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Post by Kruunch on Sept 24, 2021 19:47:06 GMT -5
Parsons could be that next great player on defense. We had him in our sights, and didn’t pull the trigger. It’s the same thing about Ray Lewis. That’s the point, we could have missed out on a player we now have to face 2x a year for the next decade. You miss on players always, I get that. But, when Micah Parsons is balling, and Toney is falling. You take notice. You and the Mike’s refused to see the issue. A draft pick as valuable as it is, is just a pick. He’s not on the field this Sunday. He’s not game planning for future opponents. He’s a frat parties and having sex with women he doesn’t even know. Yet you fail to use that same logic on the pick we acquired. I can't stop laughing Parsons plays now, that draft pick isn’t even in the league yet. All that number crunching has crunched your brain.
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Post by ThatGuyRich on Sept 24, 2021 19:57:39 GMT -5
No kidding. Point was, we missed on him. Who cares about those other teams? It's not like the Giants are the only team that made that mistake. Sure would have been nice if they had Baltimore's insight. They didn't and so didn't virtually the entire NFL. And Ray Lewis was their 2nd 1st rd pick. Jonathon Ogden was their 1st pick with the 4th pick. Lewis was picked around the 25th pick. So 2/3rds of the league passed on Ray Lewis.
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Post by TEM on Sept 24, 2021 19:58:49 GMT -5
Are you really trying to use the logic that all you need is QB and HC to win trophies? The rest of the team, coaches and FO staff are not essential. That is what it reads like. How does every owner not see your logic? This post you just made makes the Ray Lewis comment even more puzzling. If it is just the HC and the QB. So you don't need a pass rusher ? Any ole guy will do. A lousy GM can't produce a competent team for the HC and QB . Right!!!! The laughs keep coming Damn, you’re dense. Stick to your numbers and your analytics. This is way over your head. Never, and I’ll repeat that to the fans in the back. Never, did I say it’s just a head coach and quarterback. It helps when two of three of the most important facets of an NFL organization are great. The Patriots had all three. Tom Brady, Bill Belichick, and Robert Kraft. All the Patriots had to do is fill the rest of the puzzle out. They already were already set with their cornerstones. You talk so loud for Belichicks managerial prowess. But, couldn’t name a player without looking him up. Again, for the millionth time. I, never said he was terrible. You, keep focusing on that. I would too, if I had nothing worth mentioning. I am not dense .I am just showing how what you are writing is compleatly ridiculous. Almost in the realm of "We should postpone the draft because of the pandemic" you did not say he was terrible. You quoted idiots as if they had clout, What does that a say about you entire stance. If you want to keep doubling down on stupid. I will keep obliging. I am cool with it brother. I am so confident in what I am saying . I can't stop laughing . Couldn't name a player without looking him up. What player is that? How do you come up with this stuff? I literally can not stop laughing.
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Post by Fletch842 on Sept 24, 2021 20:01:40 GMT -5
It's not like the Giants are the only team that made that mistake. Sure would have been nice if they had Baltimore's insight. They didn't and so didn't virtually the entire NFL. And Ray Lewis was their 2nd 1st rd pick. Jonathon Ogden was their 1st pick with the 4th pick. Lewis was picked around the 25th pick. So 2/3rds of the league passed on Ray Lewis. I wanted Ogden so bad that year!! Cedric Jones was perhaps the biggest let down since I've been following the Giants drafts.
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Post by TEM on Sept 24, 2021 20:03:13 GMT -5
Yet you fail to use that same logic on the pick we acquired. I can't stop laughing Parsons plays now, that draft pick isn’t even in the league yet. All that number crunching has crunched your brain. So keep with your line of thought. GM bad he makeum I pickum into 2 pickum. He no goodum.
