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Post by TheAussieGiant on Feb 10, 2021 2:36:29 GMT -5
If they get Robinson or Golladay in FA and the best prospects at WR are gone by the time we pick and Parsons is there. I won't lose sleep over it. That said - I'd expect them to go after another WR rd 2 or 3 then. Look they're going to have to do work in both FA and the draft. Weapons for jones is a glaring need, however, so is CB, so is LB, so is the edge - we have no clue what carter or xim can be since they weren't on the field last year, and we still could use help on the oline. Tons of work to be done, I don't care how they get it done, so long as it gets done. If they do this right this offseason - they're a playoff team. If anyone thought Baker raised red flags, Parsons beats you over the head with red flags. What are the red flags on Parsons? All I've heard is he can be immature, how bad is it?
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Post by Fletch842 on Feb 10, 2021 7:06:32 GMT -5
If anyone thought Baker raised red flags, Parsons beats you over the head with red flags. What are the red flags on Parsons? All I've heard is he can be immature, how bad is it? there was a hazing article posted on another thread, says he was involved in some hazing incident that was quite graphic in nature, many would consider it sexual assault.
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Post by GameTime on Feb 10, 2021 8:02:36 GMT -5
What are the red flags on Parsons? All I've heard is he can be immature, how bad is it? there was a hazing article posted on another thread, says he was involved in some hazing incident that was quite graphic in nature, many would consider it sexual assault. I have never experienced hazing or bullying but I have read articles and of course seen shows where they pull stories from real life situations. I am amazed at how many of the male hazing involves some type of acts performed nude or in underwear etc. Its ****ing ridiculous what some of these frats and groups make you do. There is no way I would have ever done the BS they require or participate in it if I continued college. I get they are kids and thats fine but some of the stuff you read is absolutely unacceptable behavior.
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Post by jimmieray on Feb 10, 2021 9:04:16 GMT -5
there was a hazing article posted on another thread, says he was involved in some hazing incident that was quite graphic in nature, many would consider it sexual assault. I have never experienced hazing or bullying but I have read articles and of course seen shows where they pull stories from real life situations. I am amazed at how many of the male hazing involves some type of acts performed nude or in underwear etc. Its ****ing ridiculous what some of these frats and groups make you do. There is no way I would have ever done the BS they require or participate in it if I continued college. I get they are kids and thats fine but some of the stuff you read is absolutely unacceptable behavior. Yep, I experienced this in Boy Scouts. The leaders were not involved, but knew about it. At least my turn didn't involve sticker bushes or a remote outhouse, like my peers got.
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Post by GameTime on Feb 10, 2021 10:14:11 GMT -5
I have never experienced hazing or bullying but I have read articles and of course seen shows where they pull stories from real life situations. I am amazed at how many of the male hazing involves some type of acts performed nude or in underwear etc. Its ****ing ridiculous what some of these frats and groups make you do. There is no way I would have ever done the BS they require or participate in it if I continued college. I get they are kids and thats fine but some of the stuff you read is absolutely unacceptable behavior. Yep, I experienced this in Boy Scouts. The leaders were not involved, but knew about it. At least my turn didn't involve sticker bushes or a remote outhouse, like my peers got. I get the mild hazing etc but some of the outlandish stuff you hear I would tell some one to **** off immediately. Frat aint that important or worth it
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Post by jb456 on Feb 11, 2021 13:59:02 GMT -5
no doubt they have to go offense big time. if they dont then they are dumbasses Meanwhile I'm arguing with multiple idiots on BBV that want to basically go all in on defense and make Jones a game manager. Because of what happened in the Super Bowl Yes like I said this segment of our fan base exists...luckily very few here Ed enables them Because he is one od them Wow. Tom Brady had 4,600 yards, 40 TDs, 12 Ints and had 3TDS in the superbowl. Brady's steller 1st half pigeonholed KC. Game managers don't do that...
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Post by jb456 on Feb 11, 2021 14:00:27 GMT -5
Sign Golladay if the Lions don't Franchise Tag him then go all in on Defense! I would be down for this but the Giants don't have a lot of cap space and need to lock up their own players.
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Post by GameTime on Feb 11, 2021 14:39:36 GMT -5
focusing heavily on D would be ridiculous and a very poor choice of direction
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Post by bizcliz on Feb 11, 2021 15:28:24 GMT -5
Have you seen this team try and score points?
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Post by southerner on Feb 11, 2021 19:18:27 GMT -5
Don’t care as long as the Giants take the best players available.....period. If it is all defense, so be it and likewise if it is all offense. They should ALWAYS draft the best players, and fill in the gaps where they can through free agency and undrafted free agents.
