|
Post by Roosevelt on Jun 21, 2021 16:44:01 GMT -5
I ran into Dave this weekend at the grocery store. what did he have to say... Nothing other than exchanging pleasantries. He may not have remembered me it was probably 12 or 13 years ago the last time we had spoken.
I had a Giants shirt on so he might have been a little gun-shy thinking I was going to blast him.
|
|
|
Post by Kruunch on Jun 21, 2021 16:57:01 GMT -5
some people never pass an opportunity to take a cheap shot at Gettleman who in my opinion couldn't have done a better job both in the draft and free agency this year, step back and give the guy a break and remember he inherited a shit show and has done more for this team than the previous GM ever did... It’s easy to take a cheap shot at the cheapskate. Three years, and not one season where we were part of the post season. You’re acting like fans are taking pot shots at Bill Belichick. Gettleman as we all know has been an utter failure here. Fans want to cast blame at what he inherited, Covid, the weather. But, at the end of the day it’s what have you done for me lately? In a result driven business, Dave has given piss poor results. Speaking of Reese. Terrible memory around here. He was part of 6x winning seasons, and two super bowl championships. Now, that’s a resume to be proud of. Not this dreck Gettleman swears by..
|
|
|
Post by ocgiant on Jun 21, 2021 20:46:31 GMT -5
Pretty much what we already know DJ needs to cut down the turnovers, complete passes to his talented receivers and hope the OL has improved as much as the coaches think it has I also believe DJ knows the situation and he will handle the pressure to perform in a positive way and do enough to have a winning season If not, then with two first round draft picks, the Giants will be getting a new QB it could be that was the reason for making the deal for a 1st round pick so we could be in position to bring in DJs replacement... I am rooting for DJ he has the work ethic, smarts, leadership you'd look for in a QB, I really would like to see him improve this season like a Josh Allen did this past one If not, then that trade for the additional first rounder not only looks even smarter now but becomes very important to the Giants in finding their franchise QB!
|
|
|
Post by TCHOF on Jun 22, 2021 6:11:56 GMT -5
some people never pass an opportunity to take a cheap shot at Gettleman who in my opinion couldn't have done a better job both in the draft and free agency this year, step back and give the guy a break and remember he inherited a shit show and has done more for this team than the previous GM ever did... Dude?
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Jun 22, 2021 9:48:47 GMT -5
some people never pass an opportunity to take a cheap shot at Gettleman who in my opinion couldn't have done a better job both in the draft and free agency this year, step back and give the guy a break and remember he inherited a shit show and has done more for this team than the previous GM ever did... That would be losing.. He's done a wonderful time with that!! I really hope you were being sarcastic!
|
|
|
Post by snyder55 on Jun 22, 2021 10:00:36 GMT -5
some people never pass an opportunity to take a cheap shot at Gettleman who in my opinion couldn't have done a better job both in the draft and free agency this year, step back and give the guy a break and remember he inherited a shit show and has done more for this team than the previous GM ever did... Dude? I guess when it comes to Gettleman you either like him or hate him, no middle ground here...
|
|
|
Post by TCHOF on Jun 22, 2021 10:25:18 GMT -5
I guess when it comes to Gettleman you either like him or hate him, no middle ground here... Either way, though, to say that he has done more than Reese is a little nutty, no?
|
|
|
Post by Fletch842 on Jun 22, 2021 10:42:57 GMT -5
I guess when it comes to Gettleman you either like him or hate him, no middle ground here... Either way, though, to say that he has done more than Reese is a little nutty, no? and I think there are plenty around here that recognize his good and poor moves, to say there is no middle ground is a touch insulting, sorry, I'm being sensitive today!!
|
|
|
Post by Nick6475 on Jun 22, 2021 10:54:34 GMT -5
I think the dislike of Gettleman comes from the decision the Giants made when looking for a new GM. They chose DG which was the conservative and most predictable approach. Once Gettleman was in the picture it was pretty obvious he would end up as GM and for me, it was a "blah" move. I also have some conspiracy theories that he was the only one that would agree to stick with Eli for another year so that was why he was hired, but either way, his hiring was viewed as more of the same and at the time the same was not very good.
