chiefs offensive systems are sound and these are talented coaches being severely held back by a guy that can't do basic shit right.
Haven't seen guys so open since Coughlin/Mac 2015 or Kevin Gilbride 2011.
For the love of God keep the offensive coaching staff together and find a different QB as the long term strategy here.
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Post by jaymas on Sept 30, 2024 9:47:57 GMT -5
Timely play calls, guys schemed open constantly or winning their matchups, great pass protection, the leader for offensive rookie of the year, and a defense that hasn't allowed more than 21 pts while it's growing into a new system.
But we average 15 pts per game, wonder what the problem is.
Shoulda signed Sam Darnold, I'd have to imagine Daboll and Kafka could get comparable production to Kevin OConnell considering they are clearly good offensive minds.
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Post by miggs on Sept 30, 2024 12:54:03 GMT -5
For a time I also bought the argument that since Daboll had been successful at Buffalo that he would be good with the Giants. But as 2022 season unfolded I started to complain here about the plays and play calling. It's gotten even worse since then.
Most here blame Jones for two Giants losses, but I see something quite different. I'm with guys like Gruden and Manning who agree with me that Jones is a verh good QB.
I see the Giants as having lost two games due to Daboll, not any player. I don't blame two losses on Nabers dropping two passes on two crucial drives as the reason for our losses nor Singletary committing two turnovers, nor Jones for not completely some long passes as Jones critics do here.
You guys should not downplay Daboll as being insincere saying that Jones is doing what we want by picking up the right receiver and executing. That's a gouge endorsement and in line with what's happening.
Unless money considerations get into the conversation, I don't see Jones going anywhere as long as he continues pass for far more yards than he did in 2022. And he's doing that.
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Post by myronguyton29 on Sept 30, 2024 13:05:38 GMT -5
For a time I also bought the argument that since Daboll had been successful at Buffalo that he would be good with the Giants. But as 2022 season unfolded I started to complain here about the plays and play calling. It's gotten even worse since then. Most here blame Jones for two Giants losses, but I see something quite different. I'm with guys like Gruden and Manning who agree with me that Jones is a verh good QB. I see the Giants as having lost two games due to Daboll, not any player. I don't blame two losses on Nabers dropping two passes on two crucial drives as the reason for our losses nor Singletary committing two turnovers, nor Jones for not completely some long passes as Jones critics do here. You guys should not downplay Daboll as being insincere saying that Jones is doing what we want by picking up the right receiver and executing. That's a gouge endorsement and in line with what's happening. Unless money considerations get into the conversation, I don't see Jones going anywhere as long as he continues pass for far more yards than he did in 2022. And he's doing that. You do realize that yardage a qb accumulates could be attributed to garbage time stats as well right; jus sayin...... so yardage is not the end all be all......... |
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Post by Martin on Sept 30, 2024 13:24:31 GMT -5
Daboll and Kafka making Jones look for better than he is? I've seen this film before. It's almost like the Bills and Chiefs offensive systems are sound and these are talented coaches being severely held back by a guy that can't do basic shit right. Haven't seen guys so open since Coughlin/Mac 2015 or Kevin Gilbride 2011. For the love of God keep the offensive coaching staff together and find a different QB as the long term strategy here.yesss! Very simple fix. The oline is coming together and the weapons are there and next year even more upgrades. Get a QB and everything changes. I am not a fan of getting another GM and HC. Jones is the elephant in the room. |
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Post by miggs on Sept 30, 2024 13:45:28 GMT -5
For a time I also bought the argument that since Daboll had been successful at Buffalo that he would be good with the Giants. But as 2022 season unfolded I started to complain here about the plays and play calling. It's gotten even worse since then. Most here blame Jones for two Giants losses, but I see something quite different. I'm with guys like Gruden and Manning who agree with me that Jones is a verh good QB. I see the Giants as having lost two games due to Daboll, not any player. I don't blame two losses on Nabers dropping two passes on two crucial drives as the reason for our losses nor Singletary committing two turnovers, nor Jones for not completely some long passes as Jones critics do here. You guys should not downplay Daboll as being insincere saying that Jones is doing what we want by picking up the right receiver and executing. That's a gouge endorsement and in line with what's happening. Unless money considerations get into the conversation, I don't see Jones going anywhere as long as he continues pass for far more yards than he did in 2022. And he's doing that. You do realize that yardage a qb accumulates could be attributed to garbage time stats as well right; jus sayin...... so yardage is not the end all be all......... Agreed, but since the Giants play mostly close games I don't see Jones playing in garbage time. He's going to rack up lots of yard as the giants are not running as many runs plays, and Jones has thrown more passes hit a higher percentage of his passes in his last three games than he did in 2022. Jones has a strong and accurate arm and even though he has missed some long passes I'm confident that will happen as well once he gets the vision and mental part down. Lots of great passers have had great careers not throwing deep because they don't have a strong arm. Jones does. I'm just glad that his turnovers are down and he's not doing bad things. I coached a HS player who zhoy a low percentage on three's. It's a different sport but I corrected his deliver and mental approach and he went from averaging 8 points per game to 25 points per game the next season. He scored the most points in the nation that year, scoring 59 points in 32 minutes of a 40 minute game, and shot 17-22 on three's. Sure I'll be accused by some here making this up as that's their nature, but it's true. |
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Post by southerner on Sept 30, 2024 14:10:27 GMT -5
Jones is gone after this season……long gone….he will sign as a backup somewhere.