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Post by mikethenygfan on Feb 12, 2021 16:24:26 GMT -5
Get your one addition on defense in free agency Go heavy offense in the draft Playmakers that force opposing defenses to have to defend the entire field and some O line depth early and often in a BPA style.. I knew this would happen with this segment of the fan base Newsflash,you need a well balanced team on both sides of the ball that can win multiple styles of games,have the required firepower to win shoot outs,come back from large defects,the line and players to run it into empty boxes (getting Barkley back helps.) The Bucs have a very versatile and explosive offense themselves that could win multiple ways .. We need this to help.our defense i think the best move is to let Tomlinson go even though hes a great player. We should resign williams and try to sign a pass rusher. Then i would be perfectly fine with a 1st round reciever and some olineman
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Post by mikethenygfan on Feb 12, 2021 16:25:34 GMT -5
not one of our skill players would even sniff the field if they were wearing bucs uniforms this year. you gotta at least try to give Jones a fighting chance. what would the macro strategy be if you only added a 3rd round wr? field position and gano fgs? weapons and OL Mahomes and the Chiefs showed what weapons and no OL can result as too. it didn’t help that the chiefs recievers were dropping the ball when mahomes was playing his ass off
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Post by mikethenygfan on Feb 12, 2021 16:26:43 GMT -5
Sign Golladay if the Lions don't Franchise Tag him then go all in on Defense! he is going to cost to much i would rather draft a wr
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Post by McCherry on Feb 12, 2021 16:28:22 GMT -5
focusing heavily on D would be ridiculous and a very poor choice of direction If we get the 1 or 2 playmakers on offense, that’s all we need. Then they can go all defense the rest of the way for all I care.
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Post by snyder55 on Feb 12, 2021 16:56:08 GMT -5
any Giant fan who watched the team play last season had to see that what our offense was lacking was a dominant #1 WR who can challenge the defense and make the big catch, we haven't had that player since OBJ, the only thing about that is we didn't win with him either, but I think our O line is better than it was at that time and its getting better..
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Post by TCHOF on Feb 12, 2021 17:22:29 GMT -5
No "focus" on either side of ball.
BPA except for QB, RB, S, C (may change based upon FA).
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Post by GameTime on Feb 12, 2021 20:02:14 GMT -5
weapons and OL Mahomes and the Chiefs showed what weapons and no OL can result as too. it didn’t help that the chiefs recievers were dropping the ball when mahomes was playing his ass off yep two off the face mask. But overall he was harassed all day and couldn't get in a groove. Giving the Bucs credit
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Post by GameTime on Feb 12, 2021 20:03:32 GMT -5
focusing heavily on D would be ridiculous and a very poor choice of direction If we get the 1 or 2 playmakers on offense, that’s all we need. Then they can go all defense the rest of the way for all I care. get only one or two play makers and hope they work and stay healthy?. Thy need more than 1 or 2. This off season has to be about the offense way more than the D
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Post by McCherry on Feb 12, 2021 21:07:15 GMT -5
If we get the 1 or 2 playmakers on offense, that’s all we need. Then they can go all defense the rest of the way for all I care. get only one or two play makers and hope they work and stay healthy?. Thy need more than 1 or 2. This off season has to be about the offense way more than the D Why? Shepard and Slayton aren't going anywhere. Maybe not Engram either. We only need one outside WR. Maybe one developmental player in the later rounds. Get a backup RB, we're done.
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Post by TopleyBird on Feb 13, 2021 5:26:06 GMT -5
J.J. Watt would be awesome. I think he probably wants to go to a contender, though
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Post by GameTime on Feb 13, 2021 6:22:57 GMT -5
get only one or two play makers and hope they work and stay healthy?. Thy need more than 1 or 2. This off season has to be about the offense way more than the D Why? Shepard and Slayton aren't going anywhere. Maybe not Engram either. We only need one outside WR. Maybe one developmental player in the later rounds. Get a backup RB, we're done. We need more than that but thats just my opinion. Your view makes it seem like the were 10-6 and just missed the playoffs. I wont count on Engram or Slayton. Is Barkley going to be 100%? How will a developmental player add anything?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2021 7:47:32 GMT -5
Why? Shepard and Slayton aren't going anywhere. Maybe not Engram either. We only need one outside WR. Maybe one developmental player in the later rounds. Get a backup RB, we're done. We need more than that but thats just my opinion. Your view makes it seem like the were 10-6 and just missed the playoffs. I wont count on Engram or Slayton. Is Barkley going to be 100%? How will a developmental player add anything? Still need a better LG and RT now if that ends up being one or both of the 3rd day rookies drafted then great! Add in a WR and you have probably the same amount needed on defense so there's 6 players easily..