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Post by Kruunch on Sept 24, 2021 20:06:59 GMT -5
Damn, you’re dense. Stick to your numbers and your analytics. This is way over your head. Never, and I’ll repeat that to the fans in the back. Never, did I say it’s just a head coach and quarterback. It helps when two of three of the most important facets of an NFL organization are great. The Patriots had all three. Tom Brady, Bill Belichick, and Robert Kraft. All the Patriots had to do is fill the rest of the puzzle out. They already were already set with their cornerstones. You talk so loud for Belichicks managerial prowess. But, couldn’t name a player without looking him up. Again, for the millionth time. I, never said he was terrible. You, keep focusing on that. I would too, if I had nothing worth mentioning. I am not dense .I am just showing how what you are writing is compleatly ridiculous. Almost in the realm of "We should postpone the draft because of the pandemic" you did not say he was terrible. You quoted idiots as if they had clout, What does that a say about you entire stance. If you want to keep doubling down on stupid. I will keep obliging. I am cool with it brother. I am so confident in what I am saying . I can't stop laughing . Couldn't name a player without looking him up. What player is that? How do you come up with this stuff? I literally can not stop laughing. You bring up something over a year old for this? Should I bring up how you are adamant that Justin Tuck is a hall of famer? Should I go into all the times you brought numbers to a discussion, when words would suffice? Oh, should I bring up how you were going to open Pandora’s box when I was ridiculing you openly years back? Speaking of laughing, what is your damn point? Mine was we could of had Parsons. Instead, we got Toney and a lottery ticket. You strategically, tried to make this about Ray Lewis, Hershell Walker, Bill Belichiks GM skills. You have avoided the topic like the plague. But, you resort with “I’m laughing” Which in layman’s terms, I got nothing. Not once, did you answer the question about Toneys slow start. Instead, laughing rebuttal. Like a ******* idiot.
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Post by Kruunch on Sept 24, 2021 20:08:35 GMT -5
Parsons plays now, that draft pick isn’t even in the league yet. All that number crunching has crunched your brain. So keep with your line of thought. GM bad he makeum I pickum into 2 pickum. He no goodum. This is lame, and you know it.
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Post by TEM on Sept 24, 2021 20:12:27 GMT -5
And Ray Lewis was their 2nd 1st rd pick. Jonathon Ogden was their 1st pick with the 4th pick. Lewis was picked around the 25th pick. So 2/3rds of the league passed on Ray Lewis. I wanted Ogden so bad that year!! Cedric Jones was perhaps the biggest let down since I've been following the Giants drafts. Again why BB is a genius GM . He trades out of picks to acquire more picks. He knows the failure rates of draft prospects. He mitigates it with flooding his roster with draftees. He produced 28 picks in the past 4 drafts. 10 more than average. And his teams win.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 24, 2021 20:12:29 GMT -5
I would trade Barkley for the first 2nd round pick offered....
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Post by TEM on Sept 24, 2021 20:30:42 GMT -5
I am not dense .I am just showing how what you are writing is compleatly ridiculous. Almost in the realm of "We should postpone the draft because of the pandemic" you did not say he was terrible. You quoted idiots as if they had clout, What does that a say about you entire stance. If you want to keep doubling down on stupid. I will keep obliging. I am cool with it brother. I am so confident in what I am saying . I can't stop laughing . Couldn't name a player without looking him up. What player is that? How do you come up with this stuff? I literally can not stop laughing. You bring up something over a year old for this? Should I bring up how you are adamant that Justin Tuck is a hall of famer? Should I go into all the times you brought numbers to a discussion, when words would suffice? Oh, should I bring up how you were going to open Pandora’s box when I was ridiculing you openly years back? Speaking of laughing, what is your damn point? Mine was we could of had Parsons. Instead, we got Toney and a lottery ticket. You strategically, tried to make this about Ray Lewis, Hershell Walker, Bill Belichiks GM skills. You have avoided the topic like the plague. But, you resort with “I’m laughing” Which in layman’s terms, I got nothing. Not once, did you answer the question about Toneys slow start. Instead, laughing rebuttal. Like a ******* idiot. Funny I just posted today I did not think he was. Post 1 thegiantsboard.proboards.com/thread/9339/8-giants-contention-22-classI have already answers Toney's slow start What I said 10 days ago. thegiantsboard.proboards.com/thread/9190/tellPost 3 If you can not keep up with what I write and when I write it. Just ask I will show you, As I said I am so confident in what I an saying. I can prove it . It is not that hard for me to engage the irrational logic you produce. "Next year is irrelevent" bahahahahahah
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Post by Kruunch on Sept 24, 2021 20:39:00 GMT -5
You bring up something over a year old for this? Should I bring up how you are adamant that Justin Tuck is a hall of famer? Should I go into all the times you brought numbers to a discussion, when words would suffice? Oh, should I bring up how you were going to open Pandora’s box when I was ridiculing you openly years back? Speaking of laughing, what is your damn point? Mine was we could of had Parsons. Instead, we got Toney and a lottery ticket. You strategically, tried to make this about Ray Lewis, Hershell Walker, Bill Belichiks GM skills. You have avoided the topic like the plague. But, you resort with “I’m laughing” Which in layman’s terms, I got nothing. Not once, did you answer the question about Toneys slow start. Instead, laughing rebuttal. Like a ******* idiot. Funny I just posted today I did not think he was. Post 1 thegiantsboard.proboards.com/thread/9339/8-giants-contention-22-classI have already answers Toney's slow start What I said 10 days ago. thegiantsboard.proboards.com/thread/9190/tellPost 3 It tells me Toney was injured or on Covid all camp. He isn't up to speed yet. As I said I am so confident in what I an saying. I can prove it . It is not that hard for me to engage the irrational logic you produce. "Next year is irrelevent" bahahahahahah Keep digging in the archive. It’s there. I know how you feel, you haven’t proved a damn point in two hours.
