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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2018 7:50:24 GMT -5
DRC may still be brought back after camp. Cockrell wasnt anything special. DRC can't cover. He would be a liability. I don't get the fantasy that he's still a good corner. He's been a free agent for 6 months and hasn't been signed. DRC could cover the year before last. So are you saying he just couldn't cover anymore after that? His skill set fell off in just one season? That's not true. The entire secondary had ups and downs last season, including Jenkins. Surprisingly, Cockrell was the most consistent. The secondary, along with the rest of defense was not up to the task of carrying the offense again. I'm not buying that he can't cover anymore.
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Post by Morehead State on Aug 22, 2018 8:18:15 GMT -5
DRC can't cover. He would be a liability. I don't get the fantasy that he's still a good corner. He's been a free agent for 6 months and hasn't been signed. I tend to agree I was just giving a response to "they let corners go and gave the that money to Stewart". Well corner are much more valuable than RB's. I'll give them that.
having said that though I think both DRC and Stewart are pretty useless these days.
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Post by Morehead State on Aug 22, 2018 8:20:09 GMT -5
DRC can't cover. He would be a liability. I don't get the fantasy that he's still a good corner. He's been a free agent for 6 months and hasn't been signed. DRC could cover the year before last. So are you saying he just couldn't cover anymore after that? His skill set fell off in just one season? That's not true. The entire secondary had ups and downs last season, including Jenkins. Surprisingly, Cockrell was the most consistent. The secondary, along with the rest of defense was not up to the task of carrying the offense again. I'm not buying that he can't cover anymore. That's exactly what I'm saying and obviously the team....and the rest of the NFL seem to agree with me.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2018 8:21:22 GMT -5
DRC could cover the year before last. So are you saying he just couldn't cover anymore after that? His skill set fell off in just one season? That's not true. The entire secondary had ups and downs last season, including Jenkins. Surprisingly, Cockrell was the most consistent. The secondary, along with the rest of defense was not up to the task of carrying the offense again. I'm not buying that he can't cover anymore. That's exactly what I'm saying and obviously the team....and the rest of the NFL seem to agree with me. The team and the rest of the league told you this? They told you that they agree with you?
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Post by Morehead State on Aug 22, 2018 8:36:39 GMT -5
That's exactly what I'm saying and obviously the team....and the rest of the NFL seem to agree with me. The team and the rest of the league told you this? They told you that they agree with you? The Giants cut him and in 6 months no one has signed him.
Since the CB position is so important a team may eventually sign him out of desperation. But we will see.
When a really good CB was released last year like Joe Hayden, he was signed the next day by another team.
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Post by Sarcasman on Aug 22, 2018 9:21:33 GMT -5
Those are your words; I didn’t say that. It was an easy question...
Is everything that's not positive considered whining or just this draft subject?
Was it a question at all? My post was specific to the first selection of the NYG 2018 draft.
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Post by Sarcasman on Aug 22, 2018 9:22:51 GMT -5
DRC may still be brought back after camp. Cockrell wasnt anything special. DRC can't cover. He would be a liability. I don't get the fantasy that he's still a good corner. He's been a free agent for 6 months and hasn't been signed. We’re signing him and Rolle this year. Getting the band back together.
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Post by Morehead State on Aug 22, 2018 9:26:54 GMT -5
DRC can't cover. He would be a liability. I don't get the fantasy that he's still a good corner. He's been a free agent for 6 months and hasn't been signed. We’re signing him and Rolle this year. Getting the band back together. Unfortunated Spider Lockhart passed away...other wise we could really have something.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2018 9:27:05 GMT -5
DRC can't cover. He would be a liability. I don't get the fantasy that he's still a good corner. He's been a free agent for 6 months and hasn't been signed. He is a 32 year old corner . I do not see how he can cover 22- 23 year old with efficacy. So, you're comfortable with 33 year old William Gay covering younger receivers?
