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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2018 20:22:02 GMT -5
Jonathan Stewart is going to end up being a waste of money. I hope I’m wrong and he somehow brings a lot of value that I can’t see but to have him taking snaps from Gallman is just silly. For a RB3 they could have gotten someone cheaper...and probably even better. Stewart looks big, slow, and spaced out at times. Homer sign by Gettleman. Should have signed a CB (Cockrell)
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Post by ThatGuyRich on Aug 17, 2018 20:43:40 GMT -5
I'm not sure I agree with that. Stewart is going to save Barkley as the season wears on. Rookies tend to hit the wall their rookie year around 11-12 games into the season. Stewart will get tough carries. He can still run inside something Gallman has not proven. If Stewart can't do it then we can go to Gallman or so far maybe even Simmons.
Stewart is a fine #2 for this year, I really feel Stewart is effective this season. I think it's going to work.
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Post by OrangeGiant on Aug 17, 2018 21:01:21 GMT -5
Honestly, I totally agree. To me, Barkley and Gallman are 1-2, and I think you could argue Martin is the better choice to keep over Stewart. His best years are behind him. I get he brings experience, but is that worth giving him snaps over Gallman or even Martin?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2018 21:05:46 GMT -5
Honestly, I totally agree. To me, Barkley and Gallman are 1-2, and I think you could argue Martin is the better choice to keep over Stewart. His best years are behind him. I get he brings experience, but is that worth giving him snaps over Gallman or even Martin? im happy to have him on the team as a RB3 but his contract is stupid.
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on Aug 17, 2018 21:20:13 GMT -5
Stewart will have his role to play and a big part of it will be teaching these young backs how to do everything from watch film to taking care of their body's and being ready he will earn his keep.
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Post by Miked1958 on Aug 17, 2018 21:29:51 GMT -5
I'm not sure I agree with that. Stewart is going to save Barkley as the season wears on. Rookies tend to hit the wall their rookie year around 11-12 games into the season. Stewart will get tough carries. He can still run inside something Gallman has not proven. If Stewart can't do it then we can go to Gallman or so far maybe even Simmons. Stewart is a fine #2 for this year, I really feel Stewart is effective this season. I think it's going to work. Martin looked pretty darn good on that 16 yard TD Run
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Post by ThatGuyRich on Aug 17, 2018 21:52:24 GMT -5
I'm not sure I agree with that. Stewart is going to save Barkley as the season wears on. Rookies tend to hit the wall their rookie year around 11-12 games into the season. Stewart will get tough carries. He can still run inside something Gallman has not proven. If Stewart can't do it then we can go to Gallman or so far maybe even Simmons. Stewart is a fine #2 for this year, I really feel Stewart is effective this season. I think it's going to work. Martin looked pretty darn good on that 16 yard TD Run Great ! I haven't watched the game yet, will watch it Sat. morning. Is Simmons hurt ? Maybe Martin moves up to the 4th RB. Were only going to carry 4, right ? Guess depending on ST, possibly carry one on Taxi squad.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2018 22:01:20 GMT -5
I'm not sure I agree with that. Stewart is going to save Barkley as the season wears on. Rookies tend to hit the wall their rookie year around 11-12 games into the season. Stewart will get tough carries. He can still run inside something Gallman has not proven. If Stewart can't do it then we can go to Gallman or so far maybe even Simmons. Stewart is a fine #2 for this year, I really feel Stewart is effective this season. I think it's going to work. Gallman should be the number 2. This isn't even close. Every other back has looked good except Stewart.
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Post by Miked1958 on Aug 17, 2018 22:14:03 GMT -5
Martin looked pretty darn good on that 16 yard TD Run Great ! I haven't watched the game yet, will watch it Sat. morning. Is Simmons hurt ? Maybe Martin moves up to the 4th RB. Were only going to carry 4, right ? Guess depending on ST, possibly carry one on Taxi squad. yes Simmons suffered what looked to be a concussion
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Post by brownelvis54 on Aug 17, 2018 23:55:28 GMT -5
Jonathan Stewart is going to end up being a waste of money. I hope I’m wrong and he somehow brings a lot of value that I can’t see but to have him taking snaps from Gallman is just silly. For a RB3 they could have gotten someone cheaper...and probably even better. Stewart looks big, slow, and spaced out at times. Homer sign by Gettleman. Should have signed a CB (Cockrell) I did not understand the signing....still don't...but time will tell
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Post by JoeBigBlue on Aug 18, 2018 7:28:37 GMT -5
Stewart is going to save Barkley as the season wears on. Rookies tend to hit the wall their rookie year around 11-12 games into the season. Stewart will get tough carries. He can still run inside something Gallman has not proven. If Stewart can't do it then we can go to Gallman or so far maybe even Simmons. This is a good point.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2018 7:45:02 GMT -5
Jonathan Stewart is going to end up being a waste of money. I hope I’m wrong and he somehow brings a lot of value that I can’t see but to have him taking snaps from Gallman is just silly. For a RB3 they could have gotten someone cheaper...and probably even better. Stewart looks big, slow, and spaced out at times. Homer sign by Gettleman. Should have signed a CB (Cockrell) Can't the same be said of Ogletree?? He looks slow and lost in coverage and has a big contract...