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Post by TEM on Sept 24, 2021 20:48:06 GMT -5
Keep digging in the archive. It’s there. I know how you feel, you haven’t proved a damn point in two hours. I proved you have no short term memory. I literally posted today about Tuck, I am not sure he would get voted in. You posted in the same thread.. You could not remember that?????. Todays threads are from the archive? Where do you come up with this stuff? It is just too funny.
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Post by Kruunch on Sept 24, 2021 20:51:13 GMT -5
Keep digging in the archive. It’s there. I know how you feel, you haven’t proved a damn point in two hours. I proved you have no short term memory. I literally posted today about Tuck, I am not sure he would get vote in. You posted in the same thread.. You could not remember that?????. Todays threads are from the archive? It is just too funny. My man. You posted the same regurgitated nonsense years ago. Want to question my memory? Let’s do it, your father worked for NASA. He passed away. And you hold him like I do with my old man to the highest honor. I couldn’t look this up if I tried. I have an unbreakable memory. Now, you want to keep this going? Because, now I’m just getting started.
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Post by TEM on Sept 24, 2021 21:01:38 GMT -5
I proved you have no short term memory. I literally posted today about Tuck, I am not sure he would get vote in. You posted in the same thread.. You could not remember that?????. Todays threads are from the archive? It is just too funny. My man. You posted the same regurgitated nonsense years ago. Want to question my memory? Let’s do it, your father worked for NASA. He passed away. And you hold him like I do with my old man to the highest honor. I couldn’t look this up if I tried. I have an unbreakable memory. Now, you want to keep this going? Because, now I’m just getting started. Years ago and and my one day old thread is digging the archive. Do you read your string of contradiction? So explain why I said Tuck probably won't get in today? You can say all you want. Prove it.
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Post by Kruunch on Sept 24, 2021 21:06:08 GMT -5
My man. You posted the same regurgitated nonsense years ago. Want to question my memory? Let’s do it, your father worked for NASA. He passed away. And you hold him like I do with my old man to the highest honor. I couldn’t look this up if I tried. I have an unbreakable memory. Now, you want to keep this going? Because, now I’m just getting started. Years ago and and my one day old thread is digging the archive. Do you read your string of contradiction? So explain why I said Tuck probably won't get in today? You can say all you want. Prove it. Look who’s laughing now. Wernher von Braun thought I was talking about a thread he made just a few hours ago. Now, that is funny. You normally aren’t a fan of satire, but if someone deserves a razzy award. I would vote for you, twice. Prove what wrong? That Justin Tuck will never make it into the hall of fame. I’ll use your logic, quarterback hands the ball off, which means the player isn’t a hall of famer.
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Post by TEM on Sept 24, 2021 21:15:56 GMT -5
Years ago and and my one day old thread is digging the archive. Do you read your string of contradiction? So explain why I said Tuck probably won't get in today? You can say all you want. Prove it. Look who’s laughing now. Wernher von Braun thought I was talking about a thread he made just a few hours ago. Now, that is funny. You normally aren’t a fan of satire, but if someone deserves a razzy award. I would vote for you, twice. Prove what wrong? That Justin Tuck will never make it into the hall of fame. I’ll use your logic, quarterback hands the ball off, which means the player isn’t a hall of famer. Do you read what you write?