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Post by Morehead State on Aug 22, 2018 9:28:09 GMT -5
He is a 32 year old corner . I do not see how he can cover 22- 23 year old with efficacy. So, you're comfortable with 33 year old William Gay covering younger receivers? Not in the least.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2018 9:53:16 GMT -5
He is a 32 year old corner . I do not see how he can cover 22- 23 year old with efficacy. So, you're comfortable with 33 year old William Gay covering younger receivers? Good one!!!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2018 9:57:12 GMT -5
So, you're comfortable with 33 year old William Gay covering younger receivers? Good one!!! Just kind of seems like double talk to me. Did DRC steal some of our board members lunch money and wink at their girlfriends? They make the guy sound totally useless.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2018 10:10:30 GMT -5
Just kind of seems like double talk to me. Did DRC steal some of our board members lunch money and wink at their girlfriends? They make the guy sound totally useless. You got that right!! A lot of posters speak out both sides of their mouths out here..
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Post by Morehead State on Aug 22, 2018 10:18:42 GMT -5
Just kind of seems like double talk to me. Did DRC steal some of our board members lunch money and wink at their girlfriends? They make the guy sound totally useless. You got that right!! A lot of posters speak out both sides of their mouths out here.. I'm very curious as to what this means when it comes to this particular player.
Criticism of a player is akin to "talking out of both sides of my mouth?"
How is this true?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2018 10:27:37 GMT -5
You got that right!! A lot of posters speak out both sides of their mouths out here.. I'm very curious as to what this means when it comes to this particular player.
Criticism of a player is akin to "talking out of both sides of my mouth?"
How is this true?
Nobody said that, but nice try. Read again, please.
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Post by Sarcasman on Aug 22, 2018 10:32:07 GMT -5
Just kind of seems like double talk to me. Did DRC steal some of our board members lunch money and wink at their girlfriends? They make the guy sound totally useless. DRC has excellent ball skills and imo would add value as a nickel or additional safety. imo he is a liability in coverage and has been for years, that doesn’t mean he can’t add value to the secondary.
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Post by Morehead State on Aug 22, 2018 10:33:23 GMT -5
I'm very curious as to what this means when it comes to this particular player.
Criticism of a player is akin to "talking out of both sides of my mouth?"
How is this true?
Nobody said that, but nice try. Read again, please. Then can you explain the comment.... "Yeah...a lot of people talk out of both sides of their mouths here"?
When responding to..."Did DRC steal some of our board members lunch money and wink at their girlfriends? They make the guy sound totally useless."
I'm just not sure what that is supposed to mean.
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Post by Morehead State on Aug 22, 2018 10:34:23 GMT -5
Just kind of seems like double talk to me. Did DRC steal some of our board members lunch money and wink at their girlfriends? They make the guy sound totally useless. DRC has excellent ball skills and imo would add value as a nickel or additional safety. imo he is a liability in coverage and has been for years, that doesn’t mean he can’t add value to the secondary. Ball skills? How many easy pick 6's has he dropped?
The team, who needs CB's badly dumped him. What does this tell you?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2018 10:39:55 GMT -5
Just kind of seems like double talk to me. Did DRC steal some of our board members lunch money and wink at their girlfriends? They make the guy sound totally useless. DRC has excellent ball skills and imo would add value as a nickel or additional safety. imo he is a liability in coverage and has been for years, that doesn’t mean he can’t add value to the secondary. DRC has been a liability in coverage for years? Are we talking about the same DRC? The DRC, who until the dumb decision to move him inside, kept his side of the field clean? The DRC who left the GB playoff game and Rodgers then went to work on the secondary? The DRC who held the secondary together whenever Jenkins was injured? The DRC who shut Dez down repeatedly before Jenkins was signed? The DRC who shut down DeSean Jackson while he was still with the Skins? Where in the world did you get this from? Your comment is a complete fabrication.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2018 10:41:41 GMT -5
DRC has excellent ball skills and imo would add value as a nickel or additional safety. imo he is a liability in coverage and has been for years, that doesn’t mean he can’t add value to the secondary. Ball skills? How many easy pick 6's has he dropped?
The team, who needs CB's badly dumped him. What does this tell you?