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2018 7:56:04 GMT -5
Jonathan Stewart is going to end up being a waste of money. I hope I’m wrong and he somehow brings a lot of value that I can’t see but to have him taking snaps from Gallman is just silly. For a RB3 they could have gotten someone cheaper...and probably even better. Stewart looks big, slow, and spaced out at times. Homer sign by Gettleman. Should have signed a CB (Cockrell) Can't the same be said of Ogletree?? He looks slow and lost in coverage and has a big contract... Ogretree is a starter. Stewart is a bottom of the depth chart guy. He is also very one dimensional. Not a very modern RB. Like I said a good guy and fine to have him on the team and hopefully his value is in ways we are unable to see...but I think it was a wasteful spend.
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Post by TEM on Aug 18, 2018 8:08:39 GMT -5
I'm not sure I agree with that. Stewart is going to save Barkley as the season wears on. Rookies tend to hit the wall their rookie year around 11-12 games into the season. Stewart will get tough carries. He can still run inside something Gallman has not proven. If Stewart can't do it then we can go to Gallman or so far maybe even Simmons. Stewart is a fine #2 for this year, I really feel Stewart is effective this season. I think it's going to work. I agree . You have to look at it as a marathon not a sprint.
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Post by DandyDon on Aug 18, 2018 9:16:43 GMT -5
I'm not sure I agree with that. Stewart is going to save Barkley as the season wears on. Rookies tend to hit the wall their rookie year around 11-12 games into the season. Stewart will get tough carries. He can still run inside something Gallman has not proven. If Stewart can't do it then we can go to Gallman or so far maybe even Simmons. Stewart is a fine #2 for this year, I really feel Stewart is effective this season. I think it's going to work. Gallman should be the number 2. This isn't even close. Every other back has looked good except Stewart. +1
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Post by Morehead State on Aug 18, 2018 10:14:36 GMT -5
Stewart is old and slow. Not sure what Gettleman was thinking. Probably not making this team.
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Post by EliQB10 on Aug 18, 2018 10:27:32 GMT -5
Stewart is old and slow. Not sure what Gettleman was thinking. Probably not making this team. Yeah...don't know what Getty was thinking either?...I could see bringing Stewart here for the vet minimum to mentor the young RBs and to be a good locker room guy but not for the money he got....bad decision
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2018 10:32:24 GMT -5
Can't the same be said of Ogletree?? He looks slow and lost in coverage and has a big contract... Ogretree is a starter. Stewart is a bottom of the depth chart guy. He is also very one dimensional. Not a very modern RB. Like I said a good guy and fine to have him on the team and hopefully his value is in ways we are unable to see...but I think it was a wasteful spend. Once again can't these same things be said for Olgetree?? One dimensional, slow, high paying contract Not sure what penciled in as the starter has anything to do with it...
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Post by Blue Hulk on Aug 18, 2018 11:02:06 GMT -5
Gallman is too good a receiver to sit over stewart. I was really amazed
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Post by BigBlue58 on Aug 18, 2018 11:15:55 GMT -5
Once Stewart gets going in the regular season , you detractors are gonna change your minds! You can’t write a guy off as a bum after just a few preseason touches when he was so clutch as a role player last season. He’s good for depth and he’s no slouch as a blocking back.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2018 11:36:21 GMT -5
Once Stewart gets going in the regular season , you detractors are gonna change your minds! You can’t write a guy off as a bum after just a few preseason touches when he was so clutch as a role player last season. He’s good for depth and he’s no slouch as a blocking back. What about his numbers from last year makes you feel he can run the ball effectively??? Like everyone has been saying great pick up for vets minimum but terrible at the price he was signed for and besides the blocking all the other backs have looked better...