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Post by Kruunch on Sept 24, 2021 21:24:52 GMT -5
Look who’s laughing now. Wernher von Braun thought I was talking about a thread he made just a few hours ago. Now, that is funny. You normally aren’t a fan of satire, but if someone deserves a razzy award. I would vote for you, twice. Prove what wrong? That Justin Tuck will never make it into the hall of fame. I’ll use your logic, quarterback hands the ball off, which means the player isn’t a hall of famer. Do you read what you write? I missed the best part. I saved the best for last. “Yards handed off.” What does that mean? I want the actual meaning of that, so I can throw it away and never see it again. Well, this has been educational. Between, you and Abbott and Costello I’ve learned a valuable lesson. Don’t do drugs..
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Post by Roswell on Sept 24, 2021 21:27:31 GMT -5
I hate to break in to a spirited debate but it seems obvious that Parsons wasn’t even on their board based on his off the field stuff. Talented or not, Mara doesn’t go for that kind of player with that kind of history. And certainly not after how burned they got with DeAndre Baker.
So, talented or not, he most likely wasn’t even an option.
As far as Slater, can you honestly say you would pass on a promising offensive player and a first round pick next year from the Bears, a team starting Dalton at QB and now a promising rookie, to draft a position that you just spent a very high 1 and 3 for? Seems crazy.
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Post by Kruunch on Sept 24, 2021 21:35:08 GMT -5
I hate to break in to a spirited debate but it seems obvious that Parsons wasn’t even on their board based on his off the field stuff. Talented or not, Mara doesn’t go for that kind of player with that kind of history. And certainly not after how burned they got with DeAndre Baker. So, talented or not, he most likely wasn’t even an option. As far as Slater, can you honestly say you would pass on a promising offensive player and a first round pick next year from the Bears, a team starting Dalton at QB and now a promising rookie, to draft a position that you just spent a very high 1 and 3 for? Seems crazy. Now, this is a fair comment. Take notes boys. He brought facts to the table, he made a point how Mara shy’s away from troubled players, and mentioned the drafting of Thomas. I don’t agree with what you said, but I could very well see this as being true. Now, where was I. Oh yeah, **** that TEM guy.
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Post by TEM on Sept 24, 2021 21:35:29 GMT -5
Do you read what you write? I missed the best part. I saved the best for last. “ Yards handed off.” What does that mean? I want the actual meaning of that, so I can throw it away and never see it again. Well, this has been educational. Between, you and Abbott and Costello I’ve learned a valuable lesson. Don’t do drugs.. It means it was a joke. Does humor elude also? No the best part of this thread was you quoiting idiots as if they know what they are talking about..... But .....It could be argued that you comment "next year is irrelevent" could be made. Or is that "we missed out on Ray Lewis" I still, do not know how that is relevant to the trade in this years draft. I don't know there are just too many to choose from.
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Post by Kruunch on Sept 24, 2021 21:39:05 GMT -5
I missed the best part. I saved the best for last. “ Yards handed off.” What does that mean? I want the actual meaning of that, so I can throw it away and never see it again. Well, this has been educational. Between, you and Abbott and Costello I’ve learned a valuable lesson. Don’t do drugs.. It means it was a joke. Does humor elude also? Does humor allude me? Now, I know you’re crazy. You don’t joke, your humor is as stale as two month old bread. Now, where is Dandelion? I want to tear him up like a pit bull on a poodle.
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Post by TEM on Sept 24, 2021 21:46:23 GMT -5
It means it was a joke. Does humor elude also? Does humor allude me? Now, I know you’re crazy. You don’t joke, your humor is as stale as two month old bread. Now, where is Dandelion? I want to tear him up like a pit bull on a poodle. With this post apparently It does.