It tells me that DG made a bad decision by letting DRC and Cockrell walk. That's what it says.
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Post by Morehead State on Aug 22, 2018 10:55:48 GMT -5
Ball skills? How many easy pick 6's has he dropped?
The team, who needs CB's badly dumped him. What does this tell you?
It tells me that DG made a bad decision by letting DRC and Cockrell walk. That's what it says. OK...then what does it tell you that no team has signed him in 6 months?
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Post by Morehead State on Aug 22, 2018 10:56:45 GMT -5
DRC has excellent ball skills and imo would add value as a nickel or additional safety. imo he is a liability in coverage and has been for years, that doesn’t mean he can’t add value to the secondary. DRC has been a liability in coverage for years? Are we talking about the same DRC? The DRC, who until the dumb decision to move him inside, kept his side of the field clean? The DRC who left the GB playoff game and Rodgers then went to work on the secondary? The DRC who held the secondary together whenever Jenkins was injured? The DRC who shut Dez down repeatedly before Jenkins was signed? The DRC who shut down DeSean Jackson while he was still with the Skins? Where in the world did you get this from? Your comment is a complete fabrication. When Jenkins was hurt the defense was getting torched.
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Post by Sarcasman on Aug 22, 2018 11:29:14 GMT -5
DRC has excellent ball skills and imo would add value as a nickel or additional safety. imo he is a liability in coverage and has been for years, that doesn’t mean he can’t add value to the secondary. DRC has been a liability in coverage for years? Are we talking about the same DRC? The DRC, who until the dumb decision to move him inside, kept his side of the field clean? The DRC who left the GB playoff game and Rodgers then went to work on the secondary? The DRC who held the secondary together whenever Jenkins was injured? The DRC who shut Dez down repeatedly before Jenkins was signed? The DRC who shut down DeSean Jackson while he was still with the Skins? Where in the world did you get this from? Your comment is a complete fabrication. Yes, that’s the DRC I’m talking about.
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Post by trueblueatnyc on Aug 22, 2018 11:30:37 GMT -5
At this point Stewart is just an overpriced insurance policy against Barkley getting hurt. If Barkley misses a couple of games, Stewart will form a committee with Gallman.
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Post by Morehead State on Aug 22, 2018 11:42:23 GMT -5
Nobody said that, but nice try. Read again, please. Then can you explain the comment.... "Yeah...a lot of people talk out of both sides of their mouths here"?
When responding to..."Did DRC steal some of our board members lunch money and wink at their girlfriends? They make the guy sound totally useless."
I'm just not sure what that is supposed to mean.
Didn't think you could answer it.
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Post by TEM on Aug 22, 2018 16:40:08 GMT -5
He is a 32 year old corner . I do not see how he can cover 22- 23 year old with efficacy. So, you're comfortable with 33 year old William Gay covering younger receivers? As a Free safety I have no problem with him . As a corner not comfortable he'll get beat off the line.
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Post by TEM on Aug 22, 2018 16:46:05 GMT -5
Just kind of seems like double talk to me. Did DRC steal some of our board members lunch money and wink at their girlfriends? They make the guy sound totally useless. Who could he cover last season ? He went from 6 ints in 16 to 0 last season His tackling fell off . There are old corners and there are bold corners . There are no old bold corners. You need to be bold to be an effective corner.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2018 23:00:50 GMT -5
Ouch. Rough game for Stewart. No offense to the guy, he's been an excellent NFL RB for a long time, but he looks like the least effective back on this team.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2018 23:10:42 GMT -5
Ouch. Rough game for Stewart. No offense to the guy, he's been an excellent NFL RB for a long time, but he looks like the least effective back on this team. But he’s a Gettleman guy!
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Post by BigBlueRules on Aug 24, 2018 23:52:15 GMT -5
Ouch. Rough game for Stewart. No offense to the guy, he's been an excellent NFL RB for a long time, but he looks like the least effective back on this team. But he’s a Gettleman guy! I wholeheartedly agree. Without Gettleman he would never be in Giants blue. I'd rather kept Darkwa.
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