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Post by TEM on Feb 13, 2021 7:48:49 GMT -5
No "focus" on either side of ball. BPA except for QB, RB, S, C (may change based upon FA). No doubt.
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Post by GameTime on Feb 13, 2021 7:51:33 GMT -5
We need more than that but thats just my opinion. Your view makes it seem like the were 10-6 and just missed the playoffs. I wont count on Engram or Slayton. Is Barkley going to be 100%? How will a developmental player add anything? Still need a better LG and RT now if that ends up being one or both of the 3rd day rookies drafted then great! Add in a WR and you have probably the same amount needed on defense so there's 6 players easily.. no doubt.....I was just responding with the skill position players. We need better production from the LG and RT positions maybe we get that from Lemeuix and Peart?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2021 7:55:09 GMT -5
Still need a better LG and RT now if that ends up being one or both of the 3rd day rookies drafted then great! Add in a WR and you have probably the same amount needed on defense so there's 6 players easily.. no doubt.....I was just responding with the skill position players. We need better production from the LG and RT positions maybe we get that from Lemeuix and Peart? It's a shame that Hernandez has flopped.. I still think Solder at RT is in play.. I think he will only cost them an extra 4 million if they keep him or he can be the tackle back up..
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Post by GameTime on Feb 13, 2021 7:59:07 GMT -5
no doubt.....I was just responding with the skill position players. We need better production from the LG and RT positions maybe we get that from Lemeuix and Peart? It's a shame that Hernandez has flopped.. I still think Solder at RT is in play.. I think he will only cost them an extra 4 million if they keep him or he can be the tackle back up.. not sure if they are giving up on Hernandez. Its possible the kid can his shit together and rebound.
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Post by McCherry on Feb 13, 2021 10:29:01 GMT -5
Still need a better LG and RT now if that ends up being one or both of the 3rd day rookies drafted then great! Add in a WR and you have probably the same amount needed on defense so there's 6 players easily.. no doubt.....I was just responding with the skill position players. We need better production from the LG and RT positions maybe we get that from Lemeuix and Peart? They weren't perfect but they both showed they can handle the positions. I think we're pretty set on Lemeuix and Peart moving forward.
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Post by snyder55 on Feb 13, 2021 10:40:02 GMT -5
If anyone thought Baker raised red flags, Parsons beats you over the head with red flags. 90 % of these dudes have red flags you jsut never hear about. Most that do have red flags coming into the NFL do just fine.. You can't draft chior boys in this league and expect to win.. Shit happens you take chances . Tons of teams have done that with tons of success. agreed, you can't draft choir boys because there simply aren't enough of them coming out of college any more..
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Post by GameTime on Feb 13, 2021 10:41:00 GMT -5
no doubt.....I was just responding with the skill position players. We need better production from the LG and RT positions maybe we get that from Lemeuix and Peart? They weren't perfect but they both showed they can handle the positions. I think we're pretty set on Lemeuix and Peart moving forward. No they didnt. They will certainly be in the mix but far from "pretty set". Peart had only 150 snaps. That about 2 1/2 games worth of snaps. Lemuiex, while I like him, was confused and overwhelmed much of the time with anything other than straight up blocking assignments.
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Post by snyder55 on Feb 13, 2021 10:45:55 GMT -5
Now you’re splitting hairs. Speaking of not kidding ourselves, those teams you mentioned. You know, they go from bad to good overnight, we don’t fall into that category. We have been bad for sometime now. Normally, teams break down their roster and become relevant fairly quickly. We on the other hand are still trying to figure that out. Only way we catch lightning in a bottle is if 31 teams fall off the face of the earth and we’re the only team standing. Then, I like our chances.. You need to buy into our HC and savior Joe Judge. Last week has nothing to do with this weeks game. Two years ago has nothing to do with next year. How much roster turn over has happened? How many new coaches? We won 6 games this year and were in almost all of them and had a horrible offense. We had a rookie LT, first time C, rotating rookies on the OL, our best player gone for the year, an injured QB, trash at WR, a TE that couldn't catch but was #1 in targets ect. It's not crazy to think this team will score more points next season and with this D if we can score a little more we can win more.
I'm not saying we will turn into a dynasty suddenly but is it that crazy to see us in the playoffs? We have the worst division in football.
Mike, at this point in time we could win our division and still suck, hopefully next year there will be a silver lining..
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