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Post by McCherry on Sept 24, 2021 21:49:50 GMT -5
I hate to break in to a spirited debate but it seems obvious that Parsons wasn’t even on their board based on his off the field stuff. Talented or not, Mara doesn’t go for that kind of player with that kind of history. And certainly not after how burned they got with DeAndre Baker. So, talented or not, he most likely wasn’t even an option. As far as Slater, can you honestly say you would pass on a promising offensive player and a first round pick next year from the Bears, a team starting Dalton at QB and now a promising rookie, to draft a position that you just spent a very high 1 and 3 for? Seems crazy. Gettleman was practically murdered here for taking Baker, and he didn't have half the red flags Parsons did. I don't believe Slater was ever an option for the Giants after taking Thomas the year before.
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Post by Kruunch on Sept 24, 2021 21:50:02 GMT -5
Does humor allude me? Now, I know you’re crazy. You don’t joke, your humor is as stale as two month old bread. Now, where is Dandelion? I want to tear him up like a pit bull on a poodle. With this post apparently It does. I tore the gloves off. It’s bare knuckle now. Something tells me to stop at the neck, I don’t listen..
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Post by Kruunch on Sept 24, 2021 21:52:40 GMT -5
I hate to break in to a spirited debate but it seems obvious that Parsons wasn’t even on their board based on his off the field stuff. Talented or not, Mara doesn’t go for that kind of player with that kind of history. And certainly not after how burned they got with DeAndre Baker. So, talented or not, he most likely wasn’t even an option. As far as Slater, can you honestly say you would pass on a promising offensive player and a first round pick next year from the Bears, a team starting Dalton at QB and now a promising rookie, to draft a position that you just spent a very high 1 and 3 for? Seems crazy. Gettleman was practically murdered here for taking Baker, and he didn't have half the red flags Parsons did. I don't believe Slater was ever an option for the Giants after taking Thomas the year before. When was he “murdered?” At the draft? Fans praised him. After his arrest? You’re damn right. Hard to get behind a GM when your player you traded up for is now a meme for life. And is now playing on another team. I don’t believe in settling for other players in part because you have drafted a left tackle already. You can never have enough good lineman.
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Post by TEM on Sept 24, 2021 21:59:53 GMT -5
With this post apparently It does. I tore the gloves off. It’s bare knuckle now. Something tells me to stop at the neck, I don’t listen.. If that is all you have left in your arsenal of no logic responses. Throw your punches. I am not going anywhere.
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Post by Kruunch on Sept 24, 2021 22:05:22 GMT -5
I tore the gloves off. It’s bare knuckle now. Something tells me to stop at the neck, I don’t listen.. If that is all you have left in your arsenal of no logic responses. Throw your punches. I am not going anywhere. You haven’t brought logic to the table since the boards asked for a username. Just because you say it, doesn’t make it true. Now, we’ve been going back and forth for enough time to cause a migraine that can take down a bull elephant. Let’s do this, you have your stance. I have mine.
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Post by TEM on Sept 24, 2021 22:11:06 GMT -5
If that is all you have left in your arsenal of no logic responses. Throw your punches. I am not going anywhere. You haven’t brought logic to the table since the boards asked for a username. Just because you say it, doesn’t make it true. Now, we’ve been going back and forth for enough time to cause a migraine that can take down a bull elephant. Let’s do this, you have your stance. I have mine. Darn it .I though I was privileged. I have not read you taking you gloves off for anyone so far. I was wanted to see what that was like.
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Post by Kruunch on Sept 24, 2021 22:12:30 GMT -5
You haven’t brought logic to the table since the boards asked for a username. Just because you say it, doesn’t make it true. Now, we’ve been going back and forth for enough time to cause a migraine that can take down a bull elephant. Let’s do this, you have your stance. I have mine. Darn it .I though I was privileged. I have not read you taking you gloves off for anyone so far. I was want to see what that was like. Next time. I promise..
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Post by jay051 on Sept 24, 2021 22:13:42 GMT -5
Keep digging in the archive. It’s there. I know how you feel, you haven’t proved a damn point in two hours. I proved you have no short term memory. I literally posted today about Tuck, I am not sure he would get voted in. You posted in the same thread.. You could not remember that?????. Todays threads are from the archive? Where do you come up with this stuff? It is just too funny. No way is Tuck getting in. He doesn't have the numbers to get in from that position and I'm a huge Tuck fan. Osi in my opinion has a better shot than Tuck and he too isn't getting in. No defensive player during Eli's era is getting into Canton.
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