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Post by Martin on May 20, 2021 20:34:33 GMT -5
Where does Barkley have to be with his play (stats or other) before you are ready to write his check of more than $ 16 mil per year? Total Yds ? Improved blocking? Catches ? Moving the chains consistently? Who here on this board has their criteria for signing Barkley to a monster contract because that's what he will be looking for. More than 16 + mil per year is a lot of money that can be spent elsewhere but I digress. What is your criteria and thoughts on this.
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Post by giantlegacy on May 20, 2021 20:55:31 GMT -5
You just gave the entire board a heart attack with your thread title
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Post by giantlegacy on May 20, 2021 20:57:27 GMT -5
As far as an answer He has to look like the unicorn playmaker he hinted he was going to be in his rookie year
2500 total yards and part of a high octane machine that scores a lot of points
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Post by McCherry on May 20, 2021 20:58:33 GMT -5
Prove it first... Then, no.
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Post by DandyDon on May 20, 2021 21:05:22 GMT -5
Where does Barkley have to be with his play (stats or other) before you are ready to write his check of more than $ 16 mil per year? Total Yds ? Improved blocking? Catches ? Moving the chains consistently? Who here on this board has their criteria for signing Barkley to a monster contract because that's what he will be looking for. More than 16 + mil per year is a lot of money that can be spent elsewhere but I digress. What is your criteria and thoughts on this. Bro, we dont even have to pick up his 5th year yet. Calm down.
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Post by SemperFi on May 20, 2021 21:18:35 GMT -5
Prove it first... Then, no. My take is that if there is anyone on this team that has to "prove it" it is Barkley. I have a far better feeling about DJ coming thru for us this year. Barkley, at a bare minimum, has to show us that he is at least as good, in all aspects, as the guy who replaced him last year when he went down. He must be a 3 down back. Schemes will help his reluctance to mix it up in north/south plays and a better line will help disguise his 2nd rate blocking.
I really hope he proves me wrong but I think he is our biggest question mark.
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Post by thetruth on May 20, 2021 23:03:52 GMT -5
Where does Barkley have to be with his play (stats or other) before you are ready to write his check of more than $ 16 mil per year? Total Yds ? Improved blocking? Catches ? Moving the chains consistently? Who here on this board has their criteria for signing Barkley to a monster contract because that's what he will be looking for. More than 16 + mil per year is a lot of money that can be spent elsewhere but I digress. What is your criteria and thoughts on this. My question is, regardless of what Barkley does next year. When is it ever a good idea to sign a RB to a massive contract?
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Post by giantlegacy on May 20, 2021 23:28:06 GMT -5
Where does Barkley have to be with his play (stats or other) before you are ready to write his check of more than $ 16 mil per year? Total Yds ? Improved blocking? Catches ? Moving the chains consistently? Who here on this board has their criteria for signing Barkley to a monster contract because that's what he will be looking for. More than 16 + mil per year is a lot of money that can be spent elsewhere but I digress. What is your criteria and thoughts on this. My question is, regardless of what Barkley does next year. When is it ever a good idea to sign a RB to a massive contract? Depends on the baci Henry got his money and not only did he lean himself out a bit but had his best year as a pro. Now granted he didn't have to be 75/ of the offense last year as they opened up the passing game (which also helped opem tbe run up a bit )
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Post by Roswell on May 21, 2021 0:14:50 GMT -5
I don’t know guys. When Barkley is healthy he’s worth every penny.
So if he’s healthy for the next two years, then he deserves to be paid commensurate with his contributions on his next contract.
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Post by moecoastie on May 21, 2021 3:07:17 GMT -5
health is the only concern prior to his next contract.
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Post by GameTime on May 21, 2021 5:20:43 GMT -5
we cant assume his health so even he has a monster year I say let him go. Two years ago my answer would be different.
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Post by southerner on May 21, 2021 5:23:34 GMT -5
Where does Barkley have to be with his play (stats or other) before you are ready to write his check of more than $ 16 mil per year? Total Yds ? Improved blocking? Catches ? Moving the chains consistently? Who here on this board has their criteria for signing Barkley to a monster contract because that's what he will be looking for. More than 16 + mil per year is a lot of money that can be spent elsewhere but I digress. What is your criteria and thoughts on this. If he can’t pass block they will not resign him. I don’t think they will.....just apply the franchise tag one or two times then let him go. If he doesn’t pass block any better than he did before let him go after the 2021 season. Right now Barkley is a player who looks like Tarzan but plays like Jane.