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Post by jaymas on Sept 30, 2024 14:16:27 GMT -5
For a time I also bought the argument that since Daboll had been successful at Buffalo that he would be good with the Giants. But as 2022 season unfolded I started to complain here about the plays and play calling. It's gotten even worse since then. Most here blame Jones for two Giants losses, but I see something quite different. I'm with guys like Gruden and Manning who agree with me that Jones is a verh good QB. I see the Giants as having lost two games due to Daboll, not any player. I don't blame two losses on Nabers dropping two passes on two crucial drives as the reason for our losses nor Singletary committing two turnovers, nor Jones for not completely some long passes as Jones critics do here. You guys should not downplay Daboll as being insincere saying that Jones is doing what we want by picking up the right receiver and executing. That's a gouge endorsement and in line with what's happening. Unless money considerations get into the conversation, I don't see Jones going anywhere as long as he continues pass for far more yards than he did in 2022. And he's doing that. Only Miggs hahaha. Like 3 different film reviews in here praising the playcalling, your take is "the playcalling is clearly a problem." Never change. |
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Post by myronguyton29 on Sept 30, 2024 15:09:31 GMT -5
You do realize that yardage a qb accumulates could be attributed to garbage time stats as well right; jus sayin...... so yardage is not the end all be all......... Agreed, but since the Giants play mostly close games I don't see Jones playing in garbage time. He's going to rack up lots of yard as the giants are not running as many runs plays, and Jones has thrown more passes hit a higher percentage of his passes in his last three games than he did in 2022. Jones has a strong and accurate arm and even though he has missed some long passes I'm confident that will happen as well once he gets the vision and mental part down. Lots of great passers have had great careers not throwing deep because they don't have a strong arm. Jones does. I'm just glad that his turnovers are down and he's not doing bad things. I coached a HS player who zhoy a low percentage on three's. It's a different sport but I corrected his deliver and mental approach and he went from averaging 8 points per game to 25 points per game the next season. He scored the most points in the nation that year, scoring 59 points in 32 minutes of a 40 minute game, and shot 17-22 on three's. Sure I'll be accused by some here making this up as that's their nature, but it's true. well to your credit Carl Banks did say he's a pretty good b ball player and suggested he go in the gym and just shoot 3's and maybe that'll get his cofidence up hitting some. So hopefully maybe someone echoed that to him and it actually helps........... |
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Post by Danke Schoen on Sept 30, 2024 15:19:25 GMT -5
For a time I also bought the argument that since Daboll had been successful at Buffalo that he would be good with the Giants. But as 2022 season unfolded I started to complain here about the plays and play calling. It's gotten even worse since then. Most here blame Jones for two Giants losses, but I see something quite different. I'm with guys like Gruden and Manning who agree with me that Jones is a verh good QB. I see the Giants as having lost two games due to Daboll, not any player. I don't blame two losses on Nabers dropping two passes on two crucial drives as the reason for our losses nor Singletary committing two turnovers, nor Jones for not completely some long passes as Jones critics do here. You guys should not downplay Daboll as being insincere saying that Jones is doing what we want by picking up the right receiver and executing. That's a gouge endorsement and in line with what's happening. Unless money considerations get into the conversation, I don't see Jones going anywhere as long as he continues pass for far more yards than he did in 2022. And he's doing that.  |
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Post by giantbob71 on Sept 30, 2024 16:55:37 GMT -5
For a time I also bought the argument that since Daboll had been successful at Buffalo that he would be good with the Giants. But as 2022 season unfolded I started to complain here about the plays and play calling. It's gotten even worse since then. Most here blame Jones for two Giants losses, but I see something quite different. I'm with guys like Gruden and Manning who agree with me that Jones is a verh good QB. I see the Giants as having lost two games due to Daboll, not any player. I don't blame two losses on Nabers dropping two passes on two crucial drives as the reason for our losses nor Singletary committing two turnovers, nor Jones for not completely some long passes as Jones critics do here. You guys should not downplay Daboll as being insincere saying that Jones is doing what we want by picking up the right receiver and executing. That's a gouge endorsement and in line with what's happening. Unless money considerations get into the conversation, I don't see Jones going anywhere as long as he continues pass for far more yards than he did in 2022. And he's doing that. Only Miggs hahaha. Like 3 different film reviews in here praising the playcalling, your take is "the playcalling is clearly a problem." Never change. Not to mention, all the positive DJ quotes come from Giants employees or players. |
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