|
|
|
Post by jmike on Jun 22, 2021 10:58:45 GMT -5
I guess when it comes to Gettleman you either like him or hate him, no middle ground here... There is plenty of middle ground. Just seems very few who wish to occupy it.
|
|
|
Post by jmike on Jun 22, 2021 10:59:52 GMT -5
I guess when it comes to Gettleman you either like him or hate him, no middle ground here... Either way, though, to say that he has done more than Reese is a little nutty, no? Well Reese has definitely done more in both regards. More things to help this team and more things to destroy it.
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Jun 22, 2021 11:00:44 GMT -5
Either way, though, to say that he has done more than Reese is a little nutty, no? and I think there are plenty around here that recognize his good and poor moves, to say there is no middle ground is a touch insulting, sorry, I'm being sensitive today!! Couldn't agree more.. This team stinks and the record is the proof but to claim that fans out here don't recognize the good decisions on those rare occasions is completely false.. Getty is in a profession where results are expected! It's not an easy job to do and he does get beat up sometimes prematurely when evaluating some the moves but until the results are favorable he should be regarded as a failure..
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Jun 22, 2021 11:04:24 GMT -5
I guess when it comes to Gettleman you either like him or hate him, no middle ground here... There is plenty of middle ground. Just seems very few who wish to occupy it. Where is the middle ground when the record is 12-36? Honestly don't see how anyone could think favorable of the job he's done at this point.. Good luck with that!
|
|
|
Post by jmike on Jun 22, 2021 11:10:39 GMT -5
There is plenty of middle ground. Just seems very few who wish to occupy it. Where is the middle ground when the record is 12-36? Honestly don't see how anyone could think favorable of the job he's done at this point.. Good luck with that! Which is why you don't wish to occupy the middle ground, you can't even see it.
|
|
|
Post by Kruunch on Jun 22, 2021 11:17:44 GMT -5
It’s easy to take a cheap shot at the cheapskate. Three years, and not one season where we were part of the post season. You’re acting like fans are taking pot shots at Bill Belichick. Gettleman as we all know has been an utter failure here. Fans want to cast blame at what he inherited, Covid, the weather. But, at the end of the day it’s what have you done for me lately? In a result driven business, Dave has given piss poor results. Speaking of Reese. Terrible memory around here. He was part of 6x winning seasons, and two super bowl championships. Now, that’s a resume to be proud of. Not this dreck Gettleman swears by.. Dave's resume........................ Dave Gettleman New York Giants Position: Senior vice president and general manager Personal information Born: February 21, 1951 (age 70) Boston, Massachusetts Career information High school: Boston Latin College: Springfield Career history As an executive: Buffalo Bills (1986) Scouting intern Buffalo Bills (1987–1993) Scout Denver Broncos (1994–1997) Scout New York Giants (1998) Scout New York Giants (1999–2011) Director of pro personnel New York Giants (2012) Senior pro personnel analyst Carolina Panthers (2013–2017) General manager New York Giants (2018–present) General manager Career highlights and awards As executive 3× Super Bowl champion (XXXII, XLII, XLVI) Congrats, you copied his Wikipedia page. I know all about what he has done in his career. What has he done here? Besides make a fan base forget what winning feels like. Dave Gettleman GM tenure for the NY Giants. 15-33 No playoff appearances His resume as a General Manager for the NY Giants should be used as a dartboard.
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Jun 22, 2021 11:19:37 GMT -5
Where is the middle ground when the record is 12-36? Honestly don't see how anyone could think favorable of the job he's done at this point.. Good luck with that! Which is why you don't wish to occupy the middle ground, you can't even see it. You are correct I don't want to be a middle ground type of person when it comes to sports at this level.. This team hasn't been close to be middle ground for a handful of years and if they do become better I expect something much better than the middle which is the goal.. Like I said have at it enjoying this middle ground you cherish! LOL
|
|
|
Post by jmike on Jun 22, 2021 11:50:30 GMT -5
Which is why you don't wish to occupy the middle ground, you can't even see it. You are correct I don't want to be a middle ground type of person when it comes to sports at this level.. This team hasn't been close to be middle ground for a handful of years and if they do become better I expect something much better than the middle which is the goal.. Like I said have at it enjoying this middle ground you cherish! LOL Middle ground is for reasonable people. The extremes are for extremists. You quite clearly have no interest in being reasonable.
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Jun 22, 2021 11:54:12 GMT -5
You are correct I don't want to be a middle ground type of person when it comes to SPORTS at this level.. This team hasn't been close to be middle ground for a handful of years and if they do become better I expect something much better than the middle which is the goal.. Like I said have at it enjoying this middle ground you cherish! LOL Middle ground is for reasonable people. The extremes are for extremists. You quite clearly have no interest in being reasonable. Like I said when it comes to SPORTS at this level I am an extremist.. Why bother if you aren't in it to win? You are having a hard time following the discussions I'm involved in today.. You can do better!!
|
|
|
Post by jmike on Jun 22, 2021 12:13:24 GMT -5
Middle ground is for reasonable people. The extremes are for extremists. You quite clearly have no interest in being reasonable. Like I said when it comes to SPORTS at this level I am an extremist.. Why bother if you aren't in it to win? You are having a hard time following the discussions I'm involved in today.. You can do better!! Yes, I do have a hard time following nonsense. Discussions with you tend to be a waste of time due to the afore mentioned unreasonable thought process you possess. Unfortunately I don't think you can do better, so carry on.
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Jun 22, 2021 12:24:39 GMT -5
Like I said when it comes to SPORTS at this level I am an extremist.. Why bother if you aren't in it to win? You are having a hard time following the discussions I'm involved in today.. You can do better!! Yes, I do have a hard time following nonsense. Discussions with you tend to be a waste of time due to the afore mentioned unreasonable thought process you possess. Unfortunately I don't think you can do better, so carry on. Now that you had to become nasty I hope you feel better!!
|
|
|
Post by jmike on Jun 22, 2021 12:29:41 GMT -5
Yes, I do have a hard time following nonsense. Discussions with you tend to be a waste of time due to the afore mentioned unreasonable thought process you possess. Unfortunately I don't think you can do better, so carry on. Now that you had to become nasty I hope you feel better!! That wasn't nasty and I was feeling fine prior.
|
|
|
Post by vinnie on Jun 22, 2021 14:32:38 GMT -5
some people never pass an opportunity to take a cheap shot at Gettleman who in my opinion couldn't have done a better job both in the draft and free agency this year, step back and give the guy a break and remember he inherited a shit show and has done more for this team than the previous GM ever did... Dude? Lol, I almost replied to that statement but didn’t want to open that can. I’ll chalk it up to alcohol, drugs or low blood sugar.
|
|
|
Post by snyder55 on Jun 22, 2021 15:15:08 GMT -5
some people never pass an opportunity to take a cheap shot at Gettleman who in my opinion couldn't have done a better job both in the draft and free agency this year, step back and give the guy a break and remember he inherited a shit show and has done more for this team than the previous GM ever did... Dude? I know you don't care for Gettleman but I still hold out for some hope..
|
|
|
Post by snyder55 on Jun 22, 2021 15:16:06 GMT -5
I guess when it comes to Gettleman you either like him or hate him, no middle ground here... Either way, though, to say that he has done more than Reese is a little nutty, no? not if you disliked Reese as much as I did...
|
|
ox1
Special Teams
Posts: 138
|
Post by ox1 on Jun 22, 2021 20:18:07 GMT -5
In the end Jones has all the traits a QB needs but now it is time to get down to nitty gritty for him. He needs to lead this team and clean up his game he has the accuracy and arm is an above average athlete great work ethic also these are all mandatory traits for success. Now we need to the mental processing the things from the neck up is what is gonna make or break his career as a starter thesis are also mandatory to be a frannchise QB. Yup. With all the complaints of the O-line. Does Jones make an over aggressive defense, that taxes any O-line, pay for that over aggressiveness? The opposite D can give up some big plays, even some points trying to get to him. They know they are getting the ball back at some point in the game where they shouldn't have. Until Jones becomes savvy and makes D's pay, not much will change.
|
|
|
Post by McCherry on Jun 22, 2021 20:28:28 GMT -5
Either way, though, to say that he has done more than Reese is a little nutty, no? not if you disliked Reese as much as I did... What's there to like?
|
|
|
Post by idkaname on Jun 22, 2021 20:35:31 GMT -5
not if you disliked Reese as much as I did... What's there to like? 🏆 🏆
|
|
|
Post by BigBlueDog42 on Jun 22, 2021 20:52:27 GMT -5
In the end Jones has all the traits a QB needs but now it is time to get down to nitty gritty for him. He needs to lead this team and clean up his game he has the accuracy and arm is an above average athlete great work ethic also these are all mandatory traits for success. Now we need to the mental processing the things from the neck up is what is gonna make or break his career as a starter thesis are also mandatory to be a frannchise QB. Yup. With all the complaints of the O-line. Does Jones make an over aggressive defense, that taxes any O-line, pay for that over aggressiveness? The opposite D can give up some big plays, even some points trying to get to him. They know they are getting the ball back at some point in the game where they shouldn't have. Until Jones becomes savvy and makes D's pay, not much will change. this is the first time since he has been here where they should have answers for anything that comes at them if he can't make teams pay then the Giants have their answer.
|
|
|
Post by BigBlueDog42 on Jun 22, 2021 21:07:14 GMT -5
some people never pass an opportunity to take a cheap shot at Gettleman who in my opinion couldn't have done a better job both in the draft and free agency this year, step back and give the guy a break and remember he inherited a shit show and has done more for this team than the previous GM ever did... It’s easy to take a cheap shot at the cheapskate. Three years, and not one season where we were part of the post season. You’re acting like fans are taking pot shots at Bill Belichick. Gettleman as we all know has been an utter failure here. Fans want to cast blame at what he inherited, Covid, the weather. But, at the end of the day it’s what have you done for me lately? In a result driven business, Dave has given piss poor results. Speaking of Reese. Terrible memory around here. He was part of 6x winning seasons, and two super bowl championships. Now, that’s a resume to be proud of. Not this dreck Gettleman swears by.. Did Reese draft Tuck Osi Trade for Eli Draft Snee Diehl find Ohara Draft Brandon Jacobs Amani Toomer Corey Webester to many to name did he run pro personnel when PLex was signed McKenzie or Pierce Kawika Mitchel Boley Canty Rolle. All I'm saying is Gettlemen had as much to do with the Giants past success as Reese. Reese took over a Giants team young and on the rise accorsi left the team in good cap standing with stocked roster. Gettlemen was not afforded any of that nothing even close, these 2 situations are not even comparable
|
|
|
Post by Kruunch on Jun 22, 2021 21:13:45 GMT -5
It’s easy to take a cheap shot at the cheapskate. Three years, and not one season where we were part of the post season. You’re acting like fans are taking pot shots at Bill Belichick. Gettleman as we all know has been an utter failure here. Fans want to cast blame at what he inherited, Covid, the weather. But, at the end of the day it’s what have you done for me lately? In a result driven business, Dave has given piss poor results. Speaking of Reese. Terrible memory around here. He was part of 6x winning seasons, and two super bowl championships. Now, that’s a resume to be proud of. Not this dreck Gettleman swears by.. Did Reese draft Tuck Osi Trade for Eli Draft Snee Diehl find Ohara Draft Brandon Jacobs Amani Toomer Corey Webester to many to name did he run pro personnel when PLex was signed McKenzie or Pierce Kawika Mitchel Boley Canty Rolle. All I'm saying is Gettlemen had as much to do with the Giants past success as Reese. Reese took over a Giants team young and on the rise accorsi left the team in good cap standing with stocked roster. Gettlemen was not afforded any of that nothing even close, these 2 situations are not even comparable No, Ernie did. What’s your point? When Accorsi stepped down, who did he recommend? I’ll give you a hint. It wasn’t Dave..
|
|