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Post by JoeBigBlue on May 21, 2021 6:24:01 GMT -5
Can't answer the question for another two years.
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Post by Deleted on May 21, 2021 6:42:50 GMT -5
So much will change from now until it's time to sign him.. The cap number could rebound giving teams a lot of space and it would be nice if he plays like a 2nd pick and helps them win a super bowl..
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Post by bavarobeast on May 21, 2021 6:46:23 GMT -5
I’m not a Barkley fan. He hasn’t come close to matching the hype.
He’s been underwhelming and over paid.
Looking forward to him being a former Giant.
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Post by Fletch842 on May 21, 2021 6:49:46 GMT -5
I'm not sure its prudent to invest that kind of cap space on the RB position in this day and age, even if Barkley looks completely recovered. Like wide receivers, to me there is so much talent coming out of colleges every year, it's a better balance to cycle them, or resign at a more reasonable price.
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Post by giantlegacy on May 21, 2021 7:15:27 GMT -5
I'm not sure its prudent to invest that kind of cap space on the RB position in this day and age, even if Barkley looks completely recovered. Like wide receivers, to me there is so much talent coming out of colleges every year, it's a better balance to cycle them, or resign at a more reasonable price. IIR Henry didn't get signed to a backbreaking type deal like Zeke did Again we are 2 years away from making this decision We already paid way more than we had to for a number 1 WR because Gettleman neglected the position since he became GM so already we are headed down the wrong path for allocation of assets for playmakers
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on May 21, 2021 7:39:33 GMT -5
Where does Barkley have to be with his play (stats or other) before you are ready to write his check of more than $ 16 mil per year? Total Yds ? Improved blocking? Catches ? Moving the chains consistently? Who here on this board has their criteria for signing Barkley to a monster contract because that's what he will be looking for. More than 16 + mil per year is a lot of money that can be spent elsewhere but I digress. What is your criteria and thoughts on this. Highest paid means nothing anymore the next round of free agency someone else will take the crown it is more of a timing thing. As far as Barkely goes he will have to stay healthy and prove he still has that human joy stick at 235 pounds to him. Or he will play here or some place else at less I'm not saying like a bargain but he will get 9 maybe 10 a year if he is slow getting back all the way this dude is a freak when healthy with the right OC and decent OL he can dominate the league.
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Post by BigBlueDog42 on May 21, 2021 7:48:00 GMT -5
I don’t know guys. When Barkley is healthy he’s worth every penny. So if he’s healthy for the next two years, then he deserves to be paid commensurate with his contributions on his next contract. 2 things have to happen to squeeze the most of your stud RB one is keeping his snaps under control when winning give a guy like Booker more, keep them all healthy and rested the the way we did with BJ Bradshaw and Ward when crunch time comes the lead dog takes over. #2 they need to make sure they are blocking better for DJ and all the backs.
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Post by Jomo on May 21, 2021 7:56:46 GMT -5
You just gave the entire board a heart attack with your thread title Ha! Martin made my heart stop. I took this in a different direction. "highest paid in HISTORY" is really off the rails before it starts. It is irrelevant. The highest paid EVER is the next great RB who signs his second contract. "NFL history", in theses case, lasts a year or two at most. Remember when Eli was the "highest paid" QB ever? That lasted about a year.
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Post by imgrate on May 21, 2021 8:00:02 GMT -5
My question is, regardless of what Barkley does next year. When is it ever a good idea to sign a RB to a massive contract? Depends on the baci Henry got his money and not only did he lean himself out a bit but had his best year as a pro. Now granted he didn't have to be 75/ of the offense last year as they opened up the passing game (which also helped opem tbe run up a bit ) As good as Henry played. Its still early in the contract. I can't think of a back that recently got paid and was worth the big contract - mostly due to injuries. Gurley, Shady McCoy, Chris Johnson, Leveon Bell, Arian Foster, Davonte Freeman, Zeke Elliot, Jamaal Charles, even McCaffrey got hurt so we'll see how that goes.
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Post by ocgiant on May 21, 2021 8:02:32 GMT -5
No worries, Giants will just use one of their first round picks next year and select a RB.