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Post by goldenratio on Aug 18, 2018 11:39:43 GMT -5
Once Stewart gets going in the regular season , you detractors are gonna change your minds! You can’t write a guy off as a bum after just a few preseason touches when he was so clutch as a role player last season. He’s good for depth and he’s no slouch as a blocking back. We all hope you are right and we are wrong...but personally, i just don't see it. i don't even particularly like his highlights from the past 2 years>>>>> On the good side, in interviews, he seems like a top notch dude and wonderful mentor for the young guys, especially barkley. Personally, I just don't see what makes the guy an NFL starter as far as talent goes though. IMO there will be better ways to utilize a roster spot. i'd prefer shane smith than stewart at this point in his career, if you want a role player. 2 cents
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Post by Fletch842 on Aug 18, 2018 11:49:46 GMT -5
One of the few DG moves that I am not so sure of.
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Post by Morehead State on Aug 18, 2018 11:50:54 GMT -5
Once Stewart gets going in the regular season , you detractors are gonna change your minds! You can’t write a guy off as a bum after just a few preseason touches when he was so clutch as a role player last season. He’s good for depth and he’s no slouch as a blocking back. Is he going to get younger and faster by week 1?
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Post by Jomo on Aug 18, 2018 11:52:10 GMT -5
Stewart is old and slow. Not sure what Gettleman was thinking. Probably not making this team. I agree with you. Any idea how much he will really cost us this year if we cut him soon? If he was signed for insurance on the cheap, I get it... We don't need insurance with Gallman's emergence. The kid can also block and catch.
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Post by Byron on Aug 18, 2018 12:12:21 GMT -5
Stewart is old and slow. Not sure what Gettleman was thinking. Probably not making this team. I agree with you. Any idea how much he will really cost us this year if we cut him soon? If he was signed for insurance on the cheap, I get it... We don't need insurance with Gallman's emergence. The kid can also block and catch. I think he's a 3 mil hit if they cut him maybe a little more ...so a couple hundred thousand savings maybe
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Post by Kruunch on Aug 18, 2018 12:44:59 GMT -5
I'm not sure I agree with that. Stewart is going to save Barkley as the season wears on. Rookies tend to hit the wall their rookie year around 11-12 games into the season. Stewart will get tough carries. He can still run inside something Gallman has not proven. If Stewart can't do it then we can go to Gallman or so far maybe even Simmons. Stewart is a fine #2 for this year, I really feel Stewart is effective this season. I think it's going to work. When Barkley hits that wall most likely Stewart will be injured. Gallman Jr should be the second back, he has proven he can run inside the tackles and outside. Stewart is just an old back that our GM has a fascination with from his Carolina days.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2018 12:56:40 GMT -5
Once Stewart gets going in the regular season , you detractors are gonna change your minds! You can’t write a guy off as a bum after just a few preseason touches when he was so clutch as a role player last season. He’s good for depth and he’s no slouch as a blocking back. Who is he going to take carries away from? Gallman? You think he should see the field more than Gallman? Gallman has also been blocking very well. If the Giants hand the backup RB spot to Stewart, DG will be the one forcing that decision on Shurmur. Stewart was a waste signing and no amount of spinning it is going to change that.
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Post by TEM on Aug 18, 2018 13:14:31 GMT -5
Once Stewart gets going in the regular season , you detractors are gonna change your minds! You can’t write a guy off as a bum after just a few preseason touches when he was so clutch as a role player last season. He’s good for depth and he’s no slouch as a blocking back. Who is he going to take carries away from? Gallman? You think he should see the field more than Gallman? Gallman has also been blocking very well. If the Giants hand the backup RB spot to Stewart, DG will be the one forcing that decision on Shurmur. Stewart was a waste signing and no amount of spinning it is going to change that. At the time of the signing. We had Gallman and a Injured Perkins. It was the right move. We needed a back that could handle 15-25 touches a game. There was no guarantee at that point we were going to obtain Barkley. We needed a work horse back . Gallman at the time it was and is still unproven if he can carry the load running the ball. Going back to when the deal was made. It was a logical decision.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2018 13:31:02 GMT -5
Who is he going to take carries away from? Gallman? You think he should see the field more than Gallman? Gallman has also been blocking very well. If the Giants hand the backup RB spot to Stewart, DG will be the one forcing that decision on Shurmur. Stewart was a waste signing and no amount of spinning it is going to change that. At the time of the signing. We had Gallman and a Injured Perkins. It was the right move. We needed a back that could handle 15-25 touches a game. There was no guarantee at that point we were going to obtain Barkley. We needed a work horse back . Gallman at the time it was and is still unproven if he can carry the load running the ball. Going back to when the deal was made. It was a logical decision. I simply don't agree. Gallman played well enough last season behind a suspect line. Stewart was not a good signing. He's been completely invisible.
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