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Post by jb456 on May 21, 2021 9:28:36 GMT -5
Where does Barkley have to be with his play (stats or other) before you are ready to write his check of more than $ 16 mil per year? Total Yds ? Improved blocking? Catches ? Moving the chains consistently? Who here on this board has their criteria for signing Barkley to a monster contract because that's what he will be looking for. More than 16 + mil per year is a lot of money that can be spent elsewhere but I digress. What is your criteria and thoughts on this. Bro, we dont even have to pick up his 5th year yet. Calm down. It was picked up in April. www.nj.com/giants/2021/04/giants-pick-up-saquon-barkleys-5th-year-option-for-2022-heres-how-much-itll-cost.html#:~:text=The%20Giants%20picked%20up%20the,the%20face%20of%20the%20franchise. This is a tough situation but I don't think he has even earned that option at this point. To much injury, can't pass block and hasn't been really effective running between the tackles.
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Post by jb456 on May 21, 2021 9:30:24 GMT -5
Where does Barkley have to be with his play (stats or other) before you are ready to write his check of more than $ 16 mil per year? Total Yds ? Improved blocking? Catches ? Moving the chains consistently? Who here on this board has their criteria for signing Barkley to a monster contract because that's what he will be looking for. More than 16 + mil per year is a lot of money that can be spent elsewhere but I digress. What is your criteria and thoughts on this. Dude, not cool....
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Post by Martin on May 21, 2021 9:48:59 GMT -5
You just gave the entire board a heart attack with your thread title I didn't mean it that way but yeah after looking at it I did go over the top a little.
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Post by Martin on May 21, 2021 9:51:14 GMT -5
Where does Barkley have to be with his play (stats or other) before you are ready to write his check of more than $ 16 mil per year? Total Yds ? Improved blocking? Catches ? Moving the chains consistently? Who here on this board has their criteria for signing Barkley to a monster contract because that's what he will be looking for. More than 16 + mil per year is a lot of money that can be spent elsewhere but I digress. What is your criteria and thoughts on this. Bro, we dont even have to pick up his 5th year yet. Calm down. I haven't hit the therapist couch yet so I'm fine.
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Post by Deleted on May 21, 2021 9:55:29 GMT -5
Where does Barkley have to be with his play (stats or other) before you are ready to write his check of more than $ 16 mil per year? Total Yds ? Improved blocking? Catches ? Moving the chains consistently? Who here on this board has their criteria for signing Barkley to a monster contract because that's what he will be looking for. More than 16 + mil per year is a lot of money that can be spent elsewhere but I digress. What is your criteria and thoughts on this. My question is, regardless of what Barkley does next year. When is it ever a good idea to sign a RB to a massive contract? In today's NFL...never
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Post by Martin on May 21, 2021 10:05:47 GMT -5
Where does Barkley have to be with his play (stats or other) before you are ready to write his check of more than $ 16 mil per year? Total Yds ? Improved blocking? Catches ? Moving the chains consistently? Who here on this board has their criteria for signing Barkley to a monster contract because that's what he will be looking for. More than 16 + mil per year is a lot of money that can be spent elsewhere but I digress. What is your criteria and thoughts on this. If he can’t pass block they will not resign him. I don’t think they will.....just apply the franchise tag one or two times then let him go. If he doesn’t pass block any better than he did before let him go after the 2021 season. Right now Barkley is a player who looks like Tarzan but plays like Jane. I agree 100% about the pass blocking and it's huge! I can't imagine B. Parcells and B. Belichick having a RB who can't block. Fans are gonna talk about SB speed, power etc... but the Giants Oline is the weak link added with D Jones turnovers and then you put in a RB who can't pick up the blitz??? WTF !!! No way, put the money in the oline get 3 RB's by committee and now you don't put all your eggs in one basket on the field and with the budget.
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Post by Deleted on May 21, 2021 10:14:16 GMT -5
If he can’t pass block they will not resign him. I don’t think they will.....just apply the franchise tag one or two times then let him go. If he doesn’t pass block any better than he did before let him go after the 2021 season. Right now Barkley is a player who looks like Tarzan but plays like Jane. I agree 100% about the pass blocking and it's huge! I can't imagine B. Parcells and B. Belichick having a RB who can't block. Fans are gonna talk about SB speed, power etc... but the Giants Oline is the weak link added with D Jones turnovers and then you put in a RB who can't pick up the blitz??? WTF !!! No way, put the money in the oline get 3 RB's by committee and now you don't put all your eggs in one basket on the field and with the budget. Truer words have never been spoken... Build the OL, and stop listening to the fantasy playing fans...running backs are media creations for sports center. Play calling and the OL creates these overpaid players in a position of little value
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Post by DandyDon on May 21, 2021 10:19:40 GMT -5
Didn't realize that, thanks. A bit surprising given his injury, but I guess there's a timing